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Shootings in Paris - MOD NOTE UPDATED - READ OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭tastyt


    **** these animals and **** any PC bleeding heart talking about how young Muslims feel disenfranchised and disillusioned in Europe.

    **** blaming the west for innocent kids going to a concert being murdered in cold blood.

    **** letting unidentified refugees into our countries to spread their evil and twisted " idealogy ".

    These people can't be reasoned with or dealt with politically. They are scum , pure and simple. Close the borders, send them all home. Yes its unfortunate for the innocent ones but tough ****, your scum brothers have made it that way.

    Time for Europe to stop tip toeing around murderers and protect our own people first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    acb121 wrote: »
    Muslims have been engaged in murderous rampages since the 620s.

    Why might they stop now ?

    Oh would you stop.

    Fulcher of Chartes wrote an eye witness account of the Crusader attack on Jerusalem in 1099
    Count Raymond and his men, who were attacking the wall on the other side, did not yet know of all this, until they saw the Saracens leap from the wall in front of them. Forthwith, they joyfully rushed into the city to pursue and kill the nefarious enemies, as their comrades were already doing. Some Saracens, Arabs, and Ethiopians took refuge in the tower of David, others fled to the temples of the Lord and of Solomon. A great fight took place in the court and porch of the temples, where they were unable to escape from our gladiators. Many fled to the roof of the temple of Solomon, and were shot with arrows, so that they fell to the ground dead. In this temple almost ten thousand were killed. Indeed, if you had been there you would have seen our feet colored to our ankles with the blood of the slain. But what more shall I relate? None of them were left alive; neither women nor children were spared.

    Stop acting like Christian Europeans didn't rampage around the globe massacring millions.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 436 ✭✭Old Jakey


    martyos121 wrote: »
    There is some serious shîte being spouted here tonight. Do not disrespect one religion based on what a select group of people did. The vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists and I won't stand for people disrespecting Muslims when they too are against ISIS and terrorist organisations.

    Grow the fcuk up be tolerant of other faiths!

    Fuck Islam. Tell me why I should respect this backward religion that hates me and my way of life?

    Mod: banned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    kleefarr wrote: »
    May be it all happened because, as some reports have shown, it's too cold in Europe and the internet is slow.

    Eh what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Well done to the ermgency services tonight. Im sure they prevented countless more lives being lost despite the already high death toll. As many as a dozen highly armed terrorists attacked random locations without warning in a densely populated urban area so the emergency response teams did the best they could.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭topmanamillion


    acb121 wrote: »
    Have you ever read about the history of Islam.

    Mohammed and his followers began his campaign of rape, murder, racism, banditry, religous persecution and so on in about 628.

    As far as I known, the United States was not formed until 1000 years later.

    Have you ever read about the crusades?
    Or the Christian Pilgrims treatment of the native Americans?
    Or European Christians treatment of aboriginals?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭Negative_G


    martyos121 wrote: »
    They don't have to respect any religion, but everyone is obligated not to disrespect any either and be tolerant of others and their beliefs. It isn't rocket science, people are taught this at a very young age.

    People have no right to disrespect Muslims based on what happened. The vast, vast majority of them are as outraged as us of this atrocity, and are embarrassed of being labelled as terrorists.

    Since you chose to ignore my question I'll ask it again.

    If a christian/Jew/ANother chooses to live in a predominantly Muslim country are they allowed to openly practice their faith and demand and receive the respect of the native population?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Do we have the means of dealing with an attack of this magnitude though?

    See my edited post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    I am tolerant of no faiths.

    Which is an intolerance all of its own. Well done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    And what century did that carry on?

    I don't see how that's relevant, but since you ask, the last Magdalene Laundry didn't close until 1996, and people who abused children in this country are still alive and have gone unpunished all these years.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭buried


    particularly on point tonight though.

    :confused: Why? Violence isn't bringing anything to Frances's table tonight but utter horror and brutality

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,247 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Picking and choosing is all your doing,
    What did I pick?
    What did I chose?
    please provide my quoted post
    the bible is the holy book of Christianity
    The new testament is, the teachings of Christ & his followers, its pretty simple.... the old stuff is left for the Jews, it never makes it to mass.
    your a hypocrit by choosing to believe some and not the rest
    Before you look too much like a gobsh*te, I'll advise you that I'm an atheist.

    However, while you & Gatling assert that all religious texts can affirm its followers to kill.... I simply ask for proof for those who follow Jesus Christ & not have their faith defamed in such a way.
    when the church teach to believe it all
    No they dont.

    You may have never been to an RC mass, but most of us probably have been to one or two.

    It may be a shock to notice that all of its scripture sourced contents are that from the New Testament... all readings, all letters.
    ergo, the teachings of Christ & the writings of his followers.

    So again.... please quote something from the teachings of Christ (the guy who founded the whole shebang), that can be interpreted as a call to murder?


    thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    Which is an intolerance all of its own. Well done.
    I don't pretend to be tolerant of anything. Not like the fakey fake lefty brigade.

    hashtag weloveallmoslems


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Paramedics at the concert hall say 118 dead is a conservative estimate and likely to rise further. Terrorists threw grenades at the hostages as police stormed the hall.


  • Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This is an incredibly scary situation........it feels so proximal to us. My deepest condolences to all. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 300 ✭✭Isaiah


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Picking and choosing is all your doing, the bible is the holy book of Christianity and preaches some pretty awful ****, your a hypocrit by choosing to believe some and not the rest

    What's awful? There is no examples of something Jesus said that was not about peace, love, mercy, sharing etc.

    Jews follow the old testament not Christians.

    Anyway forget it. Don't want to derail the thread but had to respond.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Well done to the ermgency services tonight.
    The emergency services sure.
    The intelligence services are going to have questions to answer. This was a planned coordinated set of attacks that presumably should have been on their radar, not a once off single attack by some loner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭alwald


    One hour of terror in Paris is enough to understand why families jump on boats to escape their country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Eoin247


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Oh would you stop.

    Fulcher of Chartes wrote an eye witness account of the Crusader attack on Jerusalem in 1099



    Stop acting like Christian Europeans didn't rampage around the globe massacring millions.

    You see, Christians and most of the world actually progressed out of that medieval mindset.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Packrat


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Oh would you stop.

    Fulcher of Chartes wrote an eye witness account of the Crusader attack on Jerusalem in 1099



    Stop acting like Christian Europeans didn't rampage around the globe massacring millions.

    Whataboutery. Poor effort at it even. That was then. This is now. The rest of the world doesn't do that these days. Just Muslims.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Listening to eye witness reports now

    How the fcuk did we ever become so defenceless after everything we went through in the last century?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Which is an intolerance all of its own. Well done.

    You don't have to like everything though, do you ?

    I have no problem if people want to believe in some man in the sky, but I do despise organised religion as it feeds on the weak and is only in it for profit.

    If that makes me intolerant, so be it.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Well done to the ermgency services tonight. Im sure they prevented countless more lives being lost despite the already high death toll. As many as a dozen highly armed terrorists attacked random locations without warning in a densely populated urban area so the emergency response teams did the best they could.

    JUst being reported that off duty medical staff are voluntarily coming in to help treat the injured.

    Citizens of Paris doing themselves proud tonight, between households offering shelter, taxi drivers not charging, and now medics volunteering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Eh what?

    Exactly what I said to myself when I heard it. Shortly followed by an exclamation of "well fark off back to where you came from then!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭Sever Tomorrow


    Sky News saying a former writer with Charlie Hebdo who lived to see the aftermath of that murder spree in emergency treatment as a result of this. How horrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,100 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    A bit of Twitter news regarding #ParisAttacks

    The BBC is reporting this bit of positive news tonight saying that there are some dozens people above The Bataclan while fleeing from the gunmen.

    https://twitter.com/dngbbc/status/665334901466640384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

    Alexis Tsipras has sent in this tweet in solidarity with the people of France.

    https://twitter.com/tsipras_eu/status/665312563744276480

    Daniel Bauers sent in this great tweet about Twitter itself.

    https://twitter.com/Bauers_prodigy/status/665298221321834496

    And Cormac Flynn sent in this lovely tweet from his mother.

    https://twitter.com/cormacflynn/status/665336713644896256

    There is a small bit of hope in this world tonight and thank god for that. We will need it after a night like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,201 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    martyos121 wrote: »
    They don't have to respect any religion, but everyone is obligated not to disrespect any either

    Does this extend to all sets of ideas or just religious ones? Am I obligated to not disrespect the ideas of those who see mass privatisation & scrapping of regulations as being a solution to all economic ills? Am I obligated to not disrespect the ideas of those who reject the notion of manmade climate change & want to continue polluting the planet without limitation? How about people who call for mass control, surveilance & censorship of the internet? Can I disrespect their ideas? Please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    I don't pretend to be tolerant of anything. Not like the fakey fake lefty brigade.

    hashtag weloveallmoslems

    *cringe* Sure God love ye. :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭daRobot


    Tragic night

    You'd think the only way to stop this happening is to find and kill them, I doubt reeducation is an option. Eliminate them before they become more competent, bombs inside that stadium could been catastrophic.

    Just isn't possible.

    ISIS has amassed about $2 Billion through its activities and a ton of that is going into marketing/propaganda.

    And they're good at it too. There's no shortage of recruits.

    It truly is a frigtening situation as you're dealing with random gurellia warfare, and that's almost impossible to stop.


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