Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

22-11-2015 05:56PM

ronjo wrote: »

Don't agree. He could have played both alongside and instead of Coquelin.
Rumour at time was he would have preferred Arsenal and he was the one player I really wanted.
Anyway, not much point in me bringing it up now I guess.

Problem is that Wenger would never do that. That would mean dropping one of our proven midfielders, not to mention the ones that have been trying to play into a starting midfield spot.

Of course, they're all injured now and there's plenty of room for him.

Soups123 · 22-11-2015 06:04PM

Basil3 wrote: »

No way Schneiderlin would come to Arsenal without a guarantee of playing time right before Euros.

This is wrong, going to United was no guarantee either. You don't sign for big clubs from a club like Southampton and expect a starting place.

He would have been an excellent signing and have got plenty of game time

tayto lover · 22-11-2015 06:04PM

Soups123 wrote: »

This is wrong, going to United was no guarantee either. You don't sign for big clubs from a club like Southampton and expect a starting place.

He would have been an excellent signing and have got plenty of game time

Was just about to say that.

JustTheOne · 22-11-2015 06:04PM

Just one season without an injury crisis.

So many years we could have won the league but injuries struck.

Soooo bloody frustrating.

deaddonkey15 · 22-11-2015 06:06PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Norwich (A)
Sunderland (H)
Villa (A)
City (H)
Southampton (A)
Bournemouth (H)
Newcastle (H)

There's our 7 league games til the 2nd of January. 2 CL matches in there too. Probably not gonna be fun.

Those league games aren't too bad really. The City match is obviously the stand out one but at least that's at home and they are very much beatable. Southampton away could be tricky as well. As for the rest, I think they should be easy enough for Arsenal to be honest, even with out Coquelin.

tayto lover · 22-11-2015 06:08PM

Players that should be gone next summer --
Campbell, Gibbs, Rosicky, Arteta, Flamini and Debuchy (if Jenks returns).
Not up to Arsenal standard now. I'd give Cazorla another season.

Soups123 · 22-11-2015 06:09PM

JustTheOne wrote: »

Just one season without an injury crisis.

So many years we could have won the league but injuries struck.

Soooo bloody frustrating.

It's a mixture of how we play and sticking with the same injury prone players. For the last 2/3 years you could guarantee absences each year for Gibbs, Diaby, Wilshire, Walcott, Rosicky, Arteta. That's too high a % of the 25 man squad.

It requires some balls and a bit of ruthlessness to resolve

22-11-2015 06:10PM

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Those league games aren't too bad really. The City match is obviously the stand out one but at least that's at home and they are very much beatable. Southampton away could be tricky as well. As for the rest, I think they should be easy enough for Arsenal to be honest, even with out Coquelin.

Probably would've said that if I'd posted it yesterday as well. :P

22-11-2015 06:19PM

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Probably, but Tony Pulis sides are usually tough nuts to crack.

Since 2006 before yesterday: WLWWWLWDWD|W|W

8-2-2 in league matches, 2.17ppg. It's a popular narrative but it's not accurate.

22-11-2015 06:32PM

Soups123 wrote: »

This is wrong, going to United was no guarantee either. You don't sign for big clubs from a club like Southampton and expect a starting place.

He would have been an excellent signing and have got plenty of game time

Hmmm. I looked at United's midfield, and I would have said he'd be straight in there.

He wouldn't have had plenty of playing time at Arsenal, how many matches has Coquelin missed? I would say that Wenger feels a great amount of loyalty to Coq, and would have given him every chance to try to play his way into the French side for the Euros.

It's the same reason I could never see Benzema and Giroud both playing at Arsenal. Wenger wouldn't do that to a player he's shown a lot of faith in. He's too loyal.

gosplan · 22-11-2015 06:58PM

In fairness Coq with Flamini behind for a single position isn't bad. Another WC player there would be silly.

Utd have better options there because they play with 2 DMFs.

Chelsea have Matic, then Mikel, then a CB or something.

A first team player did his knee ligaments so the backup has to function for six weeks, then the transfer market.

emergingstar · 22-11-2015 07:13PM

I think we will see more of Ramsey beside Cazorla than we will flamini

Ol' Donie · 22-11-2015 07:17PM

emergingstar wrote: »

I think we will see more of Ramsey beside Cazorla than we will flamini

So our right midfielder would cover for our injured DM, but can't because he's injured, and even if he wasn't he might have to stay at RM because his replacement there is injured.

Still, Flamini is fit. So that's good.

emergingstar · 22-11-2015 07:39PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

So our right midfielder would cover for our injured DM, but can't because he's injured, and even if he wasn't he might have to stay at RM because his replacement there is injured.

Still, Flamini is fit. So that's good.

Ramsey in the middle with ox on the right for most of the games I think

22-11-2015 07:40PM

Ramsey isn't a RM. That's just where he plays because Wenger has to play him in the starting 11.

emergingstar · 22-11-2015 07:44PM

Is carvalho still alive does anyone no

Ol' Donie · 22-11-2015 07:53PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Ramsey in the middle with ox on the right for most of the games I think

I'd be happy with that if I believed for a second both of them will be fit at the same time over the next couple of months.

greendom · 22-11-2015 07:57PM

Wonder whether Biliek will get near the 1st team squad, I think he's been playing CB with the U21 though.

emergingstar · 22-11-2015 08:03PM

greendom wrote: »

Wonder whether Biliek will get near the 1st team squad, I think he's been playing CB with the U21 though.

Yeah he has been a CB

Think we will see Ramsey/flamini there, if things get really bad ox/chambers there

So if we have to turn to belik I'd say we're well and truely screwed

22-11-2015 08:48PM

C'mon guys, why all the negativity? We haven't even pulled out The Jeff yet. Pretty sure he can play any position and be awesome at it.

symbolic · 22-11-2015 08:59PM

Basil3 wrote: »

C'mon guys, why all the negativity? We haven't even pulled out The Jeff yet. Pretty sure he can play any position and be awesome at it.

Don't you know it's not negativity, more the opinions of some of the finest footballing brains on the planet.

emmetlego · 22-11-2015 09:02PM

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Hi i am debating whether to go arsenal game on Tuesday.

All due to the terrorist attacks. I meant to take my gf but she's worried

I'm late to the party, sorry...

You are something like 3 times more likely to die from a bee sting, than you are from a terrorist attack...

Or more likely to receive a warning from a moderator for abusing United boardies here when you've had more than a few too many! (Sorry moderators!)

Soups123 · 22-11-2015 09:13PM

Basil3 wrote: »

Hmmm. I looked at United's midfield, and I would have said he'd be straight in there.

He wouldn't have had plenty of playing time at Arsenal, how many matches has Coquelin missed? I would say that Wenger feels a great amount of loyalty to Coq, and would have given him every chance to try to play his way into the French side for the Euros.

It's the same reason I could never see Benzema and Giroud both playing at Arsenal. Wenger wouldn't do that to a player he's shown a lot of faith in. He's too loyal.

He would 100% have got game time both cover and playing alongside Coq.

I think your wrong but if it was true and that Wenger would show him loyalty to get him into a French squad then that would be awful management of our club.

That said Coq 100% deserved a chance to stake a claim for first choice DM and he has deserved it and held it well, the problem is Flamini and Arteta should have been improved upon.

I don't mind people have different opinions or positivity levels than me so maybe try less of the Hmmms and riiiights and just converse

Ken Shamrock · 22-11-2015 09:19PM

I didn't post after we lost...does that mean I don't like the team? :pac:

I thought It was another poor performance that once again brought to light the problems with our squad and the severe lack of depth once again. Many people on here laughed at buying another DM because we had Arteta and Flamini...

It's all same old Arsenal so I'm not even too fussed, all I can do Is wait and see how things go with my fingers crossed

symbolic · 22-11-2015 09:24PM

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

all I can do Is wait and see how things go with my fingers crossed

Often the case when you're not directly involved with something. Frustrating.

22-11-2015 09:26PM

Soups123 wrote: »

He would 100% have got game time both cover and playing alongside Coq.

I think your wrong but if it was true and that Wenger would show him loyalty to get him into a French squad then that would be awful management of our club.

That said Coq 100% deserved a chance to stake a claim for first choice DM and he has deserved it and held it well, the problem is Flamini and Arteta should have been improved upon.

I don't mind people have different opinions or positivity levels than me so maybe try less of the Hmmms and riiiights and just converse

In near on 2k posts i've said riiiight once, and hmmmm another time. There was definitely no offence meant by me saying hmmmm, but thanks for the advice, all the same.

Wenger has already had two players from the same country competing for the same spot in a national side, and maybe that was part of his decision making process when considering Schneiderlin. I'm sure it's not the only factor, but I'm sure it was one consideration.

Soups123 · 22-11-2015 09:59PM

Basil3 wrote: »

In near on 2k posts i've said riiiight once, and hmmmm another time. There was definitely no offence meant by me saying hmmmm, but thanks for the advice, all the same.

Wenger has already had two players from the same country competing for the same spot in a national side, and maybe that was part of his decision making process when considering Schneiderlin. I'm sure it's not the only factor, but I'm sure it was one consideration.

That's fair enough but both were aimed at me and both in the last 24hrs.

It is a possible consideration and would make sense but he should then have came up with another plan. Arteta who we know has an injury that prevents him being capable of a run of games and Flamini who really is a third choice level player was never a strong enough plan

23-11-2015 09:20AM

gosplan wrote: »

In fairness Coq with Flamini behind for a single position isn't bad. Another WC player there would be silly.

"Another" world class player?

Quazzie · 23-11-2015 09:28AM

Deleted User wrote: »

"Another" world class player?

Do you not think Coquelin has been world class in his role, in the games he has played for us?

23-11-2015 09:34AM

Quazzie wrote: »

Do you not think Coquelin has been world class in his role, in the games he has played for us?

He has played pretty damn well but could easily turn out to be a flash in the pan.

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

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