Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

Harry Palmr · 20-09-2015 11:23PM

I was against buying him (has that tribunal fee been sorted yet?!) but happy to be apparently wrong.

GotTheTshirt · 20-09-2015 11:24PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Ings has impressed me no end to be honest, Kuyt attitude with a better touch.

He really impressed me today. His goal was top drawer.

54and56 · 20-09-2015 11:43PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Were you at the game today?

No, but I try to go twice a year and bring one of my kids with me each time.

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Did you wear your full kit today?

No but I do have an official merchandise jersey bought at the stadium shop, as do my two kids.

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Have you paid the nearly €800 a year it takes to get Sky Sports and BT Sports and they still won't let you see every game?

Depressingly yes, I had to cut back last year but still have Sky Sports, not BT. Had it free for the first year but when they started charging me for it I dropped it.

Agent Coulson wrote: »

What makes a proper fan in your eyes?

Actions more than words and living the YNWA values ie supporting players, the manager and owners when they need it most . It's easy to criticise from afar when you have fcuk all skin in the game and things aren't going well and just as easy to hop on the bandwagon when they are going well a la 2103/14. Such people aren't proper fans IMO.

Agent Coulson wrote: »

"No good deed goes unpunished"?

Correct. When FSG came in the club was a debt laden shambles. They got rid of all those problems, put the club on a stable footing, have invested heavily in players and are turning Anfield into a modern state of the art stadium. That's totally forgotten by some who claim FSG "don't give a fcuk". I think it's embarrassing how quickly so many people forget what they have done and are continuing to do for the club.

doc_17 · 20-09-2015 11:46PM

I know it's early but I'm worried about the Firminho signing.

Iused2likebusts · 20-09-2015 11:48PM

doc_17 wrote: »

I know it's early but I'm worried about the Firminho signing.

me too doesnt fit into the team if we stick with todays formation.

billymitchell · 20-09-2015 11:54PM

doc_17 wrote: »

I know it's early but I'm worried about the Firminho signing.

Thought he did well today when he came on. Himself lallana and Coutinho linked up well at times, seemed to suit them to have a pacey little player like Ings in front of them, creating a bit of space for them to work in

shamrock55 · 20-09-2015 11:55PM

doc_17 wrote: »

I know it's early but I'm worried about the Firminho signing.

Im more worried about our entire midfield - its the worst in the league

rob316 · 20-09-2015 11:55PM

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

me too doesnt fit into the team if we stick with todays formation.

If you swapped Can or Milner for Coutinho and play Firmino behind the front 2, that could work. He really needs a run in there or play him as a striker. He has definitely shown flashes of his ability just nothing consistent yet.

Iused2likebusts · 20-09-2015 11:58PM

rob316 wrote: »

If you swapped Can or Milner for Coutinho and play Firmino behind the front 2, that could work. He really needs a run in there or play him as a striker. He has definitely shown flashes of his ability just nothing consistent yet.

I think it has to be a diamond to get coutinho and firmino into the team if we play 2 up top.

rob316 · 20-09-2015 11:59PM

shamrock55 wrote: »

Im more worried about our entire midfield - its the worst in the league

Henderson is a huge loss, Milner was brutal today and against United and West Ham. He covers the most ground but basic things like passing the ball and retaining possession he has been so poor at, Allen would even be a better option. Starting to see why Man City never played him in the centre.

rob316 · 21-09-2015 12:03AM

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I think it has to be a diamond to get coutinho and firmino into the team if we play 2 up top.

Ya, and we could do with the creativity of Coutinho in there, a midfield of Milner, Lucas/Can is just too workman like.

BorneTobyWilde · 21-09-2015 12:05AM

Our trouble is the fear that creeps in when opposing team wins ball and takes possession,at this point we back off. What we use to do was attack in numbers the opposing player who has the ball. We need that team approach to win ball back fast. It's always one player going to the ball and its so easy play it around him.
The midfield is individuals no partnerships in there at all.

~Rebel~ · 21-09-2015 12:56AM

Ah christ its so frustrating!

Even though the performance was a bit better in parts, I can't even give Rodgers any credit for it...in fact all it does it showcase his biggest problems.

Two up front, Moreno and Sakho in and suddenly we look much more cohesive. Literally what people have shouted for for weeks. I think had he done the final thing people asked for and played a 4-4-2 diamond we might have gotten the 3 points. But instead of stays reserved, and then goes nuts with substitutions all over the place, when 2 up top was clearly giving us opportunities.

Just maddening stuff really. I do think Firmino will be fine when/if played behind two strikers. The sooner we get Coutinho into a more central midfield role the better I think...in the final third he always seems to need to try the hardest thing. When he plays a bit deeper he controls a game more effectively.

What today shows for me is that we have the players to play well under a better manager, which in itself is a positive I guess.

marno21 · 21-09-2015 01:12AM

Brendan Rodgers or Luis Suarez?

With Suarez:
Norwich City 2 - 5 Liverpool
Liverpool 5 - 0 Norwich City
Liverpool 5 - 1 Norwich City
Norwich City 2 - 3 Liverpool

Without Suarez:
Liverpool 1 - 1 Norwich City

punk_one82 · 21-09-2015 01:55AM

Delighted Ings is proving his doubters wrong. He's a cracking 3rd choice striker and on current form he should be starting up front with Benteke. When Sturridge is back fit it would be good to see a combination of Sturridge and Ings up front. Pace, intelligence, runs in behind the defenders and relentlessness. Great touch for his goal today and it's not a once off either. He's unlucky to not have more goals for us already.

Result wasn't good enough v Norwich, but team selection was definitely a lot better and tactics are getting closer to what we actually need. Sakho looked pretty assured throughout and has to start next week. Moreno is such a good attacking threat when we play a back 5 too. Long may himself and Sakho be paired in our starting 11.

Jesus Wept · 21-09-2015 08:11AM

Morning

Vicxas · 21-09-2015 08:15AM

Je suis Mario wrote: »

Morning

Take your bloody optimism somewhere else!

#Rodgersout

livinginkorea · 21-09-2015 08:31AM

Just watched the highlights now on MOTD. Had such a crappy stream yesterday that I only heard half the game.

Overall I am disappointed with the draw as we did create a hell of a lot more chances but the final touch or shot was missing. Still it was a step in the right direction and the part that worries me about Rodgers is not the transfers (let's be honest for most teams it is 50/50), or the 'outstanding' press conferences, it's about his stubbornness. He can not adapt fast enough to the game, especially when it is happening right in front of him. He's very weak in that respect. Took him until last week to finally get Sakho in and two strikers....that's far too long. Same with the back three and left footers. It takes him too long to see this. I am sure his team is telling him this but he is too stuck in his ways? He has to adapt quicker.

Mig was very poor for that goal. If you commit yourself then you have to get the ball and really punch it out of the stadium. Cou was a bit too selfish today, a better option was available. But I was happy to see a lot more attacking and options in the box. Haven't seen that for a while. We've been too concerned with protecting the goal in recent times.

skippy15 · 21-09-2015 08:43AM

Still think with almost 5 new players in starting line up going take a while to bed in (clyne milner benteke firmino gomez can as a cm even)
But we need start players who fit the system and are on form; moreno ibe ings
in meantime before we hit form should still be beating likes of norwich bordeaux even the hammers.
worry is rodgers doesnt seem have a definite plan or shape at this stage which is criminal..so if our formation drops benteke firmino for a while so be it

prettyboy81 · 21-09-2015 09:21AM

Is the glass half full or half empty?? Chances missed & conceding a sloppy goal.

I'm not convinced by our manager. But except Klopp who else is out there that is get able that would excite the fans, motivate the players with a proven record of success.

I don't want Ancelotti, great manager with clubs that bankroll plenty of money.

Speak Now · 21-09-2015 09:43AM

16 pts from the last 15 league games and 4 wins from 17 games including cups.

I really hoped it would work out for Rodgers but we're in season 4 now and I cant even pin point a style of play at this stage.

With the resources he has had he can have no complaints if the axe is yielded soon.

ricero · 21-09-2015 09:47AM

prettyboy81 wrote: »

Is the glass half full or half empty?? Chances missed & conceding a sloppy goal.

I'm not convinced by our manager. But except Klopp who else is out there that is get able that would excite the fans, motivate the players with a proven record of success.

I don't want Ancelotti, great manager with clubs that bankroll plenty of money.

Jasus turning your nose up at Carlo ancelloti one of the the top 5 managers in world football. I'd take him in a heartbeat probaly even over klopp.

Polo_Mint · 21-09-2015 09:48AM

I think Your team have a lot of great players.

I also think if your fired Rodgers this morning, Your assistant manager ( Caretaker Manager) wouldn't get worse results as your team are getting now.

Fire Rodgers, Take the financial hit, put a Caretaker Manager in now as its still the start of the season, and look for a new one.

Liverpool can turn this around, Just need a Good manager to do it

brevity · 21-09-2015 09:50AM

IF FSG are to remain owners, then they need a manger who can get us punching above our weight.

We're not going to be able to spend like Chelsea, City & Utd so we have to be smart - get a manger who is tactically astute and can bring confidence back to the team.

Agent Coulson · 21-09-2015 09:51AM

prettyboy81 wrote: »

Is the glass half full or half empty?? Chances missed & conceding a sloppy goal.

I'm not convinced by our manager. But except Klopp who else is out there that is get able that would excite the fans, motivate the players with a proven record of success.

I don't want Ancelotti, great manager with clubs that bankroll plenty of money.

FSG bankrolled Rodgers with £300M.

I'd say it would be a safe bet if Ancelotti had £300m and three seasons he would have won something.

BullBlackNova · 21-09-2015 09:53AM

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

16 pts from the last 15 league games and 4 wins from 17 games including cups.

I really hoped it would work out for Rodgers but we're in season 4 now and I cant even pin point a style of play at this stage.

With the resources he has had he can have no complaints if the axe is yielded soon.

Frightening to see it spelled out as blatantly as that. 15 games isn't a blip, regardless of whether its spread over two different campaigns or not.

Over a season, that would leave us in drastic trouble.

For me, the time has come for a change, whether FSG do it or not is another question. 8 points from 6 games - extrapolate it over a season, we're talking 50ish points. Maybe slightly higher if we have a run that doesn't include any of last seasons top sides. That would leave us where?

Rodgers isn't even treading water at this point. Bar finishing 2nd once, the team is performing worse than it was under Dalglish and Benitez at the end. At least there was a cup run or some decent European form in those seasons to counteract the poorer league games.

I don't expect to be sitting in the top 4 each season but surely it should at least be fun to watch my team? To see them at least trying, if they are failing?

jpboard1 · 21-09-2015 09:53AM

brevity wrote: »

IF FSG are to remain owners, then they need a manger who can get us punching above our weight.

We're not going to be able to spend like Chelsea, City & Utd so we have to be smart - get a manger who is tactically astute and can bring confidence back to the team.

I think its a bit of a myth that Liverpool can't spend. They can and they have. I thought Rodgers might eventually come good but it really needs to happen soon. He is starting to run out of time.

Grayditch · 21-09-2015 09:55AM

It's not wrong to want a new manager as soon as possible, at this stage.

BullBlackNova · 21-09-2015 09:55AM

Also, I really don't see us getting Ancelotti or Klopp if Rodgers is sacked at any stage soon. I'd say De Boer, Cocu, Garry Monk or Koeman seem more likely. Unai Emery is pretty short odds with Sky Bet too, I think he's 4th or 5th favourite.

jpboard1 · 21-09-2015 09:57AM

BullBlackNova wrote: »

Also, I really don't see us getting Ancelotti or Klopp if Rodgers is sacked at any stage soon. I'd say De Boer, Cocu, Garry Monk or Koeman seem more likely. Unai Emery is pretty short odds with Sky Bet too, I think he's 4th or 5th favourite.

No offence to Monk but I don't think he is the answer. It would be Rodgers all over again. He won't attract big player.

De Boer may be an option.

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