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Greengrass1 · 13-10-2015 07:42PM

freedominacup wrote: »

More like 500 tonne gg. 650×4×0.1 gives you 260 cube. Two tonnes per cube approx.

Feck. There goes our idea of doing that 650m while we were at it

frazzledhome · 13-10-2015 08:37PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Would 650m x 4m x 4 inch be the right equation.
Giving me an answer if 94t?

€6500

Dawggone · 13-10-2015 09:48PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=F5i8CudktNg

Just to lighten the mood

Pure class. French arrogance...:) hehe!

Greengrass1 · 14-10-2015 09:08AM

No more 6 wk dry offs here.
Going to be at least 8 wks.
Dried off the winter milkers for 6 wks based 9n there calving dates. Some have calved early and milk going down the drain for 14 days.
Going to see can we use a different dry cow too. 96 hr withdrawal period on one were using atm

whelan2 · 14-10-2015 09:12AM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

No more 6 wk dry offs here.
Going to be at least 8 wks.
Dried off the winter milkers for 6 wks based 9n there calving dates. Some have calved early and milk going down the drain for 14 days.
Going to see can we use a different dry cow too. 96 hr withdrawal period on one were using atm

test the milk at 48 hours.

Greengrass1 · 14-10-2015 09:20AM

whelan2 wrote: »

test the milk at 48 hours.

We do but still 4 days after calving most are clear

whelan2 · 14-10-2015 09:28AM

second last cow calved, she was one that the ai man couldnt serve. Bull put her in calf. Cows wouldnt come in out of paddock, wouldnt go into parlour and stood in yard after milking, too full. Not a bad complaint in the middle of October

Milked out · 14-10-2015 09:41AM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

No more 6 wk dry offs here.
Going to be at least 8 wks.
Dried off the winter milkers for 6 wks based 9n there calving dates. Some have calved early and milk going down the drain for 14 days.
Going to see can we use a different dry cow too. 96 hr withdrawal period on one were using atm

Cephaguard, 36 days dry plus one day after calving I think, over 8 euro a cow from our vet

mahoney_j · 14-10-2015 09:41AM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

No more 6 wk dry offs here.
Going to be at least 8 wks.
Dried off the winter milkers for 6 wks based 9n there calving dates. Some have calved early and milk going down the drain for 14 days.
Going to see can we use a different dry cow too. 96 hr withdrawal period on one were using atm

Ubro red ,35 day withdrawl.

whelan2 · 14-10-2015 09:50AM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Ubro red ,35 day withdrawl.

Plus 4 days?

Cow Porter · 14-10-2015 09:59AM

Don't fancy using short acting on whole herd, especially if they will be dry 8 weeks anyway, cepravin is 54 days plus 96 hours

Greengrass1 · 14-10-2015 10:13AM

Getting the sensitivity test done to see what tubes suit what cows need.
Using orbenin atm that's whats recommended for us but got a few more cows with mastitis mid season this yr than last.
Don't know if that's anything to do with dry cow tubes or not.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 14-10-2015 10:24AM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I stepped the road from yard to end of road were doing atm.
650m at 4m wide.
Anyone hazard a guess what it'll cost to cap it with 804? 9e ex vat.
I reckon 4,500 - 5k to cover it plus cost of digger for 2 days

A neighbour, when I was asking him about the farm road he had put in, said that a farm road is like marriage.....you have to put a good bit of time, effort and money into them each year or you'll find you are going nowhere fast:)

Timmaay · 14-10-2015 11:10AM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Getting the sensitivity test done to see what tubes suit what cows need.
Using orbenin atm that's whats recommended for us but got a few more cows with mastitis mid season this yr than last.
Don't know if that's anything to do with dry cow tubes or not.

Going to try just sealers on some of the low SCC young cows.

frazzledhome · 14-10-2015 12:06PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

No more 6 wk dry offs here.
Going to be at least 8 wks.
Dried off the winter milkers for 6 wks based 9n there calving dates. Some have calved early and milk going down the drain for 14 days.
Going to see can we use a different dry cow too. 96 hr withdrawal period on one were using atm

Buy a Charm test kit. 3 minute test. 3 cows calved yesterday passed test this am. Won't tank them yet as milk needed for calves.

Greengrass1 · 14-10-2015 03:16PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

Buy a Charm test kit. 3 minute test. 3 cows calved yesterday passed test this am. Won't tank them yet as milk needed for calves.

Have a delve one here. Bloody yoke takes 3 hrs. Daf not keen to change it cause he paid 400 plus for it a few yr ago

whelan2 · 14-10-2015 03:25PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Have a delve one here. Bloody yoke takes 3 hrs. Daf not keen to change it cause he paid 400 plus for it a few yr ago

send sample with the milkman

Greengrass1 · 14-10-2015 03:49PM

whelan2 wrote: »

send sample with the milkman

At 3am?
Ah no test we have I'd grand if only it were quicker you could find out before you milk her if she can go in tank

frazzledhome · 14-10-2015 04:53PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

At 3am?
Ah no test we have I'd grand if only it were quicker you could find out before you milk her if she can go in tank

Take Delvo to the haggard and drive over it. Buy a Charm and be done with it

stretch film · 14-10-2015 04:58PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

Take Delvo to the haggard and drive over it. Buy a Charm and be done with it

GG
Keep delvo and for the rare occasion you cant wait keep some snap tests ( 6minutes) in the fridge.

Milked out · 14-10-2015 07:10PM

3 bull calves today, 2 heifers out of 8 so far one of which is not long for this world unfortunately. On plus side first go that calved had a heat ten days after calving so hopefully the rest would follow in that vein

Greengrass1 · 14-10-2015 07:27PM

Milked out wrote: »

3 bull calves today, 2 heifers out of 8 so far one of which is not long for this world unfortunately. On plus side first go that calved had a heat ten days after calving so hopefully the rest would follow in that vein

Talking to aidan lawless today from johnstown. They have just over 30/40 + calved. Very poor heifer to bull ratio too.
We've only had 6 here put of 20

Milked out · 14-10-2015 07:39PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Talking to aidan lawless today from johnstown. They have just over 30/40 + calved. Very poor heifer to bull ratio too.
We've only had 6 here put of 20

We had a good run the last few years plenty replacements so prob due a run of early bulls, plus side being in 2 weeks there will b less calves to rear

whelan2 · 14-10-2015 07:42PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Talking to aidan lawless today from johnstown. They have just over 30/40 + calved. Very poor heifer to bull ratio too.
We've only had 6 here put of 20

14 fr heifers out of 33 so far and 8 of those 33 were in calf to angus:)

kowtow · 14-10-2015 08:36PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote:

A neighbour, when I was asking him about the farm road he had put in, said that a farm road is like marriage.....

When it turns to sh** only a damn big track machine will sort it?

awaywithyou · 14-10-2015 09:45PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Talking to aidan lawless today from johnstown. They have just over 30/40 + calved. Very poor heifer to bull ratio too.
We've only had 6 here put of 20

Opposite here... 88% heifers... All AI.... Has quietened the oul lad something serious.... He always giving out that all you'll get from using AI is bull calves...!!

alps · 14-10-2015 10:25PM

Did a bit of an excersise a number of years back, and when AI ing cows kept records of the insimination timings relative to the onset of heat. Only the timings I would be certain of would be recorded.
If for example a cow began to show heat at lunch time and was ai'd after evening milking she was recorded as early, if that same cow was left till the following morning she was recorded as late.
Over 3 years early insimination returned 7 heifers to 3 bulls , and late insimination returned 2 heifers to 9 bulls.
The late insimination s was very significant.
I had a bit of a discussion with an AI co who said that there would be some science to back up the theory, but as you can understand, the AI companies could not provide the service required to satisfy farmers if they all wanted early insims.
We normally run at 63% consenting rate but you will risk running slightly less for early insims. It's worth it for the first 3 weeks of ai though.

3 the square · 14-10-2015 10:32PM

alps wrote: »

Did a bit of an excersise a number of years back, and when AI ing cows kept records of the insimination timings relative to the onset of heat. Only the timings I would be certain of would be recorded.
If for example a cow began to show heat at lunch time and was ai'd after evening milking she was recorded as early, if that same cow was left till the following morning she was recorded as late.
Over 3 years early insimination returned 7 heifers to 3 bulls , and late insimination returned 2 heifers to 9 bulls.
The late insimination s was very significant.
I had a bit of a discussion with an AI co who said that there would be some science to back up the theory, but as you can understand, the AI companies could not provide the service required to satisfy farmers if they all wanted early insims.
We normally run at 63% consenting rate but you will risk running slightly less for early insims. It's worth it for the first 3 weeks of ai though.

u wood think on that finding that u wood have all heifers from the stock bull and he up first chance he gets

alps · 14-10-2015 10:38PM

3 the square wrote: »

u wood think on that finding that u wood have all heifers from the stock bull and he up first chance he gets

And some have far better ratios from the stock bull. If you are ai ing however you deposit the semen in or beyond the cervix, which is ahead of where the bull deposits.
I have in many cases ai'd against the bull with another breed and have "beaten" him at times. Always ai late against the bull.
In fact if you are ai ing a cow twice, do her with a dairy straw early and a BB straw late......then you'll be winning. .ha

blue5000 · 15-10-2015 10:26AM

alps wrote: »

Did a bit of an excersise a number of years back, and when AI ing cows kept records of the insimination timings relative to the onset of heat. Only the timings I would be certain of would be recorded.
If for example a cow began to show heat at lunch time and was ai'd after evening milking she was recorded as early, if that same cow was left till the following morning she was recorded as late.
Over 3 years early insimination returned 7 heifers to 3 bulls , and late insimination returned 2 heifers to 9 bulls.
The late insimination s was very significant.
I had a bit of a discussion with an AI co who said that there would be some science to back up the theory, but as you can understand, the AI companies could not provide the service required to satisfy farmers if they all wanted early insims.
We normally run at 63% consenting rate but you will risk running slightly less for early insims. It's worth it for the first 3 weeks of ai though.

NZ lads knew that 20 years ago, can't really blame ai companies for sitting on it though.

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