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DCM 2015: Mentored Novices Thread
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All in now?? Shop closed after this lot anyway
Mrs Mc......what a difference 365 days makes, eh? So fitting this 20 mile-stone was exactly one year later. Funny what life throws at you
You've been doing everything so well and it all paid off today. You have your routine down pat ...and the Mc beags well-trained too
Sounds like a very positive run alright, well done on leaving the negatives at home.
Solo is good, this is another aspect of your training (mental endurance) ticked off too.
Definitely try salt tabs on your next lsr (are you doing a PMP lsr too?). This run was really even splits too, all in all, I am raising my arms in the air for you too! :cool: Well done! Who'da thunk it when you started popping in to annapr's log earlier this year?!
colhandspan, well done on your first 20 miler! Your dog must be the fittest dog around But ffs, what a bloody idiot you had the misfortune to run into :mad: Hope all ok now and nothing worse than a bit of blood and bruise?!
....and yes, "you are a marathon runner"
TFGR, erratic pacing or not, at the end of the day, you covered the distance - and carrying Auntie Flo :eek: . You are another runner who has come such a long way and I mean more than just the miles covered....
You also learned a very valuable lesson about listening to your body and trusting your instinct. Better learned on Sunday than on the 26th.
Well done missus and hope the recovery is going well. What's planned for next weekend and when does taper start for you?
Jake1970, sounds like a well-executed trial, covering all aspects Nice session too after the lsr. It will stand to you - you've got the base to benefit from this type of training.
Thanks - on behalf of the team - for the kind words and yes, personally, I love love how this thread has grown all these communal legs and is just running towards that finish line
Hi Kennyg, nice run! Good that you were comfortable although I will lay odds that you won't be saying that next week?! :pac:
tempo run on plan for Thurs this week, then two days rest before LSR
Physio appoinment for general maintanance Thursday evening so hopefully
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But! I always intended to get a new pair of runners before October as me and my old pair never really felt like we were gelling (even tho we did cover about 800k together). So I made my way into AK Bray (armed with a voucher the OH had won during a local race) and got a lovely shiny red pair of Mizuno's which looks like it might be my pair for the big day. At least I'll be recognizable on the pictures.
Apologies for covering ground already covered, but what's the advice / consensus on changing shoe in lead up to the 26th - how much breaking in time are we looking at?
I am looking for a bit more arch support (currently in kayano 21s which are pretty supportive!) as on the lsr's I tend to feel some discomfort in the sole's0 -
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I'm on HHN1, so I'm doing my 20 mile lsr this w/e. I plan to cover the last 20 miles of DCM route (starting at the Castleknock gate).
I have no sense of direction and am a bit concerned that I'll go off route at some point. There's a 50/50 chance a mate of mine will be running with me, but if he's not, I may well end up in Donegal or West Cork (and yes, I am a Dub).
I was going to print off a map/directions & keep them in my running belt, but the official DCM map on the SSE website isn't very detailed. The DCM 2015 Strava map is excellent, but I can't print it off in the detail required to use for directions.
Any recommendations on how best to manage the logistics of the run to ensure I/we don't get lost?
I'm the same, last time I got lost running in South Dublin, the Gardai were involved!
Last week I printed off the DCM map, went to google maps, went to any junctions, street viewed them and then made notes on the DCM map of what to look out for. It worked really well except for one point but I think I was just talking too much and missed my turn.
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What Is Overhydration?
Nearly all the major systems of your body depend on water to work properly. Drinking plenty of water throughout the day aids in regulating body temperature, preventing constipation, flushing waste products out of the body, and many other important functions.
Most people, especially those who exercise in hot weather, are more concerned about not drinking enough water. However, overhydration—or drinking too much water—is also a potentially deadly condition, one that can throw off the balance between water and sodium in your blood.
Just thought that I would post on this one after the near miss my friend had at the DHM. I was speaking with him today (fine now BTW) and he told me that he took 3 full pints of water before the race and was 'weeing like a race horse' and that his wee was nearly clear (sorry for mental image). I then by chance received a call for one of the DHM race directors following up on how my friend was and I told her about the 3 pints of water he had taken and and she reckons that there was a high chance that he over did it with water before the race and washed the salts and electrolytes out of his system before he even ran, hence the sudden crash!!
This would probably explain what happened as my friend said that his training went really well and although he doesn't really drink too much when running,he was shocked to crash too (hospital said that he had exhausted all electolytes in his blood). Last year on this thread another mentor posted that he had taken on way too much water in the days leading up to his first DCM and also had to pull out due to exhaustion halfway through.
Just a word of caution not to over do the whole water thing and flush yourself out before an LSR or in the days leading up to the DCM.
Any mentors (Clearlier et al??), have anything to add on this?
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What Is Overhydration?
Nearly all the major systems of your body depend on water to work properly. Drinking plenty of water throughout the day aids in regulating body temperature, preventing constipation, flushing waste products out of the body, and many other important functions.
Most people, especially those who exercise in hot weather, are more concerned about not drinking enough water. However, overhydration—or drinking too much water—is also a potentially deadly condition, one that can throw off the balance between water and sodium in your blood.
Just thought that I would post on this one after the near miss my friend had at the DHM. I was speaking with him today (fine now BTW) and he told me that he took 3 full pints of water before the race and was 'weeing like a race horse' and that his wee was nearly clear (sorry for mental image). I then by chance received a call for one of the DHM race directors following up on how my friend was and I told her about the 3 pints of water he had taken and and she reckons that there was a high chance that he over did it with water before the race and washed the salts and electrolytes out of his system before he even ran, hence the sudden crash!!
This would probably explain what happened as my friend said that his training went really well and although he doesn't really drink too much when running,he was shocked to crash too (hospital said that he had exhausted all electolytes in his blood). Last year on this thread another mentor posted that he had taken on way too much water in the days leading up to his first DCM and also had to pull out due to exhaustion halfway through.
Just a word of caution not to over do the whole water thing and flush yourself out before an LSR or in the days leading up to the DCM.
Any mentors (Clearlier et al??), have anything to add on this?
Smash.
Yes, I did in fact have an urge to say something when you posted initially about your friend saying that he probably collapsed due to dehydration, but I didn't think it was the time or place!
It's very unlikely that someone will have a fatal issue due to not drinking enough water. Many many more people have died due to drinking too much water and flushing out their salts (in fact I think that no-one has ever died in marathon due to dehydration).
There are many ways to make sure your salts are topped up. If having a pint of water the morning of a race/run, mix in a dioralyte sachet or an electrolyte tablet. Don't drink pint after pint of plain water.
On the race itself, drink to thirst and if possible try to keep salts topped up (especially if you sweat a lot). You can do this by taking a few salt tablets (s-caps), mixing an electrolyte tablet in your water or taking on the Lucozade sport as well as plain water. Most importantly however don't go into the race peeing like a hose pipe :pac:0 -
Hi DG, I didn't see a physio the first time I experienced shine splints as I knew that I was still a new runner back then and that they would pass after a bit of time on my foot ....... which they did after a few weeks.Hi BC1, sorry to hear this! I'd be inclined to rest today and see how you feel tomorrow. Push everything back a day so if the four miles goes ok tomorrow, try 6 on Wednesday. See physio on Thursday and reassess from there.
In the meantime, if the pain increases or doesn't go away while running, stop and go home. We can't really give more advice than that here. Listen to your body, it knows best
Did you see a physio for this in January? Best of luck and let us know how it goes!
The pain I was experiencing on Sunday night/Monday in my left leg felt a lot more then just standard shine splint pain.
So I rested yesterday and today it felt a lot better [not completely gone, but better]. I decided to gingerly head out this afternoon and see what I could manage. I took it very very slow and after the first mile the dull pain in my leg started to dissipate so I continued on and another mile down and the pain was almost completely gone. I ended up doing the full 8 mile run and did a LOT of stretching when I got home, so I'm felling a lot better about it now. Hopefully I will get some answers from the Physio on Thursday.
.... this episode has really brought it home to me that we are not home and dry yet and we all really need to take care over the next couple of weeks. The last thing anyone wants is for the wheels to fall off at this late stage.0 -
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