Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

emergingstar · 21-11-2015 06:21PM

Liverpool winning is a good result

greendom · 21-11-2015 06:24PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Liverpool winning is a good result

city looking a shambles in defence is good too!

21-11-2015 06:25PM

tayto lover wrote: »

I think Wenger fcuked up today once again.
Why select Gibbs, he's useless. In fairness Campbell wasn't much better when introduced.
But my main gripe is why he chose to put Arteta on when Coq was injured.
Surely Flamini has had more game time recently and was a better bet to replace Coq. Arteta cost us at least one goal plus another substitution.
Flamini was the obvious choice to replace Coq.

Yeah, strange choices. Maybe he has one eye on Tuesday, I dunno. Can't imagine it's because he's holding back the likes of Campbell and Flamini for that match.

I really don't get the grief Gibbs get. He offers as much as Campbell going forward, more going back.....and he doesn't run like his legs are made of wood. Something pretty important for a footballer, imo.

21-11-2015 06:28PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Liverpool winning is a good result

Puts them 6 behind us.

21-11-2015 06:31PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Puts them 6 behind us.

Better then City 3 clear of us. Its a lifeline. Luckily for us there is no stand out team this season so as shíte as todays performance was we can still believe.

emergingstar · 21-11-2015 06:38PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Better then City 3 clear of us. Its a lifeline. Luckily for us there is no stand out team this season so as shíte as todays performance was we can still believe.

My point exactly

First team to put a run together will win this league it's wide open and void of real top quality

21-11-2015 06:41PM

Arseblog sum it up well for Arteta:

The lightning rod: never a foul for the first, unlucky to be on hand (literally) to deflect a cross that should never have been allowed to come in, but injured again though, and that's happening too often now.

21-11-2015 06:43PM

First defeat in gold today

The invincible shirt is no more

:pac:

tayto lover · 21-11-2015 06:54PM

Basil3 wrote: »

Yeah, strange choices. Maybe he has one eye on Tuesday, I dunno. Can't imagine it's because he's holding back the likes of Campbell and Flamini for that match.

I really don't get the grief Gibbs get. He offers as much as Campbell going forward, more going back.....and he doesn't run like his legs are made of wood. Something pretty important for a footballer, imo.

Gibbs is on the panel since 2007 and has proven time and time again to be quite useless imo. He offers absolutely nothing and is afraid of his own shadow.

Ol' Donie · 21-11-2015 06:56PM

I'd be of the opinion that Gibbs, Arteta and Campbell are weak links. Don't like saying it, but they are.

21-11-2015 07:12PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

I'd be of the opinion that Gibbs, Arteta and Campbell are weak links. Don't like saying it, but they are.

Gibbs might be a good sub as he proved against Spurs but as a starter he offers nothing. Arteta's day was done quite some time ago. The emergence of Coquelin has more or less proved his. Campbell just isn't good enough.

We need Rambo, Jack, Welbeck, Coquelin back soon as possible.

csallmighty · 21-11-2015 07:17PM

Fair play to Leicester, top of the league for a week at least.

TimeToShine · 21-11-2015 07:22PM

Gibbs and Campbell are just so, so far behind the rest of our midfield. I hate seeing them in our starting XI. Campbell especially for me just won't do if we want to win the league. To think he's pretty much the same age as Hazard/Coutinho/KDB says it all. I just don't buy the idea of him turning to gold all of a sudden.

In fairness to Wenger he didn't start Arteta and we can't blame him for Coq getting injured/Cazorla missing the penalty. This loss was down to the players.

21-11-2015 07:31PM

TimeToShine wrote: »

Gibbs and Campbell are just so, so far behind the rest of our midfield. I hate seeing them in our starting XI. Campbell especially for me just won't do if we want to win the league. To think he's pretty much the same age as Hazard/Coutinho/KDB says it all. I just don't buy the idea of him turning to gold all of a sudden.

In fairness to Wenger he didn't start Arteta and we can't blame him for Coq getting injured/Cazorla missing the penalty. This loss was down to the players.

Gibbs is our backup LB? There was a long period where Monreal was rubbish and people weren't complaining about Gibbs. Now Monreal has been awesome and everyone wants to hate on Gibbs. I'm not even a huge fan of his, but I don't see why he gets all the grief, especially today when he was forced to play in the position he was.

Campbell to me is just a nondescript squad player. Can plug a hole and that's about it. Injuries are the only reason he's around, but I can see the likes of The Jeff, Iwobi, and some of the other youngsters jumping him in the not-too-distant future.

tayto lover · 21-11-2015 07:35PM

Basil3 wrote: »

Gibbs is our backup LB? There was a long period where Monreal was rubbish and people weren't complaining about Gibbs. Now Monreal has been awesome and everyone wants to hate on Gibbs. I'm not even a huge fan of his, but I don't see why he gets all the grief, especially today when he was forced to play in the position he was.

Campbell to me is just a nondescript squad player. Can plug a hole and that's about it. Injuries are the only reason he's around, but I can see the likes of The Jeff, Iwobi, and some of the other youngsters jumping him in the not-too-distant future.

Monrael improved, Gibbs didn't.

21-11-2015 07:37PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Monrael improved, Gibbs didn't.

My point is that nobody was complaining about Gibbs when he was ahead of Monreal. Everyone was complaining about Monreal. Now that Monreal has been playing well, all of a sudden Gibbs is absolute muck?

To make a point, Bellerin didn't play well today, but if Gibbs had played like him, we wouldn't hear the end of it.

tayto lover · 21-11-2015 07:39PM

Basil3 wrote: »

My point is that nobody was complaining about Gibbs when he was ahead of Monreal. Everyone was complaining about Monreal. Now that Monreal has been playing well, all of a sudden Gibbs is absolute muck?

I was. I never rated him. Plus he's cowardly and ducks out of tackles, headers etc and can't cross to save his life. No time for that kind of player.

JustTheOne · 21-11-2015 07:43PM

So much for this new fitness coach making no outfield signing of a player in the summer ok.

tayto lover · 21-11-2015 07:44PM

JustTheOne wrote: »

So much for this new fitness coach making no outfield signing of a player in the summer ok.

Shad's injured.

KaiserGunner · 21-11-2015 08:55PM

emergingstar wrote: »

We need them players too

I wanted a DM in summer but I thought arteta and flamini could do job if needed, Wenger obivoulsy thought so too

We now no they can't so it must be addressed in January and if it's not Wenger is playing with fire

I thought it was painfully obvious that we needed a player to compete/provide cover for Coquelin. Arteta and Flamini are nowhere near good enough and we knew that in the summer. Is complete negligence by Wenger not to have got somebody in with money just lying there in the bank.

It was the same last season when he only had 3 centre backs which cost us in the first half of the season and then brought in Gabriel when the damage (league challenge over) was already done. Let's hope the same mistake won't cost us again. Wenger was already playing with fire, Arteta and Flamini, Cleary not good enough anymore.

gosplan · 21-11-2015 09:12PM

Wow, Arteta comes off the bench and we concede 2 goals to 1 shot on target.

He simply cannot play.

tayto lover · 21-11-2015 09:17PM

Any word on Coq?

gosplan · 21-11-2015 09:36PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Any word on Coq?

Worse injury than Arteta. I'm guessing knee ligaments.

I actually think Flamini can do a job for the next few games though.

We need the others back. Ramsey, Wilshire, Walcott etc.

It's not there yet but this is turning into every other season.

We need to buck the trend by putting in consistent results and getting some players back.

tayto lover · 21-11-2015 09:46PM

gosplan wrote: »

Worse injury than Arteta. I'm guessing knee ligaments.

I actually think Flamini can do a job for the next few games though.

We need the others back. Ramsey, Wilshire, Walcott etc.

It's not there yet but this is turning into every other season.

We need to buck the trend by putting in consistent results and getting some players back.

Wenger now has a big decision to make in January.
He will have to pay more than he would have last summer too if we're to continue our challenge.
Let's hope he realises his mistake now and has the balls to fix it.
An injury to Flamini now and we're in very serious trouble.

Ol' Donie · 21-11-2015 09:47PM

I can't believe how much damage these injuries are doing. I know we always ALWAYS have this, but this year we have, if fully fit, the best team in the league. It's there for the taking. It's so frustrating.

Talk of buying more players for the squad (while fair enough, let's not get into it), is all well and good, but we're talking about getting a top quality third or fourth choice right mid. It's mental.

tayto lover · 21-11-2015 09:54PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

I can't believe how much damage these injuries are doing. I know we always ALWAYS have this, but this year we have, if fully fit, the best team in the league. It's there for the taking. It's so frustrating.

Talk of buying more players for the squad (while fair enough, let's not get into it), is all well and good, but we're talking about getting a top quality third or fourth choice right mid. It's mental.

I'm talking about getting a very good DM as back-up and competition for Coquelin.
Flamini and Arteta are on their last legs and have been for some time now.
It should have been done in the summer and most of us knew this.

21-11-2015 10:13PM

tayto lover wrote: »

I'm talking about getting a very good DM as back-up and competition for Coquelin.
Flamini and Arteta are on their last legs and have been for some time now.
It should have been done in the summer and most of us knew this.

Yep, but unfortunately for a 'very good' DM who is on a level that can compete with Le Coq, you're looking at £20-25m for someone who sits on the bench, ruling out anyone who has their eye on Euros. I'm sure there are players out there, but I would say options are pretty limited.

I still think the need for an amazing DM is overrated. Coquelin is great, but really it's just a position which requires discipline. Flamini could be perfectly adequate if he didn't go walkabout.

tayto lover · 21-11-2015 10:34PM

Basil3 wrote: »

Yep, but unfortunately for a 'very good' DM who is on a level that can compete with Le Coq, you're looking at £20-25m for someone who sits on the bench, ruling out anyone who has their eye on Euros. I'm sure there are players out there, but I would say options are pretty limited.

I still think the need for an amazing DM is overrated. Coquelin is great, but really it's just a position which requires discipline. Flamini could be perfectly adequate if he didn't go walkabout.

Flamini should have been on instead of Arteta today too when Coq was injured.
Can't understand the thinking behind that substitution at all.

21-11-2015 10:44PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Flamini should have been on instead of Arteta today too when Coq was injured.
Can't understand the thinking behind that substitution at all.

Really makes you wonder what goes on behind the scenes. Must be hard when your club captain is nowhere near the starting 11.

wandatowell · 21-11-2015 10:57PM

Campbell should have been taken out the back and shot.

He's so raw.

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