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Web Summit quits Dublin

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  • #872
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,007 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    BMMachine wrote: »
    see this.
    and see our stupid spiteful attitude towards it.

    WHY IS THE GOVERNMENT GIVING THEM 700,000????????
    WHY AREN'T YOU ANGRY AT THE GOVERNMENT FOR GIVING THEM THAT MONEY AND STILL NOT BEING ABLE TO KEEP THEM IN THE COUNTRY.


    instead no, just get spiteful and do the ol' "oh you're welcome to them" like they have done something wrong. We are so smalltime and insular its ridiculous.

    So much facepalm


  • #873
    BMMachine
    Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    VinLieger wrote: »
    So much facepalm

    do tell me how


  • #874
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    BMMachine wrote: »
    WHY IS THE GOVERNMENT GIVING THEM 700,000????????
    WS initially said it was for advertising space.
    BMMachine wrote: »
    WHY AREN'T YOU ANGRY AT THE GOVERNMENT FOR GIVING THEM THAT MONEY AND STILL NOT BEING ABLE TO KEEP THEM IN THE COUNTRY.
    Because there's no correlation.


  • #875
    BMMachine
    Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    smash wrote: »

    Because there's no correlation.

    bollocks


  • #876
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,007 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    BMMachine wrote: »
    do tell me how

    None of the demands cosgrave et al were making are the responsibility of the government to take care of.

    They gave them the 700,00 over the last few years, its gone... end of, its not like they gave it to them yesterday.

    Lisbon offered them 1.7 million to go there, no word on if that is gonna be a yearly deal or not, so as much as paddy says it was not about the money quite a lot of it was very likely about the money.

    He has spent his time ripping off attendees, suppliers, and his own employees. He is high on his own self ego and worth and by all accounts the summit this year is a shadow of its former self from 3 years ago.


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  • #877
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    I believe the 700K+ was for stands etc at the events over the last four years.


  • #878
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,007 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    BMMachine wrote: »
    bollocks

    Thats a great rebutal there, full of facts and figures, you clearly know what your talking about


  • #879
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    BMMachine wrote: »
    bollocks

    Even if the government had offered them a million or 1.2 million in cash they would have moved because

    1 - Lisbon offered more.
    2 - Paddy's demands were unobtainable without requiring the government to engage in corruption.


  • #880
    Gordy6040
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Gordy6040


    my friend wrote: »
    Thinking of holding an IOT WORLD CONFERENCE next year and hold it in Dublin at the same time as the web summit in Lisbon

    The 'web' is so yesterday

    All I need is for Adrian Weckler to lust after me and I'm set for favourable publicity

    IOT Summit is a really good idea. Hopefully someone will pick up on it.


  • #881
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    smash wrote: »
    Did you see Liam Cunningham's interview?
    http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/web-summit/irate-game-of-thrones-star-dublin-losing-the-web-summit-is-an-embarrassment-34166473.html

    He calls the government dumb, says they probably can't even turn on a mobile phone and then goes on to call the web summit a diamond and says it's important "to the world"...

    facepalm!

    Lol, How is them running the Wi-Fi going oh yes that was everyone else's fault not the organisers. They lost all credibility when they blamed others for there terrible supply of Wi-Fi network access..


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  • #882
    Francie Barrett
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,122 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Paddy has made a real miss step by constantly crying wolf.

    If he had just left it with the first story where a lot of people were fooled into the "blame de gubernment" game he was playing. However the more and more he has tried to spin the more and more people are starting to see through the facade "of saint Paddy the tech company provider and savior of Ireland" his egomania is obsessed with keeping alive.
    Yep. Paddy runs a for profit company, and while I'm all for helping private enterprise, the taxpayer should not have to simply open their wallets so he can make money off us.


  • #883
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    BMMachine wrote: »
    bollocks
    Hi Paddy


  • #884
    brooke 2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    The more I hear them piss and moan that nobody held their hands and told them they were special little flowers and do their jobs for them the more I'm glad they are fu*king off to Lisbon.

    I know a Russian girl studying at trinity who does some modeling work who along with a group of friends was given free three day passes and complimentary food and beverages because and I quote "the organisers didn't want a sausage fest so they handed out passes to attractive STEM students in Trinity and UCD".

    Ridiculous.

    I did read that 99% of the attendance this year was male.There seemed to have been more women there in former years. Perhaps they
    were better at copping on to the fact that the
    Web Summit is a big scam!! ;)


  • #885
    BMMachine
    Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    VinLieger wrote: »
    None of the demands cosgrave et al were making are the responsibility of the government to take care of.

    They gave them the 700,00 over the last few years, its gone... end of, its not like they gave it to them yesterday.

    Lisbon offered them 1.7 million to go there, no word on if that is gonna be a yearly deal or not, so as much as paddy says it was not about the money quite a lot of it was very likely about the money.

    He has spent his time ripping off attendees, suppliers, and his own employees. He is high on his own self ego and worth and by all accounts the summit this year is a shadow of its former self from 3 years ago.

    so why were the government getting involved and why are ministers lining up to stick their nose in now? its none of their responsibility.... I dunno, Im just going to straight up say that your first comment there is ignorant and pretty fu*king dumb. Like, IT IS the governments responsibility to make sure multinational events like this go ahead and are as good as they can be. It very much is, this is the exact kind of thing we should have been doing ages ago but no no - IRELAND - where every little thing is just difficult and stupid. We can't even do buses properly.

    and your last point there, crikey, just proof in the pudding that you are pretty much clueless. "ITS A SHADOW OF ITSELF" - "PORTUGAL OFFERS 1.7m TO HOST IT"
    what is it you said "so much facepalm hurr hurr hurr hurr" After Hours............


  • #886
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Been watching some of it on RTE for the crack, Seems a pretty terrible talking shop and self gratification minor names bigged up like Gates and Jobs.


  • #887
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    BMMachine wrote: »
    so why were the government getting involved and why are ministers lining up to stick their nose in now? its none of their responsibility.... I dunno, Im just going to straight up say that your first comment there is ignorant and pretty fu*king dumb. Like, IT IS the governments responsibility to make sure multinational events like this go ahead and are as good as they can be. It very much is, this is the exact kind of thing we should have been doing ages ago but no no - IRELAND - where every little thing is just difficult and stupid. We can't even do buses properly.

    and your last point there, crikey, just proof in the pudding that you are pretty much clueless. "ITS A SHADOW OF ITSELF" - "PORTUGAL OFFERS 1.7m TO HOST IT"
    what is it you said "so much facepalm hurr hurr hurr hurr" After Hours............

    Let us know who's responsibility it is to provide Buses, Transport to and from the event, hotels cheap ones that is the list goes on. Let me remind one it's not the Governments responsibility any of that. How come other events never seem to have issues ?


  • #888
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    BMMachine wrote: »
    so why were the government getting involved and why are ministers lining up to stick their nose in now? its none of their responsibility....
    They're not getting involved. They are however replying to a comment that paddy made calling previous government funding "Hush money" which is not true.
    BMMachine wrote: »
    I dunno, Im just going to straight up say that your first comment there is ignorant and pretty fu*king dumb. Like, IT IS the governments responsibility to make sure multinational events like this go ahead and are as good as they can be.
    Well no, it's the event organisers responsibility.
    BMMachine wrote: »
    It very much is, this is the exact kind of thing we should have been doing ages ago but no no - IRELAND - where every little thing is just difficult and stupid. We can't even do buses properly.
    When you say "we" do you mean the government? As in, a state funded summit? Or do you explicitly mean that the tax payer should give money to Paddy's private organisation in order for him to make a few more million?
    BMMachine wrote: »
    and your last point there, crikey, just proof in the pudding that you are pretty much clueless. "ITS A SHADOW OF ITSELF" - "PORTUGAL OFFERS 1.7m TO HOST IT"
    what is it you said "so much facepalm hurr hurr hurr hurr" After Hours............
    Take a deep breath there Paddy, you're losing the run of yourself and not even making sense now.


  • #889
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    BMMachine wrote: »
    Like, IT IS the governments responsibility to make sure multinational events like this go ahead and are as good as they can be.
    It would be, if the government were running it.

    This is an event run by a private company, for profit. They don't run it for the benefit of Ireland or the benefit of the attendees or the exhibitors. They run it to make a profit.

    Why should the government get involved in making it "as good as it can be"? Isn't that the responsibility of the private company who is making the profits from it?

    Yes, the government should work at attracting for-profit events to the country, but not by getting involved in the event management.


  • #890
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,007 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    BMMachine wrote: »
    so why were the government getting involved and why are ministers lining up to stick their nose in now? its none of their responsibility.... I dunno, Im just going to straight up say that your first comment there is ignorant and pretty fu*king dumb. Like, IT IS the governments responsibility to make sure multinational events like this go ahead and are as good as they can be. It very much is, this is the exact kind of thing we should have been doing ages ago but no no - IRELAND - where every little thing is just difficult and stupid. We can't even do buses properly.

    and your last point there, crikey, just proof in the pudding that you are pretty much clueless. "ITS A SHADOW OF ITSELF" - "PORTUGAL OFFERS 1.7m TO HOST IT"
    what is it you said "so much facepalm hurr hurr hurr hurr" After Hours............

    So you'd be happy for the government to step in and price fix all the hotels in dublin, pay for the cost of traffic management during the entire event, pay for the cost of garda escorts for summit "VIPS", somehow fix the wifi problems?

    Do you know anyone at it? Cus I do and the reports except from weckler and other bum chums of paddy's are not good. The ratio between investors and startups is the lowest its been since the event started.

    I do have to LOL at your accusation that my comment is typical after hours after you posted this
    BMMachine wrote: »
    bollocks


  • #891
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Thinking about it maybe they should have asked that senator about fixing the Wi-Fi, You know the one with the wiffy code and FB raping. :pac::pac::pac:


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  • #892
    ghostdancer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭ghostdancer


    BMMachine wrote: »
    so why were the government getting involved and why are ministers lining up to stick their nose in now? its none of their responsibility.... I dunno, Im just going to straight up say that your first comment there is ignorant and pretty fu*king dumb. Like, IT IS the governments responsibility to make sure multinational events like this go ahead and are as good as they can be. It very much is, this is the exact kind of thing we should have been doing ages ago but no no - IRELAND - where every little thing is just difficult and stupid. We can't even do buses properly.

    and your last point there, crikey, just proof in the pudding that you are pretty much clueless. "ITS A SHADOW OF ITSELF" - "PORTUGAL OFFERS 1.7m TO HOST IT"
    what is it you said "so much facepalm hurr hurr hurr hurr" After Hours............
    you clearly don't have a clue about even the publicly available background involved here.

    perhaps you should go and actually read up on what has been happening, and what this private company wanted the government to start controlling and arranging for them.


  • #893
    BMMachine
    Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    smash wrote: »
    multiquote nonsense

    so amazingly naive and full of crap.
    Yes, the government should be doing everything they can to help events and businesses like this. Thats what a government does, they govern. when something like this comes a long you make sure it works, you work with the people involved and you try and make it as good as it can be. Instead, you and the rest have the same small time spiteful attitude of "WELL WHAT ARE WEEEEE GETTING OUT OF IT" such a blinkered and small minded attitude to how business works in the world. You have an event like this - you make sure traffic and buses work properly, you make sure hotels aren't taking the piss, you make sure that everyone of those business leaders leaves with a great impression of the country.
    This naive attitude of "OH WELL ITS UP TO THEM" doesn't help a fu*king jot and is indicative of exactly what has been wrong with this country for years. bite your nose off to spite your face

    and the "Take a deep breath there Paddy, you're losing the run of yourself and not even making sense now."
    no it makes perfect sense - Why would Portugal pay that much for something thats "a shadow of its former self" which is what that person I quoted said. That person had previously gone "so much facepalm" so I took the piss out of them by showing just how stupid and naive their thought process on this subject is.
    and yeah, After Hours because all my experiences here are like dealing with absolutely clueless and short sighted people. No wonder this forum has a reputation of a cesspit


  • #894
    ToddyDoody
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Is it actually a summit though?

    "A summit meeting (or just summit) is a meeting of heads of state or government, usually with considerable media exposure, tight security, and a prearranged agenda"


  • #895
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    ghostdancer wrote: »
    you clearly don't have a clue about even the publicly available background involved here.

    perhaps you should go and actually read up on what has been happening, and what this private company wanted the government to start controlling and arranging for them.

    Oh I think they do, I have my suspicions about something.


  • #896
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,627 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Sorry Paddy Cosgrave, you're taking it to Level Brooks on the farce scale now.

    Lads like Liam Cunningham need to be careful of being so indignant over things they know little about, look at how much of an eejit Gabriel Byrne seemed after loosing the run of himself over The Gathering.

    Keep it all in perspective, the Web Summit only came about because a vibrant tech sector existed in this City beforehand, and one will exist long after the Web Summit has done its global locust tour.

    Incidentally, why isn't the Web Summit conducted online.......


  • #897
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    BMMachine wrote: »
    so amazingly naive and full of crap.
    Yes, the government should be doing everything they can to help events and businesses like this. Thats what a government does, they govern. when something like this comes a long you make sure it works, you work with the people involved and you try and make it as good as it can be. Instead, you and the rest have the same small time spiteful attitude of "WELL WHAT ARE WEEEEE GETTING OUT OF IT" such a blinkered and small minded attitude to how business works in the world. You have an event like this - you make sure traffic and buses work properly, you make sure hotels aren't taking the piss, you make sure that everyone of those business leaders leaves with a great impression of the country.
    This naive attitude of "OH WELL ITS UP TO THEM" doesn't help a fu*king jot and is indicative of exactly what has been wrong with this country for years. bite your nose off to spite your face

    and the "Take a deep breath there Paddy, you're losing the run of yourself and not even making sense now."
    no it makes perfect sense - Why would Portugal pay that much for something thats "a shadow of its former self" which is what that person I quoted said. That person had previously gone "so much facepalm" so I took the piss out of them by showing just how stupid and naive their thought process on this subject is.
    and yeah, After Hours because all my experiences here are like dealing with absolutely clueless and short sighted people. No wonder this forum has a reputation of a cesspit

    Tldr, It's the Organisers fault for not planning no one else's get off the stage.


  • #898
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,155 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    VinLieger wrote: »
    So you'd be happy for the government to step in and
    ...
    somehow fix the wifi problems?

    pfft as if Enda could configure the wifi router! :rolleyes:


  • #899
    Synode
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Synode


    BMMachine wrote: »
    you make sure hotels aren't taking the piss

    How exactly do you do this? A little thing called supply and demand dictates the price charged by private enterprises. Are you saying the Government should force these private enterprises to charge a certain price?

    And what do you think about Paddy Cosgrave's statement about hotels price gouging while at the same time doing the same himself with the food?


  • #900
    BMMachine
    Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Tldr, It's the Organisers fault for not planning no one else's get off the stage.

    "tldr" - yeah you got it buddy, that right there, thats the attitude :)
    and just hilarious the calling me "Paddy" like I have anything to do with Web Summit. I just know bullcrap when I see it and Im sorry if it upsets you. I'll unsub this thread and leave you all to fill your collective heads with the ol' "HURRR DURR TAXPAYERS MONEY HURRRR" crap which litters oh about 70% of this forum. Small minded, small time, spiteful - its like a micro version of everything wrong in this country right here


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  • #901
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    smash wrote: »
    Did you see Liam Cunningham's interview?
    http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/web-summit/irate-game-of-thrones-star-dublin-losing-the-web-summit-is-an-embarrassment-34166473.html

    He calls the government dumb, says they probably can't even turn on a mobile phone and then goes on to call the web summit a diamond and says it's important "to the world"...

    facepalm!

    Actors shouldn't comment on anything ever.


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