Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

NukaCola · 28-09-2015 10:27AM

Mr.H wrote: »

Yet I have proven it :rolleyes:

In your own head.

Mr Alan · 28-09-2015 10:28AM

Mr.H wrote: »

Noone is re-writing history

Do you not think we havent played tough games already??

United and Arsenal both away

Stoke who are a good side who embarrassed us last year we have played away

Villa who are a bogey side we have also played

Do you not think we have played tough games so far???

We have played a couple of tough games. I'm not sure who is arguing that. I'm simply pointing out we've been ****e this season. Like piss poor.

Rodgers unwillingness to recognise that and eagerness to talk himself up again on the back of one semi-average performance sums up why he has to go. And why he will be gone soon enough.

Its common when a team play poorly that the manager concentrates on trying to sort out the team instead of talking to the media. Maybe he was giving them a boll9king for all we know. What ever he did they picked up their game the weekend.

It's not common for a supposedly top PL team to struggle badly against a league 2 side and then for the manager to dodge the press, that's not common at all.

Mr.H · 28-09-2015 10:31AM

NukaCola wrote: »

In your own head.

Well I have the facts down mate. Show me I am wrong. I have no issue with you thinking any different. I am just saying that this whole "Sturridge is injury prone" stuff is blown way out of proportion and is often exaggerated.

He missed 6 weeks of football in 4 years before joining us and almost half that is due to a virus.................. which is not an injury

Nerdlingr · 28-09-2015 10:35AM

I thought Lucas and Sakho were the cure to all our defensive ills???
Great to see Sturridge back and scoring but we're brittle as sh*te at the back.

5starpool · 28-09-2015 10:36AM

Mr.H wrote: »

Noone is re-writing history

Do you not think we havent played tough games already??

United and Arsenal both away

Stoke who are a good side who embarrassed us last year we have played away

Villa who are a bogey side we have also played

Do you not think we have played tough games so far???

Jebus West Ham have beaten ourselves, Arsenal and City all away

Its common when a team play poorly that the manager concentrates on trying to sort out the team instead of talking to the media. Maybe he was giving them a boll9king for all we know. What ever he did they picked up their game the weekend.

- We got 1 point from the games against Arsenal and Man U.
- Stoke got their first win of the season at the weekend. Tough place to go for us historically, but this season they have been awful.
- Villa are 3rd bottom, have won 1 game, played terribly on Saturday, yet we let them score twice against us.
- West Ham have some great away results, yes, but they are not a great team. It can possibly be put down to a freak result, but we were so abysmally bad in that game it was almost funny.

I hope we are here in January with you and the other positive guys essentially giving us the big "I told you so" as we sit in 3rd, 3 points off top or something. I doubt it will be the case though.

I essentially don't care what Rodgers says to the media, but it does seem more often than not that he does himself no favours in this regard. If we continue to do well with Sturridge back then that's good, although it does beg the question of over-reliance on him. If we can only play 2 up top with him in the team then thatis a failure by him or the club.

Tipsy McSwagger · 28-09-2015 10:37AM

Mr.H wrote: »

Well I have the facts down mate. Show me I am wrong. I have no issue with you thinking any different. I am just saying that this whole "Sturridge is injury prone" stuff is blown way out of proportion and is often exaggerated.

He missed 6 weeks of football in 4 years before joining us and almost half that is due to a virus.................. which is not an injury

Mr.H · 28-09-2015 10:37AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

We have played a couple of tough games. I'm not sure who is arguing that. I'm simply pointing out we've been ****e this season. Like piss poor.

Rodgers unwillingness to recognise that and eagerness to talk himself up again on the back of one semi-average performance sums up why he has to go. And why he will be gone soon enough.

While our backline did look shaky and we switched off at times, we were far better than "semi-average"

Jose is having a "piss poor" season and noone thinks he should go? Its because we are 7 games in....................

Rodgers was given a chance in the summer. So give him an actual chance and not jump on him after a bad result.

The only sh1t result was against West ham and they beat City and Arsenal away also.

United away............. so what that we lost. That happens and shouldnt be the "sacking result".

Bad performances .......... its the start of the season everyone plays bad until Octoberish.

The league cup game................ 50 off shots against a team that were fighting for their lives in their champions league final. It happens. We still won.

If in January we are nowhere near 4th he will go.

He is safe until then

Mr Alan wrote: »

It's not common for a supposedly top PL team to struggle badly against a league 2 side and then for the manager to dodge the press, that's not common at all.

Isnt it?? Fergie never did it? Rafa never did it? Jose? Wenger?

Boll9x mate

Harry Palmr · 28-09-2015 10:40AM

Nerdlingr wrote: »

I thought Lucas and Sakho were the cure to all our defensive ills???
Great to see Sturridge back and scoring but we're brittle as sh*te at the back.

I thought three CBs two wingbacks and a DM were meant to be the cure! Just goes to show that Rodgers tinkering by putting a midfielder in defence etc isn't addressing some basic issues of defending technique and strategies.

Mr Alan · 28-09-2015 10:47AM

Mr.H wrote: »

While our backline did look shaky and we switched off at times, we were far better than "semi-average"

Jose is having a "piss poor" season and noone thinks he should go? Its because we are 7 games in....................

Rodgers was given a chance in the summer. So give him an actual chance and not jump on him after a bad result.

The only sh1t result was against West ham and they beat City and Arsenal away also.

United away............. so what that we lost. That happens and shouldnt be the "sacking result".

Bad performances .......... its the start of the season everyone plays bad until Octoberish.

The league cup game................ 50 off shots against a team that were fighting for their lives in their champions league final. It happens. We still won.

If in January we are nowhere near 4th he will go.

He is safe until then

Isnt it?? Fergie never did it? Rafa never did it? Jose? Wenger?

Boll9x mate

Essentially, everything is rosey

:rolleyes:

God the sooner he is sacked so we don't have to put up with rubbish posts like the above, better for all concerned.

NukaCola · 28-09-2015 10:48AM

Mr.H wrote: »

Well I have the facts down mate. Show me I am wrong. I have no issue with you thinking any different. I am just saying that this whole "Sturridge is injury prone" stuff is blown way out of proportion and is often exaggerated.

He missed 6 weeks of football in 4 years before joining us and almost half that is due to a virus.................. which is not an injury

I suppose, I'd have to get your take on what you think injury prone is.

To me, a player missing 362 days of football and on average 20+ games a season in the last 3 years is injury prone.

OwaynOTT · 28-09-2015 10:49AM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

I think the positive we can take from that info-graphic, is, sure he's injury prone but it only seems to affect his legs.
Over 50% of his body for the majority of the time is fully 100% fit.

Mr.H · 28-09-2015 10:50AM

5starpool wrote: »

- We got 1 point from the games against Arsenal and Man U.
- Stoke got their first win of the season at the weekend. Tough place to go for us historically, but this season they have been awful.
- Villa are 3rd bottom, have won 1 game, played terribly on Saturday, yet we let them score twice against us.
- West Ham have some great away results, yes, but they are not a great team. It can possibly be put down to a freak result, but we were so abysmally bad in that game it was almost funny.

I hope we are here in January with you and the other positive guys essentially giving us the big "I told you so" as we sit in 3rd, 3 points off top or something. I doubt it will be the case though.

I essentially don't care what Rodgers says to the media, but it does seem more often than not that he does himself no favours in this regard. If we continue to do well with Sturridge back then that's good, although it does beg the question of over-reliance on him. If we can only play 2 up top with him in the team then thatis a failure by him or the club.

West ham are 3rd in the league and have played Liverpool Arsenal and City all away.

We have played tough games and at the start of the season we would have identified them as tough games. So regardless of form we are where we are and have these games done and dusted.

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Proves my point about exaggeration

His Hip/Tigh - lists
Feb 2013 twice for instance. It was actually a groin strain that kept him out for one match.
March 2013 - missed one match. He wasnt in the squad as he was rested along with few others for the game against Wigan. Wasnt injured. Played all through March.
May 2013 - he played every game................

That image is not accurate at all and is one of the things that best proves my point

(that image was on a dail mail article that also exaggerated how Injury prone he was prior to liverpool)

Tipsy McSwagger · 28-09-2015 10:51AM

OwaynOTT wrote: »

I think the positive we can take from that info-graphic, is, sure he's injury prone but it only seems to affect his legs.
Over 50% of his body for the majority of the time is fully 100% fit.

If you exclude his legs he's the fittest player in the premier League.

Caovyn Lineah · 28-09-2015 10:52AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Essentially, everything is rosey

:rolleyes:

God the sooner he is sacked so we don't have to put up with rubbish posts like the above, better for all concerned.

How did you manage to get off such a high horse when we finished 2nd in the league? It must have been some fall from grace and I'm annoyed I wasn't around to see it.

Mr.H · 28-09-2015 10:55AM

OwaynOTT wrote: »

I think the positive we can take from that info-graphic, is, sure he's injury prone but it only seems to affect his legs.
Over 50% of his body for the majority of the time is fully 100% fit.

The image was taken from the dailymail and is completely wrong

NukaCola wrote: »

I suppose, I'd have to get your take on what you think injury prone is.

To me, a player missing 362 days of football and on average 20+ games a season in the last 3 years is injury prone.

How many did he miss before he came to Liverpool??

He missed one full season last year and before that had the injuury record of any striker

Mr Alan wrote: »

Essentially, everything is rosey

:rolleyes:

God the sooner he is sacked so we don't have to put up with rubbish posts like the above, better for all concerned.

Please you only post when we are playing bad. The quicker we get into form and you f9ck off into your hide away the better.

Everything I said in my post is true. I am not claiming everything is rosey. I am pointing out that we played some tough games (on paper) and they are done with now.

Mr Alan · 28-09-2015 10:55AM

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

How did you manage to get off such a high horse when we finished 2nd in the league? It must have been some fall from grace and I'm annoyed I wasn't around to see it.

I got off it with ease - was delighted to be wrong

If I'm wrong, I'll say I'm wrong

I didn't think we could compete for anything with Rodgers at the helm. I was wrong and said as much. It transpired that a couple of world class players performing to a world class level could drag him along and nearly go the whole way

Let's see if you and your ilk will hold your hands up and admit yous were wrong when he's booted out on his arse and ends up managing the likes of West Brom for the remainder of his career

Mr.H · 28-09-2015 10:57AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

I got off it with ease - was delighted to be wrong

If I'm wrong, I'll say I'm wrong

I didn't think we could compete for anything with Rodgers at the helm. I was wrong and said as much. It transpired that a couple of world class players performing to a world class level could drag him along and nearly go the whole way

Let's see if you and your ilk will hold your hands up and admit yous were wrong when he's booted out on his arse and ends up managing the likes of West Brom for the remainder of his career

No you wont, Youll disappear so noone can call you out on it

Caovyn Lineah · 28-09-2015 10:59AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

I got off it with ease - was delighted to be wrong

If I'm wrong, I'll say I'm wrong

I didn't think we could compete for anything with Rodgers at the helm. I was wrong and said as much. It transpired that a couple of world class players performing to a world class level could drag him along and nearly go the whole way

Let's see if you and your ilk will hold your hands up and admit yous were wrong when he's booted out on his arse and ends up managing the likes of West Brom for the remainder of his career

So we win - you're delighted
We lose, manager is sacked - you're delighted.

That's a nice little scenario you've got going for yourself.

Tipsy McSwagger · 28-09-2015 10:59AM

Mr.H wrote: »

No you wont, Youll disappear so noone can call you out on it

He won't have to. Rodgers is starting to crack and will be sacked soon enough.

Mr.H · 28-09-2015 11:02AM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

He won't have to. Rodgers is starting to crack and will be sacked soon enough.

Rodgers aint going anywhere until at least the new year

Caovyn Lineah · 28-09-2015 11:04AM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

He won't have to. Rodgers is starting to crack and will be sacked soon enough.

You said that last week, wasn't he meant to be sacked on Friday morning?

dogbert27 · 28-09-2015 11:09AM

Mr.H wrote: »

This is another gripe. This is a lie that has started to become a "truth" around here.

Rodgers first season! Was that not him performing? Did he not do better than the previous manager?

Rodgers first season was a success considering the state of the team he took over.

What?!

He had the worst start to a Liverpool season since 1927.

The team he inherited had just got to an FA Cup final and won the league cup.

The team he inherited had beaten Arsenal in the league, Chelsea and Man City in the League Cup and Man United in the FA Cup. They could perform on their day.

Dalglish had us qualified for Europe.

Rodgers did better in the league by 3 wins but he got nowhere in the cups or Europe and didn't get us qualified for Europe.

How in the name of God is his first season considered a success??

It was not a successful season.

Agent Coulson · 28-09-2015 11:15AM

Mr.H wrote: »

Please you only post when we are playing bad.

The quicker we get into form and you f9ck off into your hide away the better.

Well we have been playing badly for over a year now!

Wow so now you are telling posters not to post because you don't agree with them posting about how badly we are playing.

I guess I didn't see the notice that Boards.ie had changed to Boards.NorthKorea

Luckycharms_74 · 28-09-2015 11:18AM

I read elsewhere online

Fine margins :cool:

wrote:

Whatever you think of Brendan, there are very fine lines that define how you are perceived.

For example, if Coutinho slots that chance against Norwich, or squares it and we score, we have 14 points and are in 3rd.

If one of those bar strikes or Cech’s mega save(s) don’t happen, we take 3 points at Arsenal and are top on 17.

Split second events – decision making, physical strikes of the ball, ref/lino calls, define outcomes.

Similarly, if Benteke’s goal v Stoke is called offside we draw and could be 2 points down (on 9), and also if Bournemouth’s goal is given we end up drawing that too and lose another 2….and are languishing on 7 points in 16th.

Small moments therefore being the difference between us being 1st and 16th. Small moments that – at the time they happen, on the pitch - the manager has no influence on. I know he influences other things, that’s not my point.

Btw we are 8th, halfway between 1st and 16th. Maybe it all does even up over the course of the season? Who knew!

Mr.H · 28-09-2015 11:18AM

dogbert27 wrote: »

What?!

He had the worst start to a Liverpool season since 1927.

The team he inherited had just got to an FA Cup final and won the league cup.

The team he inherited had beaten Arsenal in the league, Chelsea and Man City in the League Cup and Man United in the FA Cup. They could perform on their day.

Dalglish had us qualified for Europe.

Rodgers did better in the league by 3 wins but he got nowhere in the cups or Europe and didn't get us qualified for Europe.

How in the name of God is his first season considered a success??

It was not a successful season.

Dalglish qualified for europe through a cup

His league form was a joke. Rodgers inherited old players who were on huge wages. He reduced the average age by about 5 years.

We had 7 players over 28 at the club when Rodgers took over

As for Rodgers in Europe we topped our group.................... We lost on away goals.............

That was a huge improvement on the season before

Jesus Wept · 28-09-2015 11:20AM

the rodgers is good, the rodgers is gr8

googled eyes · 28-09-2015 11:21AM

Luckycharms_74 wrote:

Fine margins

I read elsewhere online

You should know by know that we only deal in extremes here on the LFC train wreck thread

NukaCola · 28-09-2015 11:22AM

Mr.H wrote: »

How many did he miss before he came to Liverpool??

Why is that relevant? Is the last 3 years not a big enough time frame?

Mr.H · 28-09-2015 11:24AM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Well we have been playing badly for over a year now!

Wow so now you are telling posters not to post because you don't agree with them posting about how badly we are playing.

I guess I didn't see the notice that Boards.ie had changed to Boards.NorthKorea

Not telling him to not post. I just know he will disappear as usual when things arent bad enough for him for him to slate the team

NukaCola · 28-09-2015 11:24AM

Mr.H wrote: »

The image was taken from the dailymail and is completely wrong

Its correct if taken from here http://ie.soccerway.com/players/daniel-sturridge/5206/

Depends on where the data is coming from

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