DCM 2015: Mentored Novices Thread

To get in before the DG gives her thoughts.......

a planned 20 miler LSR I went at at 11am this morn, from Dunboyne set off with the 0.5L of water and no gels/other shtuff. 1st mile good, miles 2-8 dealt with this new 'under the kneecap' pain I've had since the last run, random thing, comes and goes, if I eased off, it went, but it fought its way back 6-10 times.

So on past mile 8 and I was in the Phoenix Park headin up the Lwr Glen Rd and the fine fresh air of the PP must have done the trick but the knee pain faded and I was happy with the mantra 'run thru it' coz this time it had worked....

Up around the magazine and up past the papal cross and up to the monument in the middle of chesterfield ave (of course I had to go around it like Apollo 13 went around the moon hoping for the slingshot affect harhar, didnt happen

Anyway back out the Castleknock gate and out thru Roselawn Clonsilla Ongar and the backroad to Dunboyne and into the track for 800mtrs of bonus points just to make sure I was over the 20 miles.

Now after google mapping the thing it comes in at 22.25.............. so theres a high
Lows would be knee pains in both knees that I've not been getting up til this week, but hey you cant lie to a marathon

Time was 3hrs 20 mins for all of thats a flat 9 mins per mile, which compared to last week is good.

Thanks for reading, Jim.

I've got two small blisters on my toes, is it better to leave them or burst them?
Would runguard or bodyglide help to prevent them?

Hi guys, congrats on all the miles you've been logging. I've been following this thread with much interest for a good while now. I am hoping to do my first DCM next month. I have a nuisance injury that flares up for a few days after I run and I have only managed to do half the mileage on my program. I did 18.5 miles LSR this morning and I did 20 mile LSR last week and I have done a 15 and 16 miler previous to those runs. My problem is I am not able to build on this mileage during the week as my injury is too sore in the days after my LSR and it takes about a week to settle down again, just in time for my LSR the following week. I haven't paid my entry fee yet as I am worried that I haven't logged enough miles and I don't know what to do. Should I go for it?? Any advice much appreciated.

Kennyg71 wrote: »

Yeh would have liked to be there, GAA duty calls, tea and cake would have
Been better than 20 little head wreckers any day. You looked a bit lonlely
Alright, but good to get company at the end. Well done, only 2 more LSR
To go, don't think I'll do 22 next week, will probaly leave at 20. Especially
With pmp miles as well. Myself & E doing 20, but A reckons will do 22.

Some post by the way, that is why so late getting mine done, just finished
Reading yours, but an after noon well spent😋

I'm going to do the 22 on the plan think it will be good for my head to have that under my belt. Will have proper strategy chat with FBOT

Mrs Mc wrote: »

I'm going to do the 22 on the plan think it will be good for my head to have that under my belt. Will have proper strategy chat with FBOT

Think my head ok with it, not sure for me extra 2 will answer any more
Questions, was taking to someone who had done few Marathons & was
Well prepared and woke in hospital bed after passing 40k in race,So thinking
20-22 won't matter before DCM. As I said A, said he needs to get done for
Head, but think one of guys said while back training wise probably no
Real gains & have convinced myself way to go.

Let's know what FBOT thinks anyway.

Night night

coolhandspan wrote: »

Hi folks first ever 20 mile lsr done today along canal clonsilla to maynooth stretch.

As i passed the husky growled and lunged at me and my dog. Next thing i knew I was face down on gravel path cursing like a trooper. Got badly cut up. Fair bit of blood on knees elbows and hands. Thought DCM 2015 Dream was over, Eastern European Guy asked me if I was ok and said his dog has done this before to runners??:eek:.

thats outrageous coolhandspan, any other day of the week and you'd be looking for his details, just because this was on a canal bank and you were both walking your dogs in a quiet area doesnt mean he should think its ok that his dog knocked you down

on the run , i run that canal bank a good bit, do you find the unpaved stretches fairly rough? I find trying to run one foot in front of the other on a narrow muck track a bit of a challenge to not hurt something.......

Mrs Mc wrote: »

It's amazing the difference a day makes Emsy we've all had bad runs and I think the key learning message from here is just write it off as a bad run and focus on the next run. You got your 14 done so don't be too hard on yourself. Think the HM took a lot out of us all and various bugs going around too effecting our recovery.

Thanks Mrs mc , well done on your 20 miler today.. u northsiders are made of strong stuff

Just back from 8k this am. A spectacular morning to be out. I caught the end of the blood moon / eclipse & for added eeriness, there's was a low lying mist too.

First time out in new pair of runners. After the probs with the N880v5, I switched back to Nike Pegasus. This is my 3rd pair of Pegasus & I'll stick with them from now on.

This is my favourite take on a Marathon Exit Strategy courtesy of the bould Tommy Tiernan

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Well it's monday morning!

Havnt had a chance to login in all weekend. Really enjoyed the LSR on Saturday. Some nice conversation along the way. Great support from duff in Terenure!

I faded in the last 2-3 miles, pace dropped and was really tired but finished it so happy days!

JMSE wrote: »

Took two days rest myself since Thurs when I developed a new pain in the R knee, grew from nothin as I ran. Not sure what caused this, trying a few plantar stretches for the 1st time 45 mins pre run? or wearin knee length swimmin shorts which might have caused an irritation havent a clue. So for tomorrow its hit the road and hope to run 20m niggle free, worry free, head free, dog free, hill free, work free, tax free, hangover free, fly in the eye free, ebola free, pothole free, dead donkey free (that did happen), dangerous driver free, sugar free, chaff free, .... anything I missed ?

That would be a concern for me. As a pretty good general rule only do dynamic stretching before a run.

Phoole wrote: »

Looks like I'm not going to able to run the entire DCM. My training is going well but I just know the legs aren't going to be up for running the entire 42k. So do I run as far as I can (ie, 30-35k) and then struggle through the rest of it or do I walk a couple of kilometres every 10k or so to preserve my legs for the last stretch?

Thanks!

You could consider walking through/just after the water stations, it gives you a chance to take a drink, eat if you need to and it's an external goal which makes it a little easier - just make sure that you're not blocking anyone!

PJD wrote: »

I really enjoyed the LSR yesterday with Toulouse. I know its a bit late in the day for experimenting but I got really hungry during the run and was craving something crunchy like toast! Mad I know but there are only so many gels / sugars you can eat.... Anyone got any top tips for food on the go?? No power bars please - real / normal food- preferably something in a packet for convenience .... fig rolls are famous in cycling circles but hard work while running!

Anything that you can digest will work, toast would probably get a big soggy :P but I've eaten sandwiches on the run before.

runnerholic wrote: »

Thanks JMSE. I can afford the fee. I want to run the whole thing and do a time that I would consider respectable for me. But if I was unable to finish or posted a time way below my capabilities I would be devastated. So if I run I want to run well. Hope you can answer your own questions soon enough. Cheers.

I'd steer clear then runnerholic - back off now and start running as much as your body can handle without getting pain. Do some kind of cross training to build up your general body strength and slowly build up your capacity for training to the point where you can take on the training load required for a marathon that will do justice to your ability.

engol wrote: »

Can I jump in with a quick question (that I think I know the answer to).

Started running Christmas day 2014 (never ran before but always kept fit). Quickly worked my way to 10k easy, planned for the half last week, over the summer that was going well and I said I'd do a plan for the marathon and see how that went. Got to 28k 10 days before the half. Did the half in 1.58 and was delighted with that but had a niggle in my hip at the start line. Did a recovery on Wednesday that went very well but a 10k on Thursday has set me right the way back. My hip is sore since and yesterday I had pain under the arch of my foot.

Obviously my plan to do 30k this past weekend went out the window. My hip is STILL sore this morning - although definitely improved.

Am I out? Or can I rest up till the weekend and try to get the 30 done then?

I don't mind my time, would be happy enough to finish in 4.30 but don't mind at all if it takes 5 hours (would have been looking to do 4.10 earlier in my plan), I don't mind if I have to walk a little either, so long as I can finish it.

If it's a nay it's a nay but if it's still on, should I cross train this week with the elliptical trainer/rowing machine/bike/swim or does rest mean rest?

Thanks for help!

If it's not hurting you then it's probably fine to cross train but at this remove from the marathon you really should be going to see a professional at the earliest opportunity. You're not out of the marathon but you do need to get your niggles/injuries under control ASAP.

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

That was hilarious, thanks for making me laugh out loud at work on a Monday morning.

+1 I'm in stitches

Really enjoyed the LSR on Saturday. Thanks Deiego B and Nop98 for planning and to Neilthefunkeone for navigating. The chat was good and the time flew by.
Can't get over Duffer and his daughter with the fuel stop - unbelievable. Thanks. Great to run into Denis B and Feena M then at UCD, which meant we had the flapjacks to look forward to once back in the PP.
Was good to have the chats about the big day aswell as training stories. Advise from the pros - particularly about following the tapering down in the programme - I took a lot away with me. Thanks all.
This time 4 weeks we'll all be running!