Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

DarraghF197 · 04-11-2015 09:42PM

Two '90 goals for Olympiacos against Zagreb. They could have easily drew twice, bringing us into a great position.

Pudders · 04-11-2015 09:43PM

Groundhog Day only a round earlier than normal.

It would be nice to go just one season without getting a complete humping from someone.

omega man · 04-11-2015 09:45PM

We're out. If we even try it'll only get worse with Europa league qualification, no thanks.

Only one thing matters now and that's to smash the spuds. Nothing else will do.

Marcus Antonius · 04-11-2015 09:46PM

Embarrassing. No excuse, I don't care if we're plagued with injuries the majority of our players did not want to be there from the get go. I could single people out but with the exception of maybe Coq, Campbell & Alexis nobody else gave a sh*t. Turning your back on a fluffed shot (so it comes off your out stretched knee) should be a shootable offence. Pathetic...Don't even think a win against our pals on the weekend can make up for it

tayto lover · 04-11-2015 09:49PM

Marcus Antonius wrote: »

Embarrassing. No excuse, I don't care if we're plagued with injuries the majority of our players did not want to be there from the get go. I could single people out but with the exception of maybe Coq, Campbell & Alexis nobody else gave a sh*t. Turning your back on a fluffed shot (so it comes off your out stretched knee) should be a shootable offence. Pathetic...Don't even think a win against our pals on the weekend can make up for it

Not Per's first time turning his back either. Scandalous.

I think being out of this early will help our EPL chances thb.

DarraghF197 · 04-11-2015 09:50PM

Marcus Antonius wrote: »

Embarrassing. No excuse, I don't care if we're plagued with injuries the majority of our players did not want to be there from the get go. I could single people out but with the exception of maybe Coq, Campbell & Alexis nobody else gave a sh*t. Turning your back on a fluffed shot (so it comes off your out stretched knee) should be a shootable offence. Pathetic...Don't even think a win against our pals on the weekend can make up for it

Mert does that every game, nothing new there.

I thought Alexis was poor enough tonight. He hasn't found top gear in the last couple of games. Giroud, Ozil, Campbell, Cech, Monreal and Coquelin were grand tonight. It seemed that they had a game plan to see if they could score early on, and, if they conceded, they would just give it up and save some energy.

KaiserGunner · 04-11-2015 09:51PM

Marcus Antonius wrote: »

Embarrassing. No excuse, I don't care if we're plagued with injuries the majority of our players did not want to be there from the get go. I could single people out but with the exception of maybe Coq, Campbell & Alexis nobody else gave a sh*t. Turning your back on a fluffed shot (so it comes off your out stretched knee) should be a shootable offence. Pathetic...Don't even think a win against our pals on the weekend can make up for it

Yeah I agree with a lot of your points, but our league form for me is making up for this disastrous champions league Campaign. If we continue going well in the league then I'm happy. I still want to get through to the next phase but really don't want Europa league.

emergingstar · 04-11-2015 09:51PM

Spurs on Sunday, this result won't bother me one bit once we get the win there

Marcus Antonius · 04-11-2015 09:51PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Not Per's first time turning his back either. Scandalous.

I think being out of this early will help our EPL chances thb.

And he is our captain :mad: Not if we put in a defensive performance like that. It was school boy stuff, turn your back on the ball, keep backing away from the attacking player and don't ever put in a tackle.

Awesomeness · 04-11-2015 09:51PM

omega man wrote: »

We're out. If we even try it'll only get worse with Europa league qualification, no thanks.

Only one thing matters now and that's to smash the spuds. Nothing else will do.

Planning to go out and lose games is ridiculous. We still have a decent change to go through. Get a result at the weekend , get a few players back after the break and things will be looking a lot better

JustTheOne · 04-11-2015 09:52PM

Jesus Christ eamon says if John Terry was out there tonight he would have hurt somebody and it wouldn't have happend.

And now ozil typifies whats wrong with arsenal.

shano_88 · 04-11-2015 09:52PM

Awful night but the pundrity on RTE is full of cliched lazy analysis.

Blame Ozil/Wenger is the name of the game for them.

Looper007 · 04-11-2015 09:53PM

What's with the defeatist attitude, we can beat Zagreb and the Greek lot. They ain't Bayern we are talking about. Most teams going to Bayern would get a whipping even better sides then us. Remember we beat them two weeks ago, let's not forget that.

Nothing is over with yet. Lets stop acting like it is and throwing the towel in.

omega man · 04-11-2015 09:53PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Spurs on Sunday, this result won't bother me one bit once we get the win there

I hear you but surely a result like tonight gets into the players minds. We've a bit of a bad habit of getting mauled in some big games which still worries me a lot.

04-11-2015 09:53PM

Dunphy talking shīt. Sticking the boot into us is one thing but holding Terry and Chelsea up as an example is laughable.

wonga77 · 04-11-2015 09:53PM

Best to try and put this one to bed im afraid, Kos and Bellerin were huge losses but we still had a good team out there tonight, despite what some here seem to think, 8 of tonights starting team started at the emirates 2 weeks ago. Losing Kos was always going to be tough but I thought Gabriel was a very good backup option, Bellerins pace against Costa was missed. Swapping Giroud for Walcott wasnt a major difference although Walcotts pace did cause problems (even if his shooting didnt). You would swear we had a team of Sanogo's out there tonight
Hard to believe that there could be such a difference in displays, even taking Bayerns excellent home record into account.
I said it earlier but if we are to go out at this stage then id much prefer we miss out on thursday night football and concentrate on the league

I just hope the players put tonight behind them and move on as we have a huge game the weekend, hopefully a few faces back too

Marcus Antonius · 04-11-2015 09:54PM

shano_88 wrote: »

Awful night but the pundrity on RTE is full of cliched lazy analysis.

Blame Ozil/Wenger is the name of the game for them.

Whelan definitely takes the prize for being one of the worst commentators to ever grace football with his presence.

emergingstar · 04-11-2015 09:55PM

omega man wrote: »

I hear you but surely a result like tonight gets into the players minds. We've a bit of a bad habit of getting mauled in some big games which still worries me a lot.

Don't look like the players were bothered with this game, so I expect a a response on Sunday

Looper007 · 04-11-2015 09:56PM

Marcus Antonius wrote: »

Whelan definitely takes the prize for being one of the worst commentators to ever grace football with his presence.

Still can't get over the night we did him and his side over in 89. Which is a fact.
Most of that RTE lot don't watch any football rather spend their time getting drunk.

Spanish Johnny · 04-11-2015 09:56PM

wonga77 wrote: »

Best to try and put this one to bed im afraid, Kos and Bellerin were huge losses but we still had a good team out there tonight, despite what some here seem to think, 8 of tonights starting team started at the emirates 2 weeks ago. Losing Kos was always going to be tough but I thought Gabriel was a very good backup option, Bellerins pace against Costa was missed. Swapping Giroud for Walcott wasnt a major difference although Walcotts pace did cause problems (even if his shooting didnt). You would swear we had a team of Sanogo's out there tonight
Hard to believe that there could be such a difference in displays, even taking Bayerns excellent home record into account.
I said it earlier but if we are to go out at this stage then id much prefer we miss out on thursday night football and concentrate on the league

I just hope the players put tonight behind them and move on as we have a huge game the weekend, hopefully a few faces back too

Yup...beat Spurs, get to the break and get a few lads back.

feeling we will draw on Sunday and felt that before tonight too. Spurs going very well I have to admit. Gonna be tough.

Marcus Antonius · 04-11-2015 09:57PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Don't look like the players were bothered with this game, so I expect a a response on Sunday

But why weren't they bothered? I mean I'm not having a go at you, as a few people have pointed out the same thing. Should they not want to win every game no matter who it's against? If they're not bothered then why are they being played?

Looper007 · 04-11-2015 09:58PM

Marcus Antonius wrote: »

Embarrassing. No excuse, I don't care if we're plagued with injuries the majority of our players did not want to be there from the get go. I could single people out but with the exception of maybe Coq, Campbell & Alexis nobody else gave a sh*t. Turning your back on a fluffed shot (so it comes off your out stretched knee) should be a shootable offence. Pathetic...Don't even think a win against our pals on the weekend can make up for it

Sorry Giroud and Ozil were two of our better players. I thought Alexis was poor and Campbell was stuffed.

tayto lover · 04-11-2015 09:59PM

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Yup...beat Spurs, get to the break and get a few lads back.

feeling we will draw on Sunday and felt that before tonight too. Spurs going very well I have to admit. Gonna be tough.

A draw is no good for me.
I want a win against Spurs, especially at the Emirates.

wonga77 · 04-11-2015 10:00PM

Looking at the table there I think we are destined for the Europa league, I think we'll beat Zagreb but cant see us winning by a few goals in Greece, thats going to be a very tough game

gosplan · 04-11-2015 10:00PM

People have been saying for ages that we should prioritise the PL.

That's what we're doing this year.

That's all.

Looper007 · 04-11-2015 10:01PM

tayto lover wrote: »

A draw is no good for me.
I want a win against Spurs, especially at the Emirates.

We should be beaten them at our place, they aren't world beaters we are speaking off. I expect a top performance and the three points.

Marcus Antonius · 04-11-2015 10:02PM

Looper007 wrote: »

Sorry Giroud and Ozil were two of our better players. I thought Alexis was poor and Campbell was stuffed.

Campbell tracked back like a trooper as Debuchy was as rusty as could be. Alexis made a few mistakes and looks jaded but if you looked up the stats for ground covered he'd of been top of it. There was one point when we were what like 4-1 down where he ran back to defense won the ball and was the chasing the Bayern defenders down when the ball went back that way. Great game not at all, made a few mistakes and constantly got crowded out of it. Giroud also tried and got a good goal. He was isolated for most of the match I'll conceed that. As I said don't really want to get into particular player ratings as when you lose a match 5-1 no player on your team played well

Looper007 · 04-11-2015 10:03PM

wonga77 wrote: »

Looking at the table there I think we are destined for the Europa league, I think we'll beat Zagreb but cant see us winning by a few goals in Greece, thats going to be a very tough game

I think we can get a few goals in Greece, don't think they are any great shakes. We made them look better then they really are. We will have most of the injured players back and hopefully no more injury worries. I think we are far better when we have something on the line.

Irish Aris · 04-11-2015 10:03PM

Marcus Antonius wrote: »

But why weren't they bothered? I mean I'm not having a go at you, as a few people have pointed out the same thing. Should they not want to win every game no matter who it's against? If they're not bothered then why are they being played?

My feeling is that the plan was to hold in the back.
The early goal threw that off the window and the second goal destryed everything.

I think that for the first 30 minutes we were doing relatively OK, after the second goal they just gave up.

But like previously said, this is one of the top-3 in Europe, in a completely different level than all other teams.
It's not ideal to lose 5-1, and it's not the end of the world either.

Irish Aris · 04-11-2015 10:06PM

Looper007 wrote: »

I think we can get a few goals in Greece, don't think they are any great shakes. We made them look better then they really are. We will have most of the injured players back and hopefully no more injury worries. I think we are far better when we have something on the line.

The problem for this game Looper is that they can park the bus and hit us on the counter attack.
I still think we can do it but it will need patience and it will be absolutely critical to score the first goal.

All that assuming there will be no surprises on the next games

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

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