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200hrs community service for 1/5 of a gram of Pot

  • 13-11-2015 12:45PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,022 ✭✭✭✭


    I'd expect this in Saudi Arabia but Nass you got to be kidding me..

    A mother of one was today ordered to carry out 200 hours of community service after she was convicted of having €10 worth of cannabis.

    Naas District Court heard the defendant was a very good parent who was embarrassed to be in court.

    Judge Desmond Zaidan said he will apply the Probation Act if the defendant successfully completes 200 hours of community service.

    http://www.kildarenow.com/news/single-mum-27-caught-with-e10-of-cannabis/56545

    What a complete waste of Court, Garda, Judges, Community workers time not to mention the emotional strain on the poor girl and her family. Now expected to leave her kid for 200hrs.
    This case is an embarresment to the Gardaì and our entire legal system.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Mena


    Don't do the crime comes to mind. Don't like it, get the law changed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭gouche


    Mena wrote: »
    Don't do the crime comes to mind. Don't like it, get the law changed.

    €10 worth?
    There are people getting caught with a lot more and getting off more lightly.
    In my youth I was caught with about 7 or 8 pills and got nothing but a day in court.
    Complete waste of time and resources.
    Hopefully Aodhan O Riordain's plans will come to fruition and we can stop criminalising people for possessing small amounts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Can't handle the time, don't do the crime....simple as that imo.

    If you break the law you must accept the consequences, she has only herself to blame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    I'd expect this in Saudi Arabia but Nass you got to be kidding me..

    A mother of one was today ordered to carry out 200 hours of community service after she was convicted of having €10 worth of cannabis.

    Naas District Court heard the defendant was a very good parent who was embarrassed to be in court.

    Judge Desmond Zaidan said he will apply the Probation Act if the defendant successfully completes 200 hours of community service.

    http://www.kildarenow.com/news/single-mum-27-caught-with-e10-of-cannabis/56545

    What a complete waste of Court, Garda, Judges, Community workers time not to mention the emotional strain on the poor girl and her family. Now expected to leave her kid for 200hrs.
    This case is an embarresment to the Gardaì and our entire legal system.


    My heart bleeds. What has the fact that the woman is a parent got to do with anything? It's relevant when it comes to sentencing, but ignored when it's pointed out why she was in the dock in the first place?

    It's 200 hours community service, hardly banged up abroad. Chill OP :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    Paul Blart style Garda must have charged her!!

    €10 **** me give that man a bonus the drugs are off the streets.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,445 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    I'd expect this in Saudi Arabia
    Is this going to be the new 'Godwin'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    gouche wrote: »
    €10 worth?
    There are people getting caught with a lot more and getting off more lightly.
    In my youth I was caught with about 7 or 8 pills and got nothing but a day in court.
    Complete waste of time and resources.
    Hopefully Aodhan O Riordain's plans will come to fruition and we can stop criminalising people for possessing small amounts.


    You're correct, and would that suggest to you that there's more to that story than is being reported in the media?

    Because that's exactly what it suggests to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Good to see the judiciary with their finger on the pulse. Good use of resources all round.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,531 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    200 hours is a bit harsh. Jesus.
    Thats 5 weeks working full time at a job. Insane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭gouche


    You're correct, and would that suggest to you that there's more to that story than is being reported in the media?

    Because that's exactly what it suggests to me.

    Quite possibly but I'm going off the story as told by the OP.
    And in my eyes getting 200hrs of community service for a ten-spot is ridiculous.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Superhorse


    Pablo Escobar see ain't. Silly stuff and a waste of everyone's time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    €50 a gram? Fucck off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    That is pretty excessive for 1/5th of smoke. Maybe she's had previous encounters with the cops / judge to warrant the 200 hours?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,022 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    That is pretty excessive for 1/5th of smoke. Maybe she's had previous encounters with the cops / judge to warrant the 200 hours?

    He's a leabinese judge working in Ireland, he's considered the closest thing we have to Judge Judy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    gouche wrote: »
    Quite possibly but I'm going off the story as told by the OP.
    And in my eyes getting 200hrs of community service for a ten-spot is ridiculous.


    On just the sentence alone itself, I'm inclined to think it's quite likely to put her off appearing in the dock again given that she was embarrassed by the fact that she got caught with, well, what is admittedly a very small amount of drugs.

    It might just make her take her responsibilities as a parent more seriously, given that the paper, and the OP, makes quite a point of the fact that she is also a parent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    200 hours is a bit harsh. Jesus.
    Thats 5 weeks working full time at a job. Insane.

    She must have time to do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    endacl wrote: »
    Is this going to be the new 'Godwin'?

    No, Irish Water took that title.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭asherbassad


    Can't handle the time, don't do the crime....simple as that imo.

    If you break the law you must accept the consequences, she has only herself to blame.

    What a load of medieval, reactionary bollocks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭crazygeryy


    she ll be very slow to do it again.
    job done.
    and her poor children and family my arse,does she think of the children when shes stoned off her knockers?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    crazygeryy wrote: »
    she ll be very slow to do it again.
    job done.
    and her poor children and family my arse,does she think of the children when shes stoned off her knockers?

    Only took two pages before someone made an assumption on her parenting, bravo!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Superhorse


    On just the sentence alone itself, I'm inclined to think it's quite likely to put her off appearing in the dock again given that she was embarrassed by the fact that she got caught with, well, what is admittedly a very small amount of drugs.

    It might just make her take her responsibilities as a parent more seriously, given that the paper, and the OP, makes quite a point of the fact that she is also a parent.

    Haha. Yeah the odd joint makes you a bad parent as opposed to getting twisted down the pub once a week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    What will the cops get charged with for pretending a 1/5 of a gram costs a tenner? Would it have been too embarrassing to bring her to court of three quids worth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    major bill wrote: »
    Only took two pages before someone made an assumption on her parenting, bravo!!

    In fairness anyone who brings a good mother argument into court is asking for it. I'm not saying she is not but I would like to know what "good mother" actually describes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭henryporter


    Not hard to see the ones who haven't smoked a joint in this thread :pac:. Getting stoned and quality of parenting aren't mutually exclusive. A lot of parent out there not getting stoned who don't have much by way of good parenting skills either.

    Anyhow irregardless of this rather silly sentencing it might be better to promote this chap up to the High Court or beyond so that he could hand out some proper sentences to the scrotes who aren't getting them at the moment?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    On just the sentence alone itself, I'm inclined to think it's quite likely to put her off appearing in the dock again given that she was embarrassed by the fact that she got caught with, well, what is admittedly a very small amount of drugs.

    It might just make her take her responsibilities as a parent more seriously, given that the paper, and the OP, makes quite a point of the fact that she is also a parent.

    Stupid sentence. Completely out of touch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Superhorse wrote: »
    Haha. Yeah the odd joint makes you a bad parent as opposed to getting twisted down the pub once a week.


    I never made any judgement of her parenting skills. I don't see how the fact she is a parent is relevant at all, but if the media, and the OP, are going to make a point of the fact that this woman is a parent, then yes, I will question whether she thought risking getting caught with a ten spot seems like a good idea in hindsight.

    Clearly, it isn't.

    I'm not sure what anyone getting twisted down the pub has to do with this story? It's completely irrelevant actually, nothing more than a ridiculous effort to try and wedge in a strawman.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭asherbassad


    On just the sentence alone itself, I'm inclined to think it's quite likely to put her off appearing in the dock again given that she was embarrassed by the fact that she got caught with, well, what is admittedly a very small amount of drugs.

    It might just make her take her responsibilities as a parent more seriously, given that the paper, and the OP, makes quite a point of the fact that she is also a parent.


    Her responsibilities as a parent.

    Do you know something about her parenting skills that the rest of us don't?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Legalise marihuana and be done with it. Tax the bloody thing and take the profits out of the hands of criminals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Peist2007 wrote: »
    Stupid sentence. Completely out of touch.


    What's actually stupid, is getting caught with drugs.

    What's stupid about the sentence? It's 200 hours community service, not a custodial sentence, she was back with her child an hour later, and is unlikely to want to appear in the dock again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,413 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    I'd be appealing that.


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