Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

Turtyturd · 05-10-2015 02:11PM

'Last post by Pilsbury Doughboy'.

Magico Gonzalez · 05-10-2015 02:15PM

A large section of our fans cannot look forward, only backwards. The only people that should working for the club are those qualified to be in their positions. If an ex-player has something to offer, great, if they don't they have no business about the place.

We do seem to have a lot of ex-players with an awful lot to say, most who have done very little in the game other than media work since they hung up their boots. They aren't the custodians of the club, no ex-player is bigger than the club.

Would Shankly have put up with ex-players giving it millions in the press? I think not.

I hope the new man in clears house of the hangers on. If you want to be at this club you work for it. I hope we look forward. We have failed over the last 25 years. Failed to win a league. It hasn't work. We made a complete mess of using our dominance to lay down solid foundations for the club, from the 90s on. One Champions League in all that time doesn't make all the rest of the pain go away either. League cups are a footnote, FA Cups are a not much more. The league and the champions league are the benchmarks for success, and by those benchmarks we have consistently come up short over multiple decades, so can we stop pretending we had it all sorted only for the wrong guy to get sacked or appointed, it is the fcking definition of the myopic, backward looking nonsense that we get mocked for.

Please god, some come in and move this club on. Let the past be a nice story for the LFC museum. The first person that compares the new boss to Dalglish or Benitez should hang their head in shame.

Magico Gonzalez · 05-10-2015 02:20PM

ps...this, written by 4-4-2 about Klopp would have me worried frankly. I think his success has been contained to one club over a short period of time.

"Initially a 4-2-3-1 man, Klopp later experimented with 4-3-3 and 4-3-1-2, and occasionally switched between a four- and a three-man defence. Sometimes, it felt like he changed too much, too often, and questions must be asked about Klopp’s expertise in the transfer market too – Robert Lewandowski’s replacements simply weren’t up to it.

4-3-3 ! ...couldnt replace the big players who left. Sound like anyone ???

Ancelotti's CV is another kettle of fish altogether.

jpboard1 · 05-10-2015 02:21PM

Klopp would suit the club better. He was successful at more than one club. I get the feeling ancelotti would be easier to convince though.

monkey9 · 05-10-2015 02:25PM

Yeah I definitely would have doubts about Klopp myself. But I'd still be happy if he was appointed and would be excited to see how he got on.

Speak Now · 05-10-2015 02:26PM

Streetwalker wrote: »

So whilst we are waiting for the replacement to be announced who would people least like to see get the job. My top/bottom three would be

Moyes
Pardew
Monk

Allardyce!

whatawaster · 05-10-2015 02:27PM

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

ps...this, written by 4-4-2 about Klopp would have me worried frankly. I think his success has been contained to one club over a short period of time.

"Initially a 4-2-3-1 man, Klopp later experimented with 4-3-3 and 4-3-1-2, and occasionally switched between a four- and a three-man defence. Sometimes, it felt like he changed too much, too often, and questions must be asked about Klopp’s expertise in the transfer market too – Robert Lewandowski’s replacements simply weren’t up to it.

4-3-3 ! ...couldnt replace the big players who left. Sound like anyone ???

Ancelotti's CV is another kettle of fish altogether.

Klopp was not in charge of transfers at Dortmund as far as I know.

Which is a pity, because they were pretty good in the transfer market

jpboard1 · 05-10-2015 02:28PM

monkey9 wrote: »

Yeah I definitely would have doubts about Klopp myself. But I'd still be happy if he was appointed and would be excited to see how he got on.

Why would you have doubts?

monkey9 · 05-10-2015 02:35PM

jpboard1 wrote: »

Why would you have doubts?

His last season would be a worry for me. I mean, Dortmund were down in the relegation zone til about Feb of that season. Now in fairness, they got it together and I think finished seventh.

I think he's a gamble (I suppose most appointments are) and not a surefire thing. It's still an appointment I'd get behind though.

jpboard1 · 05-10-2015 02:37PM

monkey9 wrote: »

His last season would be a worry for me. I mean, Dortmund were down in the relegation zone til about Feb of that season. Now in fairness, they got it together and I think finished seventh.

I think he's a gamble (I suppose most appointments are) and not a surefire thing. It's still an appointment I'd get behind though.

Yeah, his last season there wasn't great but I don't really know enough about it. I think he may have lost good player (lewan etc)?

Its probably telling that the fans still loved him ?

murpho999 · 05-10-2015 02:37PM

whatawaster wrote: »

Klopp was not in charge of transfers at Dortmund as far as I know.

Which is a pity, because they were pretty good in the transfer market

This a key issue in my opinion. I think any manager, not matter how good is going to be hampered by the current transfer policy.

I think we need a structural change but would Klopp be good in transfer market if left to his own judgement?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 05-10-2015 02:38PM

monkey9 wrote: »

His last season would be a worry for me. I mean, Dortmund were down in the relegation zone til about Feb of that season. Now in fairness, they got it together and I think finished seventh.

I think he's a gamble (I suppose most appointments are) and not a surefire thing. It's still an appointment I'd get behind though.

He kept losing his best players at Dortmund. I may be wrong but, if he's successful, he'd find it easier to hang onto players here.

5starpool · 05-10-2015 02:39PM

Boards seems to be mostly fixed. Rejoice!

ricero · 05-10-2015 02:39PM

looking at the squad i think its in healthy shape. attacking wise i think were fine. who ever gets the job i think needs to go out and buy a quality cb, upgrade on lucas and deep lying play maker.

martyos121 · 05-10-2015 02:40PM

5starpool wrote: »

Boards seems to be mostly fixed. Rejoice!

Thank God for that, I was running out of things to say about the 04/05 season.

:pac:

JohnDaniels · 05-10-2015 02:41PM

@AnfieldHQ: I'd expect an announcement from FSG towards the end of this week, early next week at the latest. #lfc (James Pearce)

K-9 · 05-10-2015 02:44PM

The 2 league titles and CL final were pretty good in fairness, and done from a weak enough budget compared to others. Its more comparable than Ancelotti, not writing his achievements off but he didn't have the sane limits to deal with at Real, PSG or Chelsea.

rob316 · 05-10-2015 02:44PM

JohnDaniels wrote: »

@AnfieldHQ: I'd expect an announcement from FSG towards the end of this week, early next week at the latest. #lfc (James Pearce)

Uggh the next week will be pure torture, waiting for it to happen only for Chelsea to sack Jose and snap up Klopp...de ja ****ing vu.

jpboard1 · 05-10-2015 02:47PM

5starpool wrote: »

Boards seems to be mostly fixed. Rejoice!

Don't think so...

martyos121 · 05-10-2015 02:50PM

rob316 wrote: »

Uggh the next week will be pure torture, waiting for it to happen only for Chelsea to sack Jose and snap up Klopp...de ja ****ing vu.

Fcuking Willian. We'd have won the league that season only for him being stolen from us.

brevity · 05-10-2015 02:50PM

Hopefully there is an announcement sooner that what Pearce has said...I couldn't deal with the waiting.

billymitchell · 05-10-2015 02:57PM

monkey9 wrote: »

His last season would be a worry for me. I mean, Dortmund were down in the relegation zone til about Feb of that season. Now in fairness, they got it together and I think finished seventh.

I think he's a gamble (I suppose most appointments are) and not a surefire thing. It's still an appointment I'd get behind though.

I have it in my head that Dortmund had a massive injury crisis at the start of that season, missing practically half their big name players, and that was part of the reason they were down in the doldrums. Not sure where I am getting that from!

OwaynOTT · 05-10-2015 02:58PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I've seen George Costanza more times in the last few hours than I did in the whole 10 years of Seinfeld.

Can't stands ya

DeclanRe · 05-10-2015 02:58PM

Would you guys be annoyed if ye get Klopp, but the transfer committee remains?
How much input did Rodgers have into all the spending?

jpboard1 · 05-10-2015 03:03PM

DeclanRe wrote: »

Would you guys be annoyed if ye get Klopp, but the transfer committee remains?
How much input did Rodgers have into all the spending?

I think he has worked under that system previously. Also, the manager is a member of the transfer committee so they do have input.

martyos121 · 05-10-2015 03:06PM

DeclanRe wrote: »

Would you guys be annoyed if ye get Klopp, but the transfer committee remains?
How much input did Rodgers have into all the spending?

The transfer committee were the ones who made the GOOD signings, people shouldn't ignore this.

It was the Rodgers signings which cost him his job ironically.

jpboard1 · 05-10-2015 03:09PM

martyos121 wrote: »

The transfer committee were the ones who made the GOOD signings, people shouldn't ignore this.

It was the Rodgers signings which cost him his job ironically.

How do you know which were which?

DeclanRe · 05-10-2015 03:10PM

martyos121 wrote: »

The transfer committee were the ones who made the GOOD signings, people shouldn't ignore this.

It was the Rodgers signings which cost him his job ironically.

I though Rodgers was one of the people who didn't want Balotelli for example, didn't he even say that at some point. I could have picked that up wrong though

JohnDaniels · 05-10-2015 03:11PM

Long time poster on rawk.

Hij wrote:

Mate who works at LFCTV doing prep around Klopp today. Says word in the office is it's essentially a done deal.

Bandana boy · 05-10-2015 03:13PM

I honestly know very little about Klopp .

He as a person seems very charismatic and entertaining
I am a little worried though by a few details

I have heard him refers to Jebus quite a bit , not a big fan of mentioning religion in football.
I don't remember to much of his march to the CL final a couple of seasons back ,but I have in my head they played a very direct football. Maybe somebody more knowledgeable here could talk about how his teams set up ? Do we have the players in our squad to play his brand of football ?
His CV at Dortmund seems to stall a little 2-3 seasons ago , is that the Bayern machine just getting it right or did their performances drop a level.

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