Jan and Klodi's Party Bus - part II off topic discussion

rollingscone · 17-09-2015 11:34PM

Bummer dude.

I will say I now try and assess if someone wants my help or not, as I've had a lot of borderline hostile responses to genuine offers/inquiries.

But I reckon if I saw someone really flailing I'd assume they wanted help. And well Tyre levers are not exactly rolled in gold.

Raam · 17-09-2015 11:35PM

Did you ask any of them for help and they ignored you?

Darkglasses · 17-09-2015 11:45PM

I think I've always offered help since I started cycling about 5 years ago (but then, you hardly see any cyclists down here). I think one person has accepted help, but even just one person makes it totally worthwhile.

eeeee · 17-09-2015 11:52PM

I offer help but have never been taken up on it, which is lucky as I would be largely useless. The moral support I can offer however is second to none!

arybvtcw0eolkf · 18-09-2015 12:54AM

Raam wrote: »

Did you ask any of them for help

Its the main cycle route through Clontarf/Dollymount, if I was to ask for help from every passing cyclist I'd never have had the time to fix the puncture!.

So the answer to your question is NO, I was too busy repairing a puncture in the dark & rain to ask the dozens of 'cyclists' who passed me in that time.

No biggie. But a lesson learned all the same.. Still, I'll always stop and ask a cyclist if they need help.

Incidently, a thought just occurred to me, and I posted about it on this forum early in the summer.. I was passing a cyclist the the Alfie Byrne/Clontarf Road junction, it was a lovely summers day (a rarity this summer) and the lad was lying down.

Thinking at first he was enjoying the weather I got the feeling something was wrong, and I was right.. The lad had been knocked from his bike. He was in a state of shock and confusion and more worried that his dad would complain about the damage to the bike more than his own welfare.

Without getting into laying blame or guilt, but it only takes a second to ask someone they need help.. And my experience is that almost 100% of the time they won't, but it costs nothing to ask.

Zyzz · 18-09-2015 12:55AM

Was out cycling earlier in clontarf and saw this cyclist trying to fix a puncture, I could tell from the persons forearms that they had many years experience in judo so I didn't bother stopping, had a rucksack full of tyre levers as well on my back

arybvtcw0eolkf · 18-09-2015 01:06AM

Zyzz wrote: »

Was out cycling earlier in clontarf and saw this cyclist trying to fix a puncture, I could tell from the persons forearms that they had many years experience in judo so I didn't bother stopping, had a rucksack full of tyre levers as well on my back

The cauliflowers ears are the give away, the forearms ~ well they're from something else :P

rollingscone · 18-09-2015 04:17AM

Zyzz wrote: »

Was out cycling earlier in clontarf and saw this cyclist trying to fix a puncture, I could tell from the persons forearms that they had many years experience in judo so I didn't bother stopping, had a rucksack full of tyre levers as well on my back

Besides your rickshaw driver never would have stopped.

smacl · 18-09-2015 07:22AM

Would you?

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Qualitymark · 18-09-2015 07:47AM

OleRodrigo wrote: »

Did people really buy all that, back then ?

I thought it was just Insurance companies and Governent advisors ( and later, the Irish Times ).

Classes? Oh, class still exists, very much so. Until we have equal pay, they will exist. And pay now is a lot less equal than then; the politicians of those times, for instance, would never have dreamed of expecting the fantasy salaries and pensions paid to our current overlords.

A quick chapeau to Dan Price https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Price

RobFowl · 18-09-2015 08:25AM

Sasha Round Laser wrote: »

Its the main cycle route through Clontarf/Dollymount, if I was to ask for help from every passing cyclist I'd never have had the time to fix the puncture!.

So the answer to your question is NO, I was too busy repairing a puncture in the dark & rain to ask the dozens of 'cyclists' who passed me in that time.

No biggie. But a lesson learned all the same.. Still, I'll always stop and ask a cyclist if they need help.

Incidently, a thought just occurred to me, and I posted about it on this forum early in the summer.. I was passing a cyclist the the Alfie Byrne/Clontarf Road junction, it was a lovely summers day (a rarity this summer) and the lad was lying down.

Thinking at first he was enjoying the weather I got the feeling something was wrong, and I was right.. The lad had been knocked from his bike. He was in a state of shock and confusion and more worried that his dad would complain about the damage to the bike more than his own welfare.

Without getting into laying blame or guilt, but it only takes a second to ask someone they need help.. And my experience is that almost 100% of the time they won't, but it costs nothing to ask.

Serves you right for buying your kit in Aldi ......

tigerboon · 18-09-2015 08:45AM

Sasha Round Laser wrote: »

one of my two tyre levers broke whilst trying to get the tyre off.

I had a few of the plastic tyre levers break while fixing punctures in the middle of nowhere. Got the metal levers in halfords for about a fiver and haven't got a puncture since!!

Qualitymark · 18-09-2015 08:51AM

Dervla Murphy says she can't fix a puncture:

http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/dervla-murphy-living-life-on-her-own-terms-28895587.html

I presume she knew how to fix a puncture?

"No," she mumbles. "Not a hope. It was like mathematics -- I never tried to learn. Now that's where the men came in. I'd sit down at the side of the road until a suitable man came along. I carried a spare tube and spare everything for other people to put in. One day in Afghanistan I had nine punctures"

(gasp)

Harrybelafonte · 18-09-2015 09:05AM

Pedro's Tyre Levers. Don't get metal levers, they're not required and involve a greater risk of damaging wheels.

Zyzz · 18-09-2015 09:12AM

I'd throw myself down a hill on a bike, but would never use metal levels, ever.

tomasrojo · 18-09-2015 09:35AM

Dara in Bee Cycles recommended Birzman tyre levers to me. I really like them so far.

Eamonnator · 18-09-2015 09:44AM

Zyzz wrote: »

I'd throw myself down a hill on a bike, but would never use metal levels, ever.

Try these. plastic, reinforced with stainless steel. I have them years, absolutely no problem.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ie/en/topeak-shuttle-tyre-levers-1-2/rp-prod28714

Tough, hard wearing and easy on tubes.

lennymc · 18-09-2015 10:13AM

bumped into a lad i know from swords at the side of the road one day - he was with another rider who was in a bit of bother. His tyre was destroyed with a lovely big tear. Luckily I had a spare tyre in my backpack i was able to give him.

xebec · 18-09-2015 10:17AM

Sasha Round Laser wrote: »

I'm not usually one to rant, cry or throw a tantrum.. But by Jaysus I was seething earlier.

I've NEVER passed a cyclist broken down, never.. But I was caught with a puncture tonight (around 21:30) at the wooden bridge in Clontarf ~ usually not a big problem at all, but tonight one of my two tyre levers broke whilst trying to get the tyre off.

So in the pissing rain I was left with one tyre lever and thank f**k for years of Judo giving me enough grip strength to tear the tyre from the rim.

And yes, every cyclist pissed on past without a backwards glance.

Just one bloody tyre lever would have made a massive difference to my night.

May the curse of the seven scabby orphans haunt every cyclist who whizzed past me tonight.

Home now, showered and warm again ~ with a whiskey!!.

Oh, on a plus.. I used an Aldi repair kit, apart from the lever breaking the pump and patches worked great (I think the pump cost me about a fiver a few years ago)

Ah that's a pity. I had a blow out just after Stepaside yesterday evening and despite changing tyres/tubes a good few times I was having trouble - thought it was my pump that was the issue. As one guy passed I motioned him that I needed a pump, he stopped but couldn't help as he didn't have anything. Next guy passing I again motioned that I could do with some help, he stopped and we got it sorted. Then a third man in a car stopped to give me use of his track pump. Limped home from there... (Damn Conti GP4000's and their weak side walls)

I guess I got all the helpful people yesterday evening and used up the goodwill before you had your issue :rolleyes:

Diarmuid · 18-09-2015 10:24AM

gadetra wrote: »

It's also sexist as hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Qn1uHlRIY

Lusk_Doyle · 18-09-2015 10:46AM

lennymc wrote: »

bumped into a lad i know from swords at the side of the road one day - he was with another rider who was in a bit of bother. His tyre was destroyed with a lovely big tear. Luckily I had a spare tyre in my backpack i was able to give him.

Did you give it to him?

wanderer 22 · 18-09-2015 10:49AM

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

Did you give it to him?

He gave him his 25mm one.

Lusk_Doyle · 18-09-2015 10:50AM

colm18 wrote: »

He gave him his 25mm one.

Are we still talking about the same thing here?

daragh_ · 18-09-2015 10:52AM

I had a puncture up Tibradden Mountain one evening this week and not one cyclist appeared to help me (or point out that trying to ride up there on cross bike was a bit stupid).

On commutes I would normally slow down and ask if people are ok. Surprised how many people will set out for work with no spares or the vaguest notion of how to change a tube.

ThisRegard · 18-09-2015 10:59AM

gadetra wrote: »

I offer help but have never been taken up on it, which is lucky as I would be largely useless. The moral support I can offer however is second to none!

I'm that guy on the street to where kids are sent if they have something wrong with their bike, or needs something pumped up.

Wishbone Ash · 18-09-2015 12:00PM

daragh_ wrote: »

... Surprised how many people will set out for work with no spares or the vaguest notion of how to change a tube.

...Or the amount of experienced cyclists who carry cheap mini-pumps which don't work when required.

ThisRegard wrote: »

I'm at that guy on the street to where kids are sent if they have something wrong with their bike, or needs something pumped up.

I'm one of those also! "My daddy said you would oil my chain/pump my tyres/fix my brakes etc."

wanderer 22 · 18-09-2015 12:04PM

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

Are we still talking about the same thing here?

You know we are

Eamonnator · 18-09-2015 12:15PM

ThisRegard wrote: »

I'm that guy on the street to where kids are sent if they have something wrong with their bike, or needs something pumped up.

Me too.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 18-09-2015 02:20PM

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

...Or the amount of experienced cyclists who carry cheap mini-pumps which don't work when required.

After paying something like a fiver for the mini pump in either Aldi or Lidl (can't remember which) I wasn't really expecting it to work, but it did an admirable job

However I keep it on my hybrid, which is seldom so far from home that I couldnt be rescued or walk home.

smacl · 18-09-2015 02:27PM

daragh_ wrote: »

(or point out that trying to ride up there on cross bike was a bit stupid).

Stupid is as stupid does. Was up there on the cross bike myself Tuesday lunch, though frazzled enough just getting up Tibradden lane before the forest entrance, and didn't appreciate having my weaving around options seriously curtailed when I met a jeep coming the other way on one of the steeper bits. On the plus side, its a lot less muddy than Massey's at the moment. Still looking for the magical hidden path that links Tibradden to Kilmashogue

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