Cork GAA Discussion Thread

How is it a huge game for the Glen? They won the county, which is what they were aiming for.

Hurleratheart wrote: »

Harty rolls around again on wensday

Huge game in caher for Middleton - heard they arent going very well so o hope they can pull it out of bag - hopefully send. A warning shot to ASR - be very disapointing if they dont - didnt hear if manley is available for them or not - would be addition if so

I think Rochestown will get over youghal as dalton still out - rochestown still don't have Kingston but should have to much for youghal I feel

Do or die for charlville v AG Both have to win another loss would put them out - charlville might have edge as AG. Very young team

Hammies have to win as well but up against dela sall who beat Blackwater by 7 points last day

Best of luck to all cork teams

Hope weather holds up

Yeah you would have to say whoever wins between AG V Charleville puts themselves back in contention to come out if the group

Ard Scoil Ris will be all guns blazing to get over Midleton they fancy their chances every year and this is no different - the main man Peter Casey doing very well for Na Piarsaigh and with the munster club game postponed to following weekend he will be totally focused

New proposals for HQ make for interesting reading. impossible to please every one

I havent had a chance to fully absorb them but one thing is for sure the 17 - 21 age group must be protected as they are the ones under horrendous pressure with club, college, intercounty - just eligible for too many teams and pulled in too many directions - and they are the future stars

Stephen McDonnell captain is it because hes from the county champions ? not sure if that is a good idea anyway best of luck to him ...Horgan also says that a development squad will be named to train alongside the senior panel... John Horgan must have a good contact inside the new management.

Horse84 wrote: »

Stephen mcdonnel is the new hurling captain

Goodchoice honest hurler

zetecescort wrote: »

I guess pitches are getting bad now but its a pity this isn't a double header with Nemo away to the Waterford champions this weekend too

Tbh who ever wins waterford county deserves home advantage and nemo have more in them and will be huge favourites to win so they correctly so shouldn't have double header in club games as unfair waterford champions and more so in when it's joke waterford county final is Friday night and have play munster night after
Its inconceivable to expect that winner be mentally fresh and physically after emotion winning there county then beat nemo the day after
Totally unfair on waterford champions

Liam kearns going be tipp new management so he's good with proven record at club and county so should cork meet tipp will be well prepared
Best of luck to Ephie going as coach to waterford he'll do well but truth is they have limited resources so won't ever win anything and again feel for Fitzgerald good coach way treated for cork job
Mayo have imo gone from being a team in decline that I didn't rate to now real challenge with excellent Rochford and mcentee join there set up and Cork have competition for top four and league opener in cork will be tough and least if we beat mayo it won't be false dawns

The talk about demolishing the under twenty one typical it's only football being talked off and not the hurling and it would be woeful move but something I would expect from Duffy
Under twenty one is vital to form a bridge from new under seventeen to senior and will hinder player development and loose player to hurling and typical gaa make decisions with no logic behind it
It would be disaster for cork football who needs that grade and was our shining light
Fair enough junior and intermediate is being looked at but sigerson should be looked at and Byrnes and mcgrath cup should be pulled ist and if Duffy wants stop player burnout why not scrap this mickey mouse farce hybrid inter national rules game serves no purpose and also put limit dual players

Hurleratheart wrote: »

Goodchoice honest hurler

Good honest hurler means nothing for a captain as captain must also have leadership and more so when imo captain vital for cork hurling in we have no real success the last ten years I'd have chosen seamus Harnedy
Mcdonnell I'm huge fan of and was always and he's starter definitely and am glad he's now not full back and showed great courage to come back from poor games when played out position but imo good choice as captain isn't what it should be it should be who is cork best choice of captain

Imo Harnedy had to be captain iin he's three years with cork he's won an all star and nominated for one always performed in big league and championship games and always when cork need a lift performs
He's post match interview show what cork jersey mean to him like in he fully understand the values of it and imo he's be ideal to cope with the added pressure of off field demands and media role of captain
Not every player makes good captain but Harnedy was born for the role

Imo i have fear that as county champions being captain it shows this cork managment with team picked panel wise in physical direct hurlers with orthodox style going to play with now going back old days captain from county champions imo huge huge concern from my view cork gone back traditional ways and so far from what I seen management last week with panel and now captain I have doubts cork going in the right direction
Mcdonnell I think could be good and hope he is but Cork could have had much better imo with cork best and consistent perform last three years in Harnedy but imo county champions were picked as captain like the old days

Orizio wrote: »

How is it a huge game for the Glen? They won the county, which is what they were aiming for.

I see your view in where your coming from in the glen have not won in twenty five years so all the focus and emotional content is put in to the county so once that is won the hunger isn't there or the drive within to push on and no doubt it's long long season for club lads but while in no way would I expect the glen to be winning munster in year one any team wins county in cork at any level it's reasonable to expect that once there in munster competition at least show hunger a want a desire within to at least be competitive and if they think winning county gives any team right to say to he'll with munster imo i hope any team that attuide win few and even no county titles

The glen from what I hear all credit due have started training too week ago and are going to try and push on and if there beaten as it's the ist year munster for years and away from home to famous club like Ballygunner then no problem once there competitive and try as tbh Ballygunner I have concerns tactically in big games with Denis Walsh management from he's Catherine and both cork time so Ballygunner aren't unbeatable and if but that is big if horgan actually decided to lead from the front from play and justify he's magnificent talent the glen could win but again it depends on horgan as while you will get away with it in cork you need your inter county player to lead from the front in munster competition
Ist real test of mcdonnell in now cork captain he should be leading from the defence with glen in attuide should be we won a county but the great great really really great gglen teams won munster etc and look at na Piarsaigh limerick came from no where and yet loose munster game so point is attuide absoultey correct attuide is key to being competitive


If the glen adopt with respect your attuide they may as well even not bother wasting petrol driving down or diesel as there beaten before they start
In munster like charville dripsey meelin even in defeat Grenagh less resources in junior competition didn't wilt in munster but showed real desire be as good as they can be in munster in past few years and na Piarsaigh limerick also they used no excuse in they drove on

Last year and not picking on castle matyr but it is what it was in there a perfect example to use imo showed no hunger no attuide to win in munster final despite having easy route beating kerry team bye to munster and final in cork wasn't there were beaten but they were absoultey destroyed as results show and when you compare the cork junior team of past few years even in defeat were competitive imo no excuse for that huge defeat


Yes some will make excuses etc for them long hard season small club but if so why didn't that affect meelin dripsey etc
Difference was those clubs pushed on

In munster cork club don't have to always win but have at least be competitive as there representing cork and if people think ah win a county but sure munster doesn't matter why even take part then as vince lombardi said once if winning doesn't matter why then even keep the score


Kk club always compete in there province and do so as the attitude is there to
Midelton to be fair while we're beaten two years ago at least were competitive
Sars be fair were competitive and after ist year you would say that's acceptable but the imo problem was year on year poor results were not good as sars had munster experience

What give small club like Newtownshandrum and portumna rights win all ireland
Newton came from no where and win an all ireland and only years up from intermediate intermediate
It certainly was not the attuide our big games was the county final all is done
There attuide was a lot done but more to do and one club will win munster sure why can't it be us
Cork hurling needs attuide change in expecting more and imo that has to happen at all levels like school in harty and clubs and county teams and credit due there's signs of change but cork hasn't won club munster senior years so it needs to change

Nemo built a legacy of successful culture in not alone winning cork but winning munster and all ireland
It always happen like any club ist step on road to success with an attuide to actually drive on
This attuide will now motivate nemo in having traditional past team know too well with o brien leading the charge winning club won't be how nemo judged in there expected by there own to win munster
Expectation is good it drives performance
With greatest respect I disagree your view in sunday not big games for the glen in imo if they think like that they are destined to fail
I think they will try and push on
Ballincollig last year hasn't won senior county football in year but didn't rest on there laurel they all great credit due pushed Austin stacks all the way in extra time
They lost nothing in defeat and you can't fault them because at least they tried to win
Any cork team representing cork any competitive grade imo representing proud proud gaa traditional so they must at least try and be competitive.

Missmstch in carrigtwohill

Youghall not at the races st all although o Connell at 8 caught world of ball

Easy win for Srochestown who have learned nothin from it

Much tougher games ahesd

1 9 to 10 loss for Middleton - low scores in good conditionsand sounds like Middleton had great second half
Pity

Not the worst result for Midleton. Might even have a half decent side for the 1st time in yrs. Youghal and Hammies are taking the p1ss at this level.
The Glen should be beating Ballygunner given how easily they won Cork.
Kingston seems to be picking some what athletic based players rather than the tiny tot JBM approach. Still maintain CADS is a massive loss given how weak halfback line is.

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Tbh who ever wins waterford county deserves home advantage and nemo have more in them and will be huge favourites to win so they correctly so shouldn't have double header in club games as unfair waterford champions and more so in when it's joke waterford county final is Friday night and have play munster night after
Its inconceivable to expect that winner be mentally fresh and physically after emotion winning there county then beat nemo the day after
Totally unfair on waterford champions

Liam kearns going be tipp new management so he's good with proven record at club and county so should cork meet tipp will be well prepared
Best of luck to Ephie going as coach to waterford he'll do well but truth is they have limited resources so won't ever win anything and again feel for Fitzgerald good coach way treated for cork job
Mayo have imo gone from being a team in decline that I didn't rate to now real challenge with excellent Rochford and mcentee join there set up and Cork have competition for top four and league opener in cork will be tough and least if we beat mayo it won't be false dawns

The talk about demolishing the under twenty one typical it's only football being talked off and not the hurling and it would be woeful move but something I would expect from Duffy
Under twenty one is vital to form a bridge from new under seventeen to senior and will hinder player development and loose player to hurling and typical gaa make decisions with no logic behind it
It would be disaster for cork football who needs that grade and was our shining light
Fair enough junior and intermediate is being looked at but sigerson should be looked at and Byrnes and mcgrath cup should be pulled ist and if Duffy wants stop player burnout why not scrap this mickey mouse farce hybrid inter national rules game serves no purpose and also put limit dual players

Wouldn't agree that whoever wins Waterford championship deserves home advantage. It's more than a joke that the Waterford county board can't get the senior football championship played off on time, their tough as far as I'm concerned and I'd be saying the same if it was a cork team.
Ballygunner are far from unbeatable and I'd be surprised if the glen don't give them a rattle but I'd fancy ballygunner's experience in Munster to tell. As a poster alluded to it was a major achievement for the glen to win cork after that length of time and I think they may feel themselves that it's bonus territory for them now.
It was alluded to in the echo yday that there will be a senior hurling development squad announced soon. Anyone have anymore info on that?

willietherock wrote:

Not the worst result for Midleton. Might even have a half decent side for the 1st time in yrs. Youghal and Hammies are taking the p1ss at this level. The Glen should be beating Ballygunner given how easily they won Cork. Kingston seems to be picking some what athletic based players rather than the tiny tot JBM approach. Still maintain CADS is a massive loss given how weak halfback line is.

Mid 1 7 to 0 2 down at h/t having played a sweeper for most of the first half. Reverted to conventional formation thereafter and look what happened.
This obsession with pulling a forward back is becoming so over done that it's boring at this stage. But to be adopting a sweeper from the off in underage hurling is nuts. Especially nuts from the likes of Midleton who have good players right throughout their team. As if things are not bad enough already, heaven help us if a Waterford or the like win an AI playing their system, the game we love will be ruined as a spectacle because every Tom, Dick and Harry of a coach will follow suit.
A little harsh on Youghal and Hammies WTR but I see where you're coming from. Both would probably have been better served playing 'B' this year.
At this stage I've narrowed the Harty Race down to T'more, ASR, Rochestown and maybe Midleton IF they get their house in order before its too late. Will they learn from today???

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Is it true power got two goals and john sullivan was excellent also?
Did Kingston features at any part of the game
Thanks in advance

Yes Powter scored 2-3 on went off after 40 mins , Kingston was on the bench and wasn't used and John Sullivan was super throughout his long range shooting is something to behold

hotd1 wrote: »

heard hammies were well in the game today with ten mins to go. might not be their strongest team but great work is being done with regards to hurling in the school. one thing for certain is that they wont fear any midleton side after what happened last year

They have nothing to lose now Midleton cant afford a slip up especially with De la salle unbeaten so far

hotd1 wrote: »

heard hammies were well in the game today with ten mins to go. might not be their strongest team but great work is being done with regards to hurling in the school. one thing for certain is that they wont fear any midleton side after what happened last year

I think form could go out the window given recent history between the 2 schools but you would still expect Midleton to prevail given that they have Bozang looney leahy Smith etc

TTM what was team I am assuming looney, Beausang, Smyth all played did McCarthy play I would have no faith in management there what with talent they have had last two years and did not get out of group stages. Same last year lads played out of positions players who should have played like Beausang from Midleton omitted from last game they played and Denny from Dungourney who never played in any match. Let's hope they can turn it round time will tell as its been the same story being repeated I even remember two years ago they dropped Eoghan Kieary from Killeagh who was a cork minor at the time. So much talent sorry to see it being wasted