Web Summit quits Dublin

mzungu · 08-11-2015 12:57PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

So was there a press release in relation to the LLS no show ?

Nothing that has been released to the public anyway AFAIK. It was RTE who announced he pulled out. WS have been silent on it.

copacetic wrote: »

Paddy has a lot to answer for, first he make this government look reasonable and level headed, then he manages to make Brendan O'Connor of FF come out with a relativity sensible article. That's impressive levels of BS to make the other two seem OK by comparison.

I'd say the government were only too happy to have this dominate the news this week. More scandals in the HSE and PC pops along and manages to deflect a lot of attention away from it. The FG spin doctors didn't even have to try this time, all the work was done for them.

gandalf · 08-11-2015 02:06PM

Ffs I can't believe this has made me agree with Brendan O'Connor!

Seth Brundle · 08-11-2015 02:34PM

gandalf wrote: »

Ffs I can't believe this has made me agree with Brendan O'Connor!

I know, me too. I feel dirty

Tarzana2 · 08-11-2015 03:21PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

Paddy is from Wicklow and went to Glenstal Abbey so nothing to do with D4.

You don't have to be from D4 to act like a D4 stereotype. It's a state of mind.

Though I'm not sure it's accurate to describe PC.

RedemptionZ · 08-11-2015 03:47PM

Tarzana2 wrote: »

You don't have to be from D4 to act like a D4 stereotype. It's a state of mind. Though I'm not sure it's accurate to describe PC.

What exactly has he done to be a D4 stereotype? He has a posh accent but that's about it.

I'm glad to see the back of him, but that's because of the childish way he's reacted to the government not giving into his demands, not because he's snobby, or whatever else a D4 'state of mind' is.

Fleawuss · 08-11-2015 04:16PM

O'Connor is probably pissed off because WS made the govt look good.

Colonialboy · 08-11-2015 06:13PM

first farmgate , and claims Paddy Cosgrove is a tech genius ,
and now theres claims Brendan O'connor had written a decent article... christ things are worse than i thought .

For Forks Sake · 08-11-2015 10:58PM

Colonialboy wrote: »

first farmgate , and claims Paddy Cosgrove is a tech genius ,
and now theres claims Brendan O'connor had written a decent article... christ things are worse than i thought .

I think these may be signs the apocalypse is nigh,

micromary · 08-11-2015 11:06PM

Good riddance to Web Summit. It brings in all these guy like Rio Ferdinand and that guy who wrote the Di Vinci Code at the ordinary punters cost. I remember 2 years ago I had my own business and had to go for a interview with this bunch of tossers. In the end I gave them my opinion of the whole thing. They then started to advise me what good value the €600 + tickets are. e What??????????? To hear for the most part a load of crap from people who have nothing better to do. Glad Cosgrove and his Summit have gone. Feel sorry for Lisbon though.

awec · 08-11-2015 11:13PM

The price of the tickets is fairly standard for that sort of conference. Most tech conferences (even though the Web Summit isn't really a tech conference) would be more expensive than that.

And of course it brings over Rio Ferdinand etc at the punters cost. That's what the ticket is for. Do you expect the speakers to pay for themselves to come over and give a talk?

The WS deserves a lot of criticism but you can hardly moan about the speakers being paid for by those attending.

flouncer · 08-11-2015 11:16PM

whiskeyman wrote: »

hookers and coke dealers will be hit hard...

What an excellent assessment of the web summit ☺

ZeroThreat · 08-11-2015 11:56PM

RedemptionZ wrote: »

What exactly has he done to be a D4 stereotype? He has a posh accent but that's about it.

I'm glad to see the back of him, but that's because of the childish way he's reacted to the government not giving into his demands, not because he's snobby, or whatever else a D4 'state of mind' is.

How did someone who grew up on a farm in Wicklow get a posh accent, or is it put on?

He already has an unruly head of hair, really he should be going round saying 'well Holy God!' all the time for the Wicklow farming stereotype

RedemptionZ · 09-11-2015 02:57AM

ZeroThreat wrote: »

How did someone who grew up on a farm in Wicklow get a posh accent, or is it put on?

I've had three accents in my life from living in different places for a few years. I didn't make an effort to change the accent, it's just something that gradually happens to a lot of people. I don't know what age he is but if he's lived in Dublin for a few years, which I would assume he has it's very possible he picked it up naturally. There's hundreds of thousands of people with what would be considered a 'posh' accent, it's not like it's exclusive to Dublin 4.

Again just to clarify, the guy sounds like he's a greedy unethical businessman that exploits startups, let's knock him down for that! Not that he speaks with a posh accent.

09-11-2015 06:21AM

micromary wrote: »

Good riddance to Web Summit. It brings in all these guy like Rio Ferdinand and that guy who wrote the Di Vinci Code at the ordinary punters cost. I remember 2 years ago I had my own business and had to go for a interview with this bunch of tossers. In the end I gave them my opinion of the whole thing. They then started to advise me what good value the €600 + tickets are. e What??????????? To hear for the most part a load of crap from people who have nothing better to do. Glad Cosgrove and his Summit have gone. Feel sorry for Lisbon though.

What exactly do you mean by "I had to go for an interview with this bunch of tossers?" And what opinion did you give them?

Sounds like the rant of someone with a failed start up/business. Or more likely someone who really doesn't know what they're talking about.

Red_Wake · 09-11-2015 12:01PM

awec wrote: »

The price of the tickets is fairly standard for that sort of conference. Most tech conferences (even though the Web Summit isn't really a tech conference) would be more expensive than that.

And of course it brings over Rio Ferdinand etc at the punters cost. That's what the ticket is for. Do you expect the speakers to pay for themselves to come over and give a talk?

The WS deserves a lot of criticism but you can hardly moan about the speakers being paid for by those attending.

Haven't several celebrities (Panti Bliss,etc) come out and said they were asked to speak at the WS free of charge?

I'd wonder how many of them are actually paid.

smash · 09-11-2015 12:38PM

Crimsonforce wrote: »

Ken early was "hired" to interview a high ranking guest on their web strategy. He was interviewing Ian Eyre, the MD of Liverpool football club.

So ken was tasked with doing all the things you need to do for an interview, questions, facts, figures and running the interview in front of 1000s who paid in...

He was paid ZERO to do this. so web summit was trying to hire professional people who are skilled in their discipline and pay them nothing, not even a lunch..

Most speakers aren't paid, they're just given the whole "It'll be great publicity for you/your company" talk. WS doesn't even pay for flights or accommodation for a lot of speakers who come from abroad. And those who come of their own accord without the backing of the companies they work for have to pay for it all them selves, and use up their holidays.

But sure it's great publicity for them when they get an extra 50 twitter followers when they leave the stage... :rolleyes:

micromary · 09-11-2015 08:48PM

sully2010 wrote: »

What exactly do you mean by "I had to go for an interview with this bunch of tossers?" And what opinion did you give them?

Sounds like the rant of someone with a failed start up/business. Or more likely someone who really doesn't know what they're talking about.

I certainly know what I am talking about so if you do not know me, please keep your opinions to yourself.

I decided to give up the business because I did not like working for myself. It was also my choose to go back to a full-time job which I am very happy at. As for the interview I went through it as every start up business needs to but their attitude was pretty aggressive for what they were requiring and I told them I was not interested in intending. I was bombarded with calls and emails thereafter for the full-time tickets. Apologies for calling them tossers. It is their business after all!

09-11-2015 09:01PM

micromary wrote: »

I certainly know what I am talking about so if you do not know me, please keep your opinions to yourself.

I decided to give up the business because I did not like working for myself. It was also my choose to go back to a full-time job which I am very happy at. As for the interview I went through it as every start up business needs to but their attitude was pretty aggressive for what they were requiring and I told them I was not interested in intending. I was bombarded with calls and emails thereafter for the full-time tickets. Apologies for calling them tossers. It is their business after all!

Isn't that what forums are about, expressing opinions? You chose to go to the interview and you chose to allow them to be "aggressive." You also chose not to unsubscribe to their emails and request for your phone number to be taken off their call list. All you seem to have said is you are not interested in attending. A good salesperson will never stop at that point, especially if they managed to get an interview out of you.

I know people who went through the process of inquiring about attending the WS and choosing not to attend. I don't recall hearing they were aggressive, just the usual irritating sales tactics you see all the time.

micromary · 09-11-2015 09:07PM

sully2010 wrote: »

Isn't that what forums are about, expressing opinions? You chose to go to the interview and you chose to allow them to be "aggressive." You also chose not to unsubscribe to their emails and request for your phone number to be taken off their call list. All you seem to have said is you are not interested in attending. A good salesperson will never stop at that point, especially if they managed to get an interview out of you.

I know people who went through the process of inquiring about attending the WS and choosing not to attend. I don't recall hearing they were aggressive, just the usual irritating sales tactics you see all the time.[/QUOTE

Who said I choose to allow them be aggressive? Never said that. How can you unsubscribe from phone calls coming in? Eventually I did bar the number and unsubscribed the emails so do not take this out of context.

As for not attending, maybe I had a bad experience and it just was not for me. Just because you know people who got interviewed Scully does not mean you know everybody so do not take it out of context.

darkpagandeath · 09-11-2015 09:24PM

awec wrote: »

The price of the tickets is fairly standard for that sort of conference. Most tech conferences (even though the Web Summit isn't really a tech conference) would be more expensive than that.

And of course it brings over Rio Ferdinand etc at the punters cost. That's what the ticket is for. Do you expect the speakers to pay for themselves to come over and give a talk?

The WS deserves a lot of criticism but you can hardly moan about the speakers being paid for by those attending.

I thought most people were not hence the outrage and calls of scam from some media outlets.

09-11-2015 09:28PM

smash wrote: »

Most speakers aren't paid, they're just given the whole "It'll be great publicity for you/your company" talk. WS doesn't even pay for flights or accommodation for a lot of speakers who come from abroad. And those who come of their own accord without the backing of the companies they work for have to pay for it all them selves, and use up their holidays.

But sure it's great publicity for them when they get an extra 50 twitter followers when they leave the stage... :rolleyes:

I've spoken at many events of this type (never web summit though) and never been paid beyond a 'speaker' pass, a thank you and a bottle of something. Which half the time you can't take back on the plane.

I imagine that in some cases high profile people are offered money and better hospitality but in most cases you are with a company which wants to promote something or at the least get noticed (or you want to get noticed yourself)

Not defending the Web Summit - I don't rate it as an event - just saying that's how it works.

Tarzana2 · 10-11-2015 02:32AM

RedemptionZ wrote: »

What exactly has he done to be a D4 stereotype?

Did you miss the part where I said I'm not sure it applies to Paddy Cosgrave?

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Though I'm not sure it's accurate to describe PC.

I was simply pointing out that poster that the D4 thing is often more a behaviour, affecting an accent etc, rather than growing up in Dublin 4, as many people who grew up there will tell you.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 11-11-2015 06:31AM

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/an-apology-to-web-summits-cosgrave-for-our-begrudgery-34185052.html

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/an-apology-to-web-summits-cosgrave-for-our-begrudgery-34185052.html

Irish Independent
10/11/2015

I am writing to apologise for our behaviour as brothers and sisters to Web Summit co-founder Paddy Cosgrave during the week of his big event. I thought that we had all promised each other that we wouldn't repeat our poor behaviour of the 1980s, when we begrudged anyone who succeeded in their goals.

Paddy was simply organising a big party and invited many guests from around the world and just wanted them all to have a good time. And he was naturally hoping that his brothers and sisters would all behave themselves while his guests were here.

But, instead, we all tried to publicly humiliate him in front of all his guests every day until they all went back to their homes, and we embarrassed ourselves on this occasion.

I don't think we actually know how much damage we have done to the brand and concept that Paddy spent years putting his neck out there to build - and just when it came true for him, his big brothers and sisters came in and tried to destroy it for him.

I don't think people get what the Web Summit is about, and these are probably the same people who don't understand that the difference between a recession and a boom is simply a positive attitude. And the Web Summit fosters enormous positive attitudes amongst all the young people who partake in it.

I have been to both the Web Summit this week and the Surf Summit, and once again I was impressed with the level of detail Paddy went to to ensure that everyone who travelled from so far was given the best treatment possible, right down to the quality of the food that he organised from quality Irish food providers.

After the great week that we had, it seems to me to be a good idea to try to host the next event in Portugal.

It is similar to Dublin in that it has a lot to offer for the world to see and will give the event a new angle, and it will be great for Portugal to experience the positive energy that this event creates. Maybe Paddy could bring the event to other cities around Europe that want and could use this positive energy.

I would like to congratulate Paddy on what he has achieved. People don't understand that the only way to achieve the vision that he had required a personality of someone who puts their neck out there. So Paddy shouldn't have to apologise for being who he is and he should just continue to aim for the stars and we should all start backing him again all the way.

Paul Montwill
CEO, Magico

Why should the country as a whole be backing a wealthy business man all the way as he "aims for the stars".Surely he can get by on his own now?

ninebeanrows · 11-11-2015 06:34AM

Good to see the back of this. The success has obviously got to the CEO, doesn't come across as most likeable character

smash · 11-11-2015 09:41AM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/an-apology-to-web-summits-cosgrave-for-our-begrudgery-34185052.html

Why should the country as a whole be backing a wealthy business man all the way as he "aims for the stars".Surely he can get by on his own now?

Hard to believe that a CEO actually wrote that drivel.

bucketybuck · 11-11-2015 10:05AM

smash wrote: »

Hard to believe that a CEO actually wrote that drivel.

I thought I was reading a parody, then realised he was being serious! What a clown.

Dyr · 11-11-2015 10:39AM

smash wrote: »

Hard to believe that a CEO actually wrote that drivel.

CEO of what though

kunst nugget · 11-11-2015 10:39AM

bucketybuck wrote: »

I thought I was reading a parody, then realised he was being serious! What a clown.

My favourite line is

I don't think people get what the Web Summit is about, and these are probably the same people who don't understand that the difference between a recession and a boom is simply a positive attitude.

osarusan · 11-11-2015 10:42AM

I'm trying to find a way in which Paul Montwill is an anagram of Paddy Cosgrave.

smash · 11-11-2015 11:36AM

Bambi wrote: »

CEO of what though

http://www.magico.com/

kunst nugget wrote: »

My favourite line is

I liked: "Paddy was simply organising a big party and invited many guests from around the world and just wanted them all to have a good time."

Oh yea, a big party.... That Paddy wanted everyone else to organise and pay for!

Also, what's with all the 'brothers and sisters' crap? Sounds like it was written by a free mason.

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