Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

emmetlego · 04-11-2015 08:34PM

Quazzie wrote: »

It's a tough place to go, made all the tougher by us being beaten to every ball, which is mostly down to lack of "give-a-fúck".

Agree. To be fair, these are the best team in Europe at the moment, we are very depleted. We are playing them away where they have been winning 3-0 4-0 5-0 all season. What did you expect? And the lack of G-A-F comment is just churlish and serves no purpose!

04-11-2015 08:35PM

JustTheOne wrote: »

Can we just forget about Europe from now on. We ain't gonna win it.

Should just focus on the league free from distractions.

Shame to give such a limp performance after such jubilation the last night though. In truth we havent the squad to make an assault on both

wonga77 · 04-11-2015 08:35PM

I just hope this doesnt get any worse, fair enough we are missing a few but we could really do without a hiding, strange thing is I dont even think Bayern are at full pelt. Hard for Giroud to do anything on his own, the biggest issue for me is the lack of pressing from our midfield up, its putting a crazy amount of pressure on our defence which looks shaky as it is.
We could badly do with a couple of movements where we hold onto the ball and try pass it about instead of giving it back so easy

KaiserGunner · 04-11-2015 08:36PM

Really poor half from us, started off well and was a pity that our goal was disallowed by the behind the goal ref. Defending was dire for all 3 goals. Just want this match finished and done with, without damaging morale. It's amazing that we can still qualify after losing 3 of 4!

Looper007 · 04-11-2015 08:36PM

Well you can't go to Bayern and with all the injuries we got and play them at their own game. We were asking for a whipping and that's what we're getting. Without Kos in the back, Mert's weaknesses are shown up. Poor Debuchy is having a horror show. Campbell, you get away with him in the PL but not in a big CL game. Ozil and Cech are the only ones trying.

I take off Ozil, Alexis and Giroud and just go defensive and hope they got score more.

wonga77 · 04-11-2015 08:38PM

emmetlego wrote: »

Agree. To be fair, these are the best team in Europe at the moment, we are very depleted. We are playing them away where they have been winning 3-0 4-0 5-0 all season. What did you expect? And the lack of G-A-F comment is just churlish and serves no purpose!

The majority of this team with the exception of Campbell, Debuchy and Gabriel are normally first choice players

04-11-2015 08:38PM

Looper007 wrote: »

Well you can't go to Bayern and with all the injuries we got and play them at their own game. We were asking for a whipping and that's what we're getting. Without Kos in the back, Mert's weaknesses are shown up. Poor Debuchy is having a horror show. Campbell, you get away with him in the PL but not in a big CL game. Ozil and Cech are the only ones trying.

I take off Ozil, Alexis and Giroud and just go defensive and hope they got score more.

That's the problem. We can't even go defensive and hit them on the break, because we're missing our best defenders and our pace men to hit them on the break.

Campbell just pains me to watch, he just looks so sluggish.

wonga77 · 04-11-2015 08:39PM

Basil3 wrote: »

That the problem. We can't even go defensive and hit them on the break, because we're missing our best defenders and our pace men to hit them on the break.

Campbell just pains me to watch, he just looks so sluggish.

Yeah Campbell has a really strange looking run, looks like a guy who has ran 20 miles already

Looper007 · 04-11-2015 08:40PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Can you honestly see Arsenal doing anything in this competition, really?
We are lightyears away from what it takes to win the CL.

Agreed, it's good enough to win the PL but we are a good bit away from the CL.

But we have to look at the fact we are missing four to five first teamers, I'm not saying we would have not lost tonight even with them but we could have given a better shown of ourselves.

But even better teams then us would have gone then and would have been put to the sword as well.

JustTheOne · 04-11-2015 08:41PM

wonga77 wrote: »

The majority of this team with the exception of Campbell, Debuchy and Gabriel are normally first choice players

Yeah and when city are missing 3 top players they fall apart and people dont give them a hard time.

efb · 04-11-2015 08:42PM

Hey better to finish 4th and concentrate on the league - we'll always have that Bayern win

Looper007 · 04-11-2015 08:43PM

Basil3 wrote: »

That's the problem. We can't even go defensive and hit them on the break, because we're missing our best defenders and our pace men to hit them on the break.

Campbell just pains me to watch, he just looks so sluggish.

We are a missing a few players and it's really shown tonight sadly. We can get away with it in the PL but not agaisn't teams like Munich.

I think Campbell isn't up to this level, we can get away with him in the PL for a few games but not tonight. He's leaving poor Debuchy to be murdered out there.

beer enigma · 04-11-2015 08:44PM

I don't really get the injuries excuse, with the exception of Walcott & Ramsay, we pretty much have the squad that plays every week ? What I'm seeing here is a lack of desire, sorry but some of the players just haven't turned up today and that need to be addressed.

superfurry1 · 04-11-2015 08:44PM

JustTheOne wrote: »

Yeah and when city are missing 3 top players they fall apart and people dont give them a hard time.

That didn't stop the winning well last night

wonga77 · 04-11-2015 08:46PM

JustTheOne wrote: »

Yeah and when city are missing 3 top players they fall apart and people dont give them a hard time.

I dont give a tupennies fcuk about Man City or anyone else, Our starting 11 is strong enough, we have nothing on the bench granted but apart from Cech and maybe Ozil, the rest look very poor, we'll have to go very defensive and just hope we dont concede another 3 or 4

Looper007 · 04-11-2015 08:47PM

Andip wrote: »

I don't really get the injuries excuse, with the exception of Walcott & Ramsay, we pretty much have the squad that plays every week ? What I'm seeing here is a lack of desire, sorry but some of the players just haven't turned up today and that need to be addressed.

Bellerin and Kos as well so four first teamers. It's no excuse but you can't go there without a full team. It's not a lack of desire but not doing what we did in the first game and that's defending and hitting them on the break. We are going head to head with them which is crazy.

JustTheOne · 04-11-2015 08:47PM

Andip wrote: »

I don't really get the injuries excuse, with the exception of Walcott & Ramsay, we pretty much have the squad that plays every week ? What I'm seeing here is a lack of desire, sorry but some of the players just haven't turned up today and that need to be addressed.

Em and kos and bellerin.

emmetlego · 04-11-2015 08:48PM

Andip wrote: »

I don't really get the injuries excuse, with the exception of Walcott & Ramsay, we pretty much have the squad that plays every week ? What I'm seeing here is a lack of desire, sorry but some of the players just haven't turned up today and that need to be addressed.

Bellerin? Koscielny? Ox is even ahead of Campbell! Seriously, if you're going to troll, at least make an effort to make it believable!

efb · 04-11-2015 08:48PM

wonga77 wrote: »

I dont give a tupennies fcuk about Man City or anyone else, Our starting 11 is strong enough, we have nothing on the bench granted but apart from Cech and maybe Ozil, the rest look very poor, we'll have to go very defensive and just hope we dont concede another 3 or 4

Whast does it matter now???

JustTheOne · 04-11-2015 08:49PM

We did beat them 2 weeks ago.

Lets not forget that.

Looper007 · 04-11-2015 08:49PM

superfurry1 wrote: »

That didn't stop the winning well last night

To be fair Sevilla ain't Bayern though. Totally different teams.

efb · 04-11-2015 08:50PM

superfurry1 wrote: »

That didn't stop the winning well last night

who were they playing again?? Barca PSG Madrid???

wonga77 · 04-11-2015 08:53PM

efb wrote: »

Whast does it matter now???

Are you serious? What does it matter now??? Maybe I would prefer to see my team not lose 6 or 7 nil. I dont care what competition it is or what team we have out, I always want to win or at the very least go down fighting. I wouldnt be able to ignore a heavy defeat or be as flippant about it as you seem (regardless of injuries or whatever)

Lahinchians · 04-11-2015 08:54PM

We're so slow out there tonight! I can see us conceding a few more unfortunately

efb · 04-11-2015 08:54PM

wonga77 wrote: »

Are you serious? What does it matter now??? Maybe I would prefer to see my team not lose 6 or 7 nil. I dont care what competition it is or what team we have out, I always want to win or at the very least go down fighting. I wouldnt be able to ignore a heavy defeat or be as flippant about it as you seem

I know when to cut my losses and move on. Derby at weekend more important

emmetlego · 04-11-2015 08:54PM

Again, I said it about 8 hours ago, we had no hope in this without pace up top. When you lose regular attackers like Theo or Ox who provide that in spades, we were always going to struggle. While it's disappointing, it's hardly worth wailing and screaming over. This was always on the cards.

As is my way. Positives from this... A cockyness check ahead of Spurs. A great game to bring Debuchy up to pace. I'll "make up some more" when I think of them :-)

omega man · 04-11-2015 08:56PM

emmetlego wrote: »

Bellerin? Koscielny? Ox is even ahead of Campbell! Seriously, if you're going to troll, at least make an effort to make it believable!

If Gabriel and debuchy can't step in and do a solid job then we've absolutely no chance of winning the league because there's zero chance that our 1st choice back 4 will remain injury free until the end of the season.

Campbell for ox isn't exactly end of the world stuff either.

beer enigma · 04-11-2015 08:56PM

emmetlego wrote: »

Bellerin? Koscielny? Ox is even ahead of Campbell! Seriously, if you're going to troll, at least make an effort to make it believable!

Don't accuse me of trolling, I've been a boards mod for many many years and first stood on the Highbury terraces in the early 70's when Bertie Mee was manager. I call as I see, it's a shambles

wonga77 · 04-11-2015 08:58PM

Was just gonna say that Robben coming in and he will take looking after and he scores with his first touch.
Sad to say but id gladly take the 4 - 0 defeat now and hope it doesnt get any worse

emmetlego · 04-11-2015 08:59PM

omega man wrote: »

If Gabriel and debuchy can't step in and do a solid job then we've absolutely no chance of winning the league because there's zero chance that our 1st choice back 4 will remain injury free until the end of the season.

Campbell for ox isn't exactly end of the world stuff either.

That's not what I was replying to. Please keep up!

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

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