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DCM 2015: Mentored Novices Thread
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coolhandspan wrote: »Just a quick update on my week ahead. The hip flexor is still tight but physio said that i am good to run on it . First ever half at week end , hip felt good throughout race. Did a 1.36.12. Could not have gone 2 seconds faster. Lol. 😦 Recovery 5k on sunday.
Havent trained since.plan on doing 9miler tonight and a big lsr at week end. Mixing and matching the boards snd runkeeper plan at minute due to injury and half at week end. Plan to get back on track properly this week.
Good to hear that CHS and well done on the half. Will you be able to sandwich the 9 and your lsr with some easy miles too? Take it very easy on the run tonight, keep effort and pace low as you flush out the remains of the half
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Morning all Following on from TFGR's post on fighting your inner demons/voices and finding the right balance of confidence, I wanted to ask you all about your strategies.
Many of you will have encountered some inner voices on Saturday, telling you that 'it was too hard' or 'you're never going to last' or 'sure why don't you walk for a bit'.....These are normal, to be expected and even runners at the pointy end of the race encounter thoughts such as these. No doubt these voices will come out in force on the 26th at one stage or another so now is a good time to develop a counter-voices strategy
What do you do to put these voices back in their box?
So we have one reference point for this, can you reply by quoting as usual, add your username to the post and remove quote tags before you post It might work....
Whoopsadaisydoodles
*loo-la alert*
I talk back to them :pac:
No really....I have actual little chats with myself. I tell the negative voices that they're wrong, that I'm well able for this distance. That I'm supposed to be running this slowly. That science says I do not need to stop in the shop for jelly beans after 90 minutes of running and that I'm being a nancy by even considering it. I make deals with myself "run one more km and then see if you still need to stop".
If I get negative comments like "I could walk faster than that" I say "So can you G, but not for 26.2miles"
If I see someone bomb past me with their long fast legs I say "yes, and when you're back going out for nice 5k runs, you'll be able to run that fast too".
So yeh, address the voices - don't ignore them, answer them back, tell them they're wrong
(I've no idea if I've quoted this as per DG's instructions sorry missus).
DG:
Smashiner:
Hi Guys,
I did a slow 'junk run' last night of 10K, soooo didn't want to do it as the legs (quads) were still a bit stiff after the DHM. Feel a lot better today from it, and I would encourage everyone to 'hug and kiss and embrace' their slow crappy junks runs as they are very necessary at this stage !
Don't be too put off if you have an odd crappy run, keep reminding yourself that your legs will thank you on the 26th.....keep going you are almost there
My inner demons get kicked to touch with a few slogans such as 'you can do this, and you will do this'....also 'I am doing this because I want to do this and I am doing this because I 'can' do this'........think of the many many people that are not able to do this or can't do this....we are lucky that we can partake in such training and races.............then again I might have watched Rocky 111 a few too many times....
nop98
LOL @ whoopsa!
Similar la-la-land here:
I have a very similar approach. I reason and argue with myself. For example, during a bad patch, when the watch beeps that another km has gone by, I say "See! That wasn't so bad!". I similarly make promises: over that hill and then you can check how far left.
I also simply acknowledge that each run will have bad and good patches, as such I can accept the bad patch and work through it, knowing that the good will come. Or I remember the race reports on this thread, or on TFB's log (which is really epic), or on other runners' logs here, and recall these runners in similar circumstances and how they wrote about it. It distracts from my own current woes.
I can also talk myself into a positive frame of mind by commentating on my own run, like a sports commentator. "Yes, ladies and gentlemen, another mile has gone by. We're approach the half-marathon mark. Not a bother for this fella. Bla bla bla".
The last bit is really dorky. Can't believe I'm admitting to it!
Ah now lads....stick to the running eh? :rolleyes:
Great tips so far, loving the last one nop
PJD
Keep moving forward!
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Just a suggestion but to keep things easy why don't we meet in the park/around park gate street. Pick up the marathon route at island bridge (1 mile to get there and start at mile 12) and then follow it to the end (14 miles) but also use the remaining 5 miles needed to run back to park where I will have flapjacks in car for all :-)
I was just thinking the exact same thing 0 -
Whoopsadaisydoodles
*loo-la alert*
I talk back to them :pac:
No really....I have actual little chats with myself. I tell the negative voices that they're wrong, that I'm well able for this distance. That I'm supposed to be running this slowly. That science says I do not need to stop in the shop for jelly beans after 90 minutes of running and that I'm being a nancy by even considering it. I make deals with myself "run one more km and then see if you still need to stop".
If I get negative comments like "I could walk faster than that" I say "So can you G, but not for 26.2miles"
If I see someone bomb past me with their long fast legs I say "yes, and when you're back going out for nice 5k runs, you'll be able to run that fast too".
So yeh, address the voices - don't ignore them, answer them back, tell them they're wrong
(I've no idea if I've quoted this as per DG's instructions sorry missus).
nop98
LOL @ whoopsa!
Similar la-la-land here:
I have a very similar approach. I reason and argue with myself. For example, during a bad patch, when the watch beeps that another km has gone by, I say "See! That wasn't so bad!". I similarly make promises: over that hill and then you can check how far left.
I also simply acknowledge that each run will have bad and good patches, as such I can accept the bad patch and work through it, knowing that the good will come. Or I remember the race reports on this thread, or on TFB's log (which is really epic), or on other runners' logs here, and recall these runners in similar circumstances and how they wrote about it. It distracts from my own current woes.
I can also talk myself into a positive frame of mind by commentating on my own run, like a sports commentator. "Yes, ladies and gentlemen, another mile has gone by. We're approach the half-marathon mark. Not a bother for this fella. Bla bla bla".
The last bit is really dorky. Can't believe I'm admitting to it!
diego_b
For the tough times I sometimes just find myself zoning out and just focusing on my breathing and form, even counting my steps for a min (just one foot and the multiply it by two...do it again 5-10mins latar) to see if my cadence is even.
Also focus on something in the distance and have a good long look at it as I am coming up to pass it.
I do occasionally think of where I am at the moment, laughing thinking a 10mile/half marathon etc is a short enough run.....less than 2.5 years ago I could/would barely walk for a mile. I don't really take too much time to look back on that stuff for the weight I have lost and the different person I appear to be to people but in tough moments I let some thoughts come in.
I try think of the nice things people have said to me, the new people I have met, the races I have done, the feelings as I first ran for 20mins, broke 30mins for the 5K, the little leap I did when I first ran for 10K (did it under 1 hour all my own in the dark). The silliness of my unbridled joy as when I crossed the line in races breaking my own PBs. It's not about the times/distances though it about being able to routinely do now what I never thought possible.
I think of my wife and daughter a lot as well, when the runs/races get really hard I think of when I will see them....in x hours/mins when I get home. Even on a regular day I can still see my little girl the first time I saw her in the delivery room. I was amazed then and still amazed by her 3.5 years later. My wife in her wedding dress is another one as I first saw her down the bottom of the aisle. Not sure why this come to mind but they are special memories and I can drift away with them.0 -
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Whoopsadaisydoodles
*loo-la alert*
I talk back to them :pac:
No really....I have actual little chats with myself. I tell the negative voices that they're wrong, that I'm well able for this distance. That I'm supposed to be running this slowly. That science says I do not need to stop in the shop for jelly beans after 90 minutes of running and that I'm being a nancy by even considering it. I make deals with myself "run one more km and then see if you still need to stop".
If I get negative comments like "I could walk faster than that" I say "So can you G, but not for 26.2miles"
If I see someone bomb past me with their long fast legs I say "yes, and when you're back going out for nice 5k runs, you'll be able to run that fast too".
So yeh, address the voices - don't ignore them, answer them back, tell them they're wrong
(I've no idea if I've quoted this as per DG's instructions sorry missus).
nop98
LOL @ whoopsa!
Similar la-la-land here:
I have a very similar approach. I reason and argue with myself. For example, during a bad patch, when the watch beeps that another km has gone by, I say "See! That wasn't so bad!". I similarly make promises: over that hill and then you can check how far left.
I also simply acknowledge that each run will have bad and good patches, as such I can accept the bad patch and work through it, knowing that the good will come. Or I remember the race reports on this thread, or on TFB's log (which is really epic), or on other runners' logs here, and recall these runners in similar circumstances and how they wrote about it. It distracts from my own current woes.
I can also talk myself into a positive frame of mind by commentating on my own run, like a sports commentator. "Yes, ladies and gentlemen, another mile has gone by. We're approach the half-marathon mark. Not a bother for this fella. Bla bla bla".
The last bit is really dorky. Can't believe I'm admitting to it!
diego_b
For the tough times I sometimes just find myself zoning out and just focusing on my breathing and form, even counting my steps for a min (just one foot and the multiply it by two...do it again 5-10mins latar) to see if my cadence is even.
Also focus on something in the distance and have a good long look at it as I am coming up to pass it.
I do occasionally think of where I am at the moment, laughing thinking a 10mile/half marathon etc is a short enough run.....less than 2.5 years ago I could/would barely walk for a mile. I don't really take too much time to look back on that stuff for the weight I have lost and the different person I appear to be to people but in tough moments I let some thoughts come in.
I try think of the nice things people have said to me, the new people I have met, the races I have done, the feelings as I first ran for 20mins, broke 30mins for the 5K, the little leap I did when I first ran for 10K (did it under 1 hour all my own in the dark). The silliness of my unbridled joy as when I crossed the line in races breaking my own PBs. It's not about the times/distances though it about being able to routinely do now what I never thought possible.
I think of my wife and daughter a lot as well, when the runs/races get really hard I think of when I will see them....in x hours/mins when I get home. Even on a regular day I can still see my little girl the first time I saw her in the delivery room. I was amazed then and still amazed by her 3.5 years later. My wife in her wedding dress is another one as I first saw her down the bottom of the aisle. Not sure why this come to mind but they are special memories and I can drift away with them.
Kenny G
When voices start, I usually do equipment check, how's the breathing, how are feet, ankle, calves, Form etc.. , remember that I have work put in, and that I actually enjoy Running.,usually gets my mind back in the run and it passes.:)0 -
Whoopsadaisydoodles
*loo-la alert*
I talk back to them
No really....I have actual little chats with myself. I tell the negative voices that they're wrong, that I'm well able for this distance. That I'm supposed to be running this slowly. That science says I do not need to stop in the shop for jelly beans after 90 minutes of running and that I'm being a nancy by even considering it. I make deals with myself "run one more km and then see if you still need to stop".
If I get negative comments like "I could walk faster than that" I say "So can you G, but not for 26.2miles"
If I see someone bomb past me with their long fast legs I say "yes, and when you're back going out for nice 5k runs, you'll be able to run that fast too".
So yeh, address the voices - don't ignore them, answer them back, tell them they're wrong
(I've no idea if I've quoted this as per DG's instructions sorry missus).
nop98
LOL @ whoopsa!
Similar la-la-land here:
I have a very similar approach. I reason and argue with myself. For example, during a bad patch, when the watch beeps that another km has gone by, I say "See! That wasn't so bad!". I similarly make promises: over that hill and then you can check how far left.
I also simply acknowledge that each run will have bad and good patches, as such I can accept the bad patch and work through it, knowing that the good will come. Or I remember the race reports on this thread, or on TFB's log (which is really epic), or on other runners' logs here, and recall these runners in similar circumstances and how they wrote about it. It distracts from my own current woes.
I can also talk myself into a positive frame of mind by commentating on my own run, like a sports commentator. "Yes, ladies and gentlemen, another mile has gone by. We're approach the half-marathon mark. Not a bother for this fella. Bla bla bla".
The last bit is really dorky. Can't believe I'm admitting to it!
diego_b
For the tough times I sometimes just find myself zoning out and just focusing on my breathing and form, even counting my steps for a min (just one foot and the multiply it by two...do it again 5-10mins latar) to see if my cadence is even.
Also focus on something in the distance and have a good long look at it as I am coming up to pass it.
I do occasionally think of where I am at the moment, laughing thinking a 10mile/half marathon etc is a short enough run.....less than 2.5 years ago I could/would barely walk for a mile. I don't really take too much time to look back on that stuff for the weight I have lost and the different person I appear to be to people but in tough moments I let some thoughts come in.
I try think of the nice things people have said to me, the new people I have met, the races I have done, the feelings as I first ran for 20mins, broke 30mins for the 5K, the little leap I did when I first ran for 10K (did it under 1 hour all my own in the dark). The silliness of my unbridled joy as when I crossed the line in races breaking my own PBs. It's not about the times/distances though it about being able to routinely do now what I never thought possible.
I think of my wife and daughter a lot as well, when the runs/races get really hard I think of when I will see them....in x hours/mins when I get home. Even on a regular day I can still see my little girl the first time I saw her in the delivery room. I was amazed then and still amazed by her 3.5 years later. My wife in her wedding dress is another one as I first saw her down the bottom of the aisle. Not sure why this come to mind but they are special memories and I can drift away with them.
Kenny G
When voices start, I usually do equipment check, how's the breathing, how are feet, ankle, calves, Form etc.. , remember that I have work put in, and that I actually enjoy Running.,usually gets my mind back in the run and it passes.
ZV Yoda
How do I deal with the negative voices? With positive imagery :-)
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Whoopsadaisydoodles
*loo-la alert*
I talk back to them
No really....I have actual little chats with myself. I tell the negative voices that they're wrong, that I'm well able for this distance. That I'm supposed to be running this slowly. That science says I do not need to stop in the shop for jelly beans after 90 minutes of running and that I'm being a nancy by even considering it. I make deals with myself "run one more km and then see if you still need to stop".
If I get negative comments like "I could walk faster than that" I say "So can you G, but not for 26.2miles"
If I see someone bomb past me with their long fast legs I say "yes, and when you're back going out for nice 5k runs, you'll be able to run that fast too".
So yeh, address the voices - don't ignore them, answer them back, tell them they're wrong
(I've no idea if I've quoted this as per DG's instructions sorry missus).
nop98
LOL @ whoopsa!
Similar la-la-land here:
I have a very similar approach. I reason and argue with myself. For example, during a bad patch, when the watch beeps that another km has gone by, I say "See! That wasn't so bad!". I similarly make promises: over that hill and then you can check how far left.
I also simply acknowledge that each run will have bad and good patches, as such I can accept the bad patch and work through it, knowing that the good will come. Or I remember the race reports on this thread, or on TFB's log (which is really epic), or on other runners' logs here, and recall these runners in similar circumstances and how they wrote about it. It distracts from my own current woes.
I can also talk myself into a positive frame of mind by commentating on my own run, like a sports commentator. "Yes, ladies and gentlemen, another mile has gone by. We're approach the half-marathon mark. Not a bother for this fella. Bla bla bla".
The last bit is really dorky. Can't believe I'm admitting to it!
diego_b
For the tough times I sometimes just find myself zoning out and just focusing on my breathing and form, even counting my steps for a min (just one foot and the multiply it by two...do it again 5-10mins latar) to see if my cadence is even.
Also focus on something in the distance and have a good long look at it as I am coming up to pass it.
I do occasionally think of where I am at the moment, laughing thinking a 10mile/half marathon etc is a short enough run.....less than 2.5 years ago I could/would barely walk for a mile. I don't really take too much time to look back on that stuff for the weight I have lost and the different person I appear to be to people but in tough moments I let some thoughts come in.
I try think of the nice things people have said to me, the new people I have met, the races I have done, the feelings as I first ran for 20mins, broke 30mins for the 5K, the little leap I did when I first ran for 10K (did it under 1 hour all my own in the dark). The silliness of my unbridled joy as when I crossed the line in races breaking my own PBs. It's not about the times/distances though it about being able to routinely do now what I never thought possible.
I think of my wife and daughter a lot as well, when the runs/races get really hard I think of when I will see them....in x hours/mins when I get home. Even on a regular day I can still see my little girl the first time I saw her in the delivery room. I was amazed then and still amazed by her 3.5 years later. My wife in her wedding dress is another one as I first saw her down the bottom of the aisle. Not sure why this come to mind but they are special memories and I can drift away with them.
Kenny G
When voices start, I usually do equipment check, how's the breathing, how are feet, ankle, calves, Form etc.. , remember that I have work put in, and that I actually enjoy Running.,usually gets my mind back in the run and it passes.
ZV Yoda
How do I deal with the negative voices? With positive imagery :-)
PJD
Keep moving forward!
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I was just thinking the exact same thing
Just a little tip: probably the most secure spot to park your car is the Garda HQ which is just inside the park beside the NCR gate (at the start of your planned route there). There is usually loads of space directly in front of the HQ.
The 46a bus route starts and terminates just outside the NCR gate if you need to get back to the park from the DCM finish area...0 -
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I was just thinking the exact same thing
Sorry guys. Was heading out the door, and out of touch with the world for a day or two, when I tried to post http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/fullscreen/865961991/
Nop... its the exact same route that you posted. We can start and finish at the Islandbridge Gate (plenty of room inside the gates for cars). We will only really miss that part of the course which we already have run in the FD and HM.
Can we take it that we are starting to run at 9.30? I am familiar with the course and am happy enough to shout out the directions as we go. Cant say that it will be from the front!!!0 -
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