Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

So let me guess, you wanted Rafa to stay, hated the idea of Roy, wanted to keep Kenny and hate Rodgers because of a mancrush still held for Rafa?

In other words Clueful.

In other words proven right yet again

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

I stand by what I called him 100%. Letting his two coaches take the fall for last season and whispering into FSGs ears that it was their fault which led to them losing their jobs was disgusting behaviour.

But you made all that up though? You have zero clue of what happened. None.

If the manager feels he can get better coaches in is he not entitled to do so? He did hire them did he not? You cant fire under performing staff?

Your gone way OTT.

Look, we haven't made a good appointment since Rafa, simple.

Kenny was tactically playing decades behind, I think he was fairly glad to be out of it tbh.
Hodgson was hodgson, I'd rather leave that there. A panic move that was doomed from day 1.
In some ways Rodgers has been a reaction to Hodgson, we wanted the attacking football back and for a season or so we got it, but we had a revolving door at the back. This season he has gone so far back into his shell that we are neither solid at the back or good up up front.

I thought the post match against Norwich said a lot, he looked to be nervous and feeling the pressure and that transfers into the team. That's why i say go Mr Ancelotti, let him stand up to the pressure and the board and straighten this club out. I do believe in the owners intentions and they have spent on the squad and stadium but they need an effective counter balance on the footballing side.

This whole committee business is a mess. The loans and revolving door transfers are a mess. We need a strong coach able to stand up to the owners, one with enough credibility to get his way.

redzerdrog wrote: »

I know there are people with different view on each manager but I can't help get the feeling the Rodgers supporters are the same ones that wanted rid of Benitez, were happy initially with woy, wanted rid of Kenny and an apologist for Rodgers.

In other words, clueless!

Ah the sweet art of stereotyping.

I wanted rid of Benitez because his time had come , he was making bad decisions in the transfer market and the team had started to decline and were playing poor football in his last season. It's the natural cycle, sadly Liverpool fans have a special ability to reject change. Part of the problem that started in the late 80s and early 90s when the club did not move with the times financially and in terms of infrastructure, rather than deal with these massive issues some people would rather here about the boot room. Fairy tales to help you sleep at night, whilst reality was ignored.

I never wanted Hodgson. Danced when he left.

I wouldn't have picked Rodgers but initially I was happy the way his team was shaping up. This year I would say he time too has come, 3 years in and he hasn't got us to where he would have wanted.

Sacking Rodgers will be pointless unless we are prepared to judge a new manager on his merits and stop banging on about the glorious past, which as a club we managed to waste the benefit of. It will be pointless unless we throw out this transfer committee rot and let the manager do his job.

I think we need that change of manager alright, but we need all of the changes and not a handful. We need to look forward and not back.

Here is list of managers we could target

- Klopp
- Ancelotti (very unlikely)
- Schmidt
- Favre
- De Boer
- Emery

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

It's clear to see what time school got out this afternoon anyway.

Clearly the teachers at your school don't confiscate phones from students who are on boards anyway.

Even the folk behind him (Rodgers) at this point are resorting to pointing out that we played 'better' but at the same time seem to just ignore things like his best players yesterday being ones he has avoided choosing the entire season so far. Ings, Moreno, Sakho.... Not to mention the fact of who we were playing, at home, a team we'd expect to 'hockey', under Rodgers or Dalglish or anyone else.

A few years after it was accomplished (and it being accomplished despite Suarez being banned for nearly 3 months of it), i would say it would be a remarkable turnaround at this point of the season if Rodgers was even able to emulate what Kenny was deemed sackable for. Seriously, even right now id give Rodgers another season if i thought he had it in him to do just what Kenny achieved with what he was given at the start by the end of this season.

People talk about Kenny's signings as well. Does it have to be pointed out of the contributions, in the grand scheme today, of what around 60m worth of signings 12 months ago is currently doing. Markovic is in Turkey, Balotelli is in (a world of his own) Italy, Moreno cost 16m and can barely get a game ahead of a kid, and Origi.

Really, need we go any further?. Im not even going to talk about the future, the future is now.

Nobody knows who the scapegoats are anymore. The folk who blamed Gerrard being in the team cant blame him. We know Glen Johnson 'retired' long before he left. This time last year Sakho was disliked, right now its Lovren. In my opinion Skrtel has, and always will be the weak link but thats another point on a tangent. I even read someone believing they couldnt wait for Allen to get back, yea, mouth watering prospect alright!. I dont even think Lucas is good enough to start but he is levels above Allen.

Thats not to say we arent missing important bodies, namely Sturridge and Henderson, one we argued over getting in for a couple of million and wasted 6 months of everyones time. And the other, our captain, and imo, a fine player, who was almost shoved out the door to Fulham for a few million.

To say i have faith in anything thats being decided by peoples involved would be a calamitous misjudgement on my part. Yet i read it on a daily basis from others, still.

im fed up trying to be optimistic these days to be honest,the title surge we had is long over and the buzz long gone,its back to being nearly/what if/if only we type of club,spend lots,win fcuk all.. this season will be the same. depressing.

daithijjj wrote: »

Even the folk behind him (Rodgers) at this point are resorting to pointing out that we played 'better' but at the same time seem to just ignore things like his best players yesterday being ones he has avoided choosing the entire season so far. Ings, Moreno, Sakho.... Not to mention the fact of who we were playing, at home, a team we'd expect to 'hockey', under Rodgers or Dalglish or anyone else.

A few years after it was accomplished (and it being accomplished despite Suarez being banned for nearly 3 months of it), i would say it would be a remarkable turnaround at this point of the season if Rodgers was even able to emulate what Kenny was deemed sackable for. Seriously, even right now id give Rodgers another season if i thought he had it in him to do just what Kenny achieved with what he was given at the start by the end of this season.

People talk about Kenny's signings as well. Does it have to be pointed out of the contributions, in the grand scheme today, of what around 60m worth of signings 12 months ago is currently doing. Markovic is in Turkey, Balotelli is in (a world of his own) Italy, Moreno cost 16m and can barely get a game ahead of a kid, and Origi.

Really, need we go any further?. Im not even going to talk about the future, the future is now.

Nobody knows who the scapegoats are anymore. The folk who blamed Gerrard being in the team cant blame him. We know Glen Johnson 'retired' long before he left. This time last year Sakho was disliked, right now its Lovren. In my opinion Skrtel has, and always will be the weak link but thats another point on a tangent. I even read someone believing they couldnt wait for Allen to get back, yea, mouth watering prospect alright!. I dont even think Lucas is good enough to start but he is levels above Allen.

Thats not to say we arent missing important bodies, namely Sturridge and Henderson, one we argued over getting in for a couple of million and wasted 6 months of everyones time. And the other, our captain, and imo, a fine player, who was almost shoved out the door to Fulham for a few million.

To say i have faith in anything thats being decided by peoples involved would be a calamitous misjudgement on my part. Yet i read it on a daily basis from others, still.

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LiamoSail wrote: »

Wanting rid of Dalglish was clueless was it?

Not on its own but combo ed with wanting rid of Benitez and being an apologist for Rodgers it is proven that these lads are clueless.

I can see why people wanted Kenny sacked I believe he should have been given another year especially when you look at his signings such as Suarez and Henderson went on to be crucial for us.

However if sacking Kenny I expected someone that could bring us further than Kenny and never believed Rodgers was that man

Mr.H wrote: »

Kenny also bought Adam, Carroll, Downing and Doni

Every cloud

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

ps...anyone calling any Liverpool manager a scumbag has lost the run of themselves, it's frustrating to be in a position were results are bad, but calling the guy a scumbag speaks volumes about you as a fan.

I'd honestly rather people that had no respect weren't associated with the club and I think the myth of the Liverpool way and the way we always support the team has been seriously eroded by the childish nonsense that has gone on.

In fairness it seems to be only one header who has been at it relentlessly for ages.

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

He should be sacked now. You really are clueless if you think he deserves another 6 games. The season is still salvageable if he goes now. Another 6 games? Ha Ha you haven't a clue how much damage Rodgers is doing do you?

I actually do think he needs to be replaced now if you bothered to read any of my posts. I was more talking to those who still have support for him, hence the "everyone can agree" part of the post.

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Listen if he doesn't win on Wednesday and Saturday both home games he'll be a dead man. Anfield will boo him out of a job.

I agree