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DCM 2015: Mentored Novices Thread
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The Novice 20 miler is on for Saturday!
Meet/Greet: Parkgate @ 0930. Park in the Park (:)) at the Garda HQ, see meno's post. ^^^
Anyone who's late, I'll pass your name on to Dubgal. She'll make you do burpees as cross-training
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Participants
> oirishfruitie
> FeenaM
> nop98
> denis_b
> betty swollox
> diego_b
> neilthefunkeone
> Toulouse's friend, to be confirmed.
Betty S and Orishfruitie, are you still on? Let us know so we'll wait for you.
Pace: 9:45-10:00 min/mi [6:03-6-12 min/km].
Route: effectively the DCM route, without the bit in the Phoenix Park / Castleknock: Towards the islandbridge, southbound to the SCR ... ah drat, I don't really know. Denis_b will be the navigator.
Attached is a map. We'll end back in town, and then run back to the PP over the first few miles of the course. 20M in total. :eek:
There'll be in-flight entertainment about an hour in, courtesy of duffer247, many thanks in advance!Bushy park would be perfect, will you be heading in Terenure direction?
Yes, how about the corner of Templeogue and Fortfield Roads? We'll be heading towards Terenure. This'll be about 11km [7M] in, so we should be there about 10:40am (+/- 5min). Firedance might want to practice her support table for the day itself? Just sayin' (and I like strawberries).
FeenaM has volunteered for flapjack-duty (this is an incentive for us to keep up with her!).
Anything/anyone else - novices? Sure even the mentors might want a stretch of the auld legs?0 -
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Yes, how about the corner of Templeogue and Fortfield Roads? We'll be heading towards Terenure. This'll be about 11km [7M] in, so we should be there about 10:40am (+/- 5min). Firedance might want to practice her support table for the day itself? Just sayin' (and I like strawberries).
FeenaM has volunteered for flapjack-duty (this is an incentive for us to keep up with her!).
10/10 for persistence nop of course I'd be out with a table but it seems you're covered between the pit stop at Terenure and Feenas flap jacks 
have a great run folks
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Deleted User wrote: »I might be in a bit of bother. Niggle in calf has turned to pain. Physio again tomorrow. Slightly panicked but hopefully will be all good. Fingers crossed. It's too close now to be giving up without a fight.
Oh noooooo hopefully the physio and a few days rest will sort it. There's still time and the bulk of the work is done, hang in there 0 -
Deleted User wrote: »I might be in a bit of bother. Niggle in calf has turned to pain. Physio again tomorrow. Slightly panicked but hopefully will be all good. Fingers crossed. It's too close now to be giving up without a fight.
Ah
Keep us posted.....
And on to other matters....
- this thread seems to be running itself
10+ pages in two days :eek: ....what do we say....SLOOOOOOOW DOWN
- I will catch up tomorrow but if you think I/we have missed you, please drop a nudge via PM
- definitely can't make the lsr, sorry but I'm sure I heard meno and FBOT say they'd be along to sample flapjacks and give shoulder rubs post run 0 -
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Hi FeenaM, apologies for the delay. I agree with Clearlier and I like his theory re slow twitch and fast twitchers. Fwiw, this is the longest I have ever taken to recover from a race (bar the marathon and I definitely emptied the tank on Sunday :eek:) and I strongly suspect I have more fast twitch fibres, probably a mixed bunch at the moment so feel free to slot that into your theory
My digression over....
My take on it is that a marathon training plan requires a singular focus unlike other plans and too many races remove that singular focus.
A half marathon race is not a necessary part of the plan but many athletes race one for different reasons.
For a novice runner, racing (or running) a half
- gives you a dress rehearsal in a race setting (clothes, fuelling, hydration etc), unlike your other long runs
- allows you to assess your pace judgement and ability to keep to an even pace
- as a PMP, like you mention, allows you to test out your PMP but we have been doing that in the boards plan
- gives you an idea how training has gone and allows you to reassess your marathon target, providing you resist the temptation to hang your hat on 'best possible outcome'
- gives you respect for the distance you are about to tackle. You are going to run two of these babies. In a row.
- tapering and recovering at this stage is not such an interrupt. The physiological benefits you gain from racing a half will 95% of the time outweigh the drawbacks. If, however, you have included a lot of tune up and build up races, and have been tapering for these, then yes, tapering and recovering again is not ideal. I suppose now y'all see what we been banging on about?! Also bear in mind that your recovery will be affected as your body has been ill. Don't forget to factor in the draining aspect of antibiotics. I know they leave my legs dead :eek:
- the timing of this - five weeks out - is ok, optimal window is 5-8 weeks but Hal Higdon (ambivalent about their necessity) slots one in at nine weeks out.
Hope this helps and if anything else comes to me I'll get back to you I would imagine that next year, as an intermediate, you'll be definitely including a half at PMP but I am dying to see how you get on at the shorter stuff too
Do you know, I think we are all suffering a bit with 'maranoia' as was posted earlier...
I'd probably be feeling pretty drained this week even if i hadn't raced the HM, as would we all, with coughs/colds and niggles, etc.
In a way it is reassuring to hear that you don't just bounce back the next day either after racing a HM (I mean that in the nicest way) and so it doesn't mean that my body wasn't able for the HM at this stage of training. I guess, I'm just used to doing 5k/10k races and then hopping out of the bed the next morning feeling perfect!!!
Really looking forward to seeing how I am when I return to the shorter stuff too :pac: I'm on a mission to fill that table :cool:0 -
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Ah Keep us posted.....
And on to other matters....
- this thread seems to be running itself 10+ pages in two days :eek: ....what do we say....SLOOOOOOOW DOWN
- I will catch up tomorrow but if you think I/we have missed you, please drop a nudge via PM
- definitely can't make the lsr, sorry but I'm sure I heard meno and FBOT say they'd be along to sample flapjacks and give shoulder rubs post run
FBOT away golfing in Spain so won't be there.0 -
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The Novice 20 miler is on for Saturday!
Meet/Greet: Parkgate @ 0930. Park in the Park (:)) at the Garda HQ, see meno's post. ^^^
Anyone who's late, I'll pass your name on to Dubgal. She'll make you do burpees as cross-training.
Participants
> oirishfruitie
> FeenaM
> nop98
> denis_b
> betty swollox
> diego_b
> neilthefunkeone
> Toulouse's friend, to be confirmed.
Betty S and Orishfruitie, are you still on? Let us know so we'll wait for you.
Pace: 9:45-10:00 min/mi [6:03-6-12 min/km].
Route: effectively the DCM route, without the bit in the Phoenix Park / Castleknock: Towards the islandbridge, southbound to the SCR ... ah drat, I don't really know. Denis_b will be the navigator.
Attached is a map. We'll end back in town, and then run back to the PP over the first few miles of the course. 20M in total. :eek:
There'll be in-flight entertainment about an hour in, courtesy of duffer247, many thanks in advance!
Yes, how about the corner of Templeogue and Fortfield Roads? We'll be heading towards Terenure. This'll be about 11km [7M] in, so we should be there about 10:40am (+/- 5min). Firedance might want to practice her support table for the day itself? Just sayin' (and I like strawberries).
FeenaM has volunteered for flapjack-duty (this is an incentive for us to keep up with her!).
Anything/anyone else - novices? Sure even the mentors might want a stretch of the auld legs?
My friend is out. She's still going to do the 20 but is going to do loops closer to home in case it doesn't work out.
Best of luck tomorrow, might see you out there!0 -
The Novice 20 miler is on for Saturday!
Meet/Greet: Parkgate @ 0930. Park in the Park (:)) at the Garda HQ, see meno's post. ^^^
Anyone who's late, I'll pass your name on to Dubgal. She'll make you do burpees as cross-training.
Participants
> oirishfruitie
> FeenaM
> nop98
> denis_b
> betty swollox
> diego_b
> neilthefunkeone
> Toulouse's friend, to be confirmed.
Betty S and Orishfruitie, are you still on? Let us know so we'll wait for you.
Pace: 9:45-10:00 min/mi [6:03-6-12 min/km].
Route: effectively the DCM route, without the bit in the Phoenix Park / Castleknock: Towards the islandbridge, southbound to the SCR ... ah drat, I don't really know. Denis_b will be the navigator.
Attached is a map. We'll end back in town, and then run back to the PP over the first few miles of the course. 20M in total. :eek:
There'll be in-flight entertainment about an hour in, courtesy of duffer247, many thanks in advance!
Yes, how about the corner of Templeogue and Fortfield Roads? We'll be heading towards Terenure. This'll be about 11km [7M] in, so we should be there about 10:40am (+/- 5min). Firedance might want to practice her support table for the day itself? Just sayin' (and I like strawberries).
FeenaM has volunteered for flapjack-duty (this is an incentive for us to keep up with her!).
Anything/anyone else - novices? Sure even the mentors might want a stretch of the auld legs?
Yep - am still on. See you there. Thanks all.0 -
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