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Woman lusts over "legal" Brooklyn Beckham

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  • #32
    osarusan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,009 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Some people think it is parody - I think it might be (although it's not obvious at all to me what it is supposed to be about, or what point it is supposed to make).

    Mostly, I think it's probably the worst single article I've ever read anywhere.


  • #33
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Aside from the fact that the writer is trolling which a few of the posters noticed, this I've quoted above has made a complete mockery of all of the "if the genders were reversed there'd be a knock at the door" type posts. It's like some of you have had your heads in the sand for decades. Leering over underage girls in the media has been common place for a long time. Emma Watson like Conor says, Charlotte Church was another. As a previous poster said "barely legal" and "teen" are extremely common categories on porn sites. I've really no idea why anyone would think that this doesn't happen to young girls/women particularly when that entire article was written to parody that phenomenon.

    There is a small but quite determined element on boards.ie that is hypersensitive to double-standards against men, so much so that they imagine double standards where there are none. Or where the double standard actually runs contrary to what they claim.


  • #34
    kylith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    No, the optimum age would be the late teenage years, as the child-bearing hips have developed. A girl might hit puberty much younger her body isn't really ready to bear a child physically.

    Yep. Girls hit puberty younger now than they used to.


  • #35
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Celeb gossip ****e.


  • #36
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    This is one of those articles where you'll never really know what the author meant. A backlash and she'll say "I was trolling... It was a parody piece... Didn't you realise that?" but if praised and anyone objects she'll say "He's legal, what's the problem?"


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  • #37
    Medusa22
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭Medusa22


    I couldn't find anything remotely attractive about him, he looks like a baby to me, I'm definitely getting old.


  • #38
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Medusa22 wrote: »
    I couldn't find anything remotely attractive about him, he looks like a baby to me, I'm definitely getting old.
    He's the definition of 'generic'. You'd find dozens of guys that look exactly like him at any teenage disco.


  • #39
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    smash wrote: »
    He's the definition of 'generic'. You'd find dozens of guys that look exactly like him at any teenage disco.


    Do say.


  • #40
    Aurum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭Aurum


    Mother Brain wrote: »
    Also, from a purely biological perspective, I would argue that this is totally explainable by virtue of the fact that there is an almost linear decrease in fertility amongst females from puberty onwards. As a purely animal instinct, barely legal represents the best possible mating strategy for a male to pursue, in the sense that if you get a mate at peak fertility you not only have a good chance of impregnating her, but that you would also have many more chances over the years before she becomes infertile.

    That's definitely not the case. A woman's peak fertility age is early to mid twenties. I always find it disturbing when people suggest that "Well of course men fancy 13/14/15 year olds, they're the most fertile". No, they aren't. It's potentially very damaging for a girl who is still physically growing to go through pregnancy, it puts a huge strain on a woman's body. Also, puberty starts for the majority of girls when they're still in primary school, are you really suggesting that they're "at peak fertility"?


  • #41
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,799 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    osarusan wrote: »
    Some people think it is parody - I think it might be (although it's not obvious at all to me what it is supposed to be about, or what point it is supposed to make).

    Mostly, I think it's probably the worst single article I've ever read anywhere.

    I don't think it's a parady myself - if it is, it's unintentional.

    What it is is a teenager being obsessed over by someone who hasn't passed that developmental stage (mentally) herself. As I said above, it's the hallmark of celeb worship and indeed social media as a whole.

    The nonsense that passes for content on Facebook, celeb magazines and the likes used to be bearable when it was confined to just those outlets but when you have formerly legitimate news outlets posting such shyte as headline/breaking news there's now no escaping it. With the decline of print media (which had a physical limit to the amount of column inches that could be devoted to such waffle) in favour of unlimited page space on websites, the amount of this "news" has increased expotentially.

    Modern Western society has become a dumbed-down, validation-seeking farce in a lot of ways with grown adults more obsessed with the latest status updates from their "friends" on Facebook or Twitter than what's actually happening in the real world around them. That's bad enough, but when this then progresses into the whole thing of opinions that don't conform to the consensus being shouted down, or allowing this ill-informed group-think to influence policy (such as the current "refugee" crisis in Europe) then it actually becomes dangerous.


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  • #42
    cowboyBuilder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    Aurum wrote: »
    That's definitely not the case. A woman's peak fertility age is early to mid twenties. I always find it disturbing when people suggest that "Well of course men fancy 13/14/15 year olds, they're the most fertile". No, they aren't. It's potentially very damaging for a girl who is still physically growing to go through pregnancy, it puts a huge strain on a woman's body. Also, puberty starts for the majority of girls when they're still in primary school, are you really suggesting that they're "at peak fertility"?


    I allready regret posting now, I knew people would get the wrong idea.


  • #43
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    Medusa22 wrote: »
    I couldn't find anything remotely attractive about him, he looks like a baby to me, I'm definitely getting old.

    He's an ordinary looking guy who is very, very lucky!


  • #44
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    Aurum wrote: »
    Also, puberty starts for the majority of girls when they're still in primary school, are you really suggesting that they're "at peak fertility"?

    The creepy "If there's grass on the pitch, play ball" -erm, I had grass on the pitch when I was eleven! :eek:


  • #45
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    I allready regret posting now, I knew people would get the wrong idea.

    You said:
    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    From an animal instinct it makes sense as soon as she reaches puberty ..
    but society doesn't like to admit this.

    Puberty starts long before a woman's body is optimally ready to carry a baby. A body that is optimally ready to carry a child is also the one that will be most attractive to men.


  • #46
    Azalea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭Azalea


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    I don't think it's a parady myself - if it is, it's unintentional.

    What it is is a teenager being obsessed over by someone who hasn't passed that developmental stage (mentally) herself. As I said above, it's the hallmark of celeb worship and indeed social media as a whole.

    The nonsense that passes for content on Facebook, celeb magazines and the likes used to be bearable when it was confined to just those outlets but when you have formerly legitimate news outlets posting such shyte as headline/breaking news there's now no escaping it. With the decline of print media (which had a physical limit to the amount of column inches that could be devoted to such waffle) in favour of unlimited page space on websites, the amount of this "news" has increased expotentially.

    Modern Western society has become a dumbed-down, validation-seeking farce in a lot of ways with grown adults more obsessed with the latest status updates from their "friends" on Facebook or Twitter than what's actually happening in the real world around them. That's bad enough, but when this then progresses into the whole thing of opinions that don't conform to the consensus being shouted down, or allowing this ill-informed group-think to influence policy (such as the current "refugee" crisis in Europe) then it actually becomes dangerous.
    You can't see anything at all parody-esque about it? Even the multiple choice birthday party question?

    I think it's not only a parody of the reverse gender scenario - the "Hot. Ready. Legal." bit especially - but also poking fun at teenage girls.

    He's a nice looking lad in my opinion - not "hot", because he's a young boy. But he would be hot to girls his age.

    I don't think not finding him hot means you're getting old, it just means he's too young.


  • #47
    Mother Brain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 255 ✭✭Mother Brain


    Aurum wrote: »
    That's definitely not the case. A woman's peak fertility age is early to mid twenties. I always find it disturbing when people suggest that "Well of course men fancy 13/14/15 year olds, they're the most fertile". No, they aren't. It's potentially very damaging for a girl who is still physically growing to go through pregnancy, it puts a huge strain on a woman's body. Also, puberty starts for the majority of girls when they're still in primary school, are you really suggesting that they're "at peak fertility"?

    Fair point. :)


  • #48
    cowboyBuilder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    OK before this thread gets out of hand.

    Can I just say that I DON'T subscribe to this, my original post fair enough I take back
    perhaps it's not the most fertile time in a females life.
    My point is men from a physical point of view will find girls attractive from 13-14 (depending on when they are most developed).

    Its not like

    She's 14 0% attractive
    She's 15 0% attractive
    She's 16 0% attractive
    She's 17 0% attractive
    She's 17 + 364 days 0% attractive
    She's 18 - 100% she's FAIR GAME!!!

    Before people start saying I'm some creepy oulfella lusting after teens - I'm not, I think ACTING on these urges is completely wrong - in fact I'd have serious reservations on say a 30 year old making advances on an 18-20 year old, but there ya go - this seems perfectly acceptable in our society.

    Yet a 20 year old man who is with a 17 year old girl is labelled a peadophile.


  • #49
    Conall Cernach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,998 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    The legal age of consent here in Ireland is 17 so if there are any Irish women (I presume the writer of the article is British) out there that fancy Brooklyn Beckham then they are on dodgy ground. I certainly wouldn't go around announcing it to all and sundry in a magazine article.


  • #50
    osarusan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,009 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    My point is men from a physical point of view will find girls attractive from 13-14 (depending on when they are most developed).
    Speak for yourself there pal.


  • #51
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Young mothers are at increased risk of problems in pregnancy, premature birth, birth complications etc. Anyone who thinks that young teens are physically ready to have kids is mistaken. And that's before you consider the social and psychological implications.


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  • #52
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    My point is men from a physical point of view will find girls attractive from 13-14 (depending on when they are most developed).
    ehhh.... no!
    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    Before people start saying I'm some creepy oulfella lusting after teens - I'm not, I think ACTING on these urges is completely wrong - in fact I'd have serious reservations on say a 30 year old making advances on an 18-20 year old, but there ya go - this seems perfectly acceptable in our society.
    What 'urges'? You're not doing a good job of making yourself un-creepy.
    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    Yet a 20 year old man who is with a 17 year old girl is labelled a peadophile.
    No he's not. 17 is the legal age of consent in Ireland.


  • #53
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    My point is men from a physical point of view will find girls attractive from 13-14 (depending on when they are most developed).

    Nah, most 13 and 14 year old girls don't have the filled out hips that give the optimally attractive waist hip ratio. Most 15 year olds won't either for that matter and some 16 year olds won't.
    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    Yet a 20 year old man who is with a 17 year old girl is labelled a peadophile.

    This is so untrue. Firstly the legal age is 17 in Ireland. Secondly, I've known happy couples of the above age gap to exist in my own spheres. 17 and 20 is fine.


  • #54
    cowboyBuilder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    smash wrote: »
    ehhh.... no!


    What 'urges'? You're not doing a good job of making yourself un-creepy.


    No he's not. 17 is the legal age of consent in Ireland.

    Not urges, sorry ... Opinions!!

    I think the legal age of consent is 18 in Ireland if one party is over 18


  • #55
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    Not urges, sorry ... Opinions!!

    I think the legal age of consent is 18 in Ireland if one party is over 18

    No it's 17 regardless


  • #56
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    When Charlotte Church got awarded with rear of the year at 16, there was a lot of uproar over sexualising her at such a young age. No one was bothered much with who ever the person was that nominated her, short listed her or even awarded her.

    Whoever this writer is, any traffic driven to the article is going to be flash in the pan. It'll be forgotten who wrote it along with who published it. And end up just being, oh that time that young fella was presented sexually because he was 16.


  • #57
    cowboyBuilder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    eviltwin wrote: »
    No it's 17 regardless


    Part of my point, thats totally wrong.


  • #58
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,304 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Jesus Christ, even when the article is written by a woman, about a male teenage celebrity... somehow, somehow...

    The conversation still veers around to analysing women to the nth degree and taking about optimal age for pregnancy? :confused:


  • #59
    Azalea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭Azalea


    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    Yet a 20 year old man who is with a 17 year old girl is labelled a peadophile.
    He is? Only by idiots if it happens.
    Conall Cernach wrote: »
    The legal age of consent here in Ireland is 17 so if there are any Irish women (I presume the writer of the article is British) out there that fancy Brooklyn Beckham then they are on dodgy ground. I certainly wouldn't go around announcing it to all and sundry in a magazine article.
    You won't get in trouble for fancying someone.


  • #60
    cowboyBuilder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    smash wrote: »
    ehhh.... no!


    What 'urges'? You're not doing a good job of making yourself un-creepy.


    Sorry
    Can I just say that I DON'T subscribe to this, my original post fair enough I take back
    perhaps it's not the most fertile time in a females life.
    I think ACTING on these urges is completely wrong

    Urges is the wrong word, sounds like inside one wants to act on them
    but is forcing himself to stop.

    I dont mean this, like I said before if you replace the word 'urges' with 'opinions' , I think it sounds better.


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  • #61
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    thee glitz wrote: »
    You have my sympathy if you really think that.
    As above, what do you think the reaction would be if the sexes were the opposite?

    It happens all the time in the opposite direction. I remember so much of it about the Olsen Twins, Emma Watson, etc. You maybe didn't notice it because it's so ubiquitous.

    Still creepy as hell though, in either gender.


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