Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

How could he organise the defence when he was focused on telling players to pass to Suarez? If for a minute he tried to talk about defence the magic would have been lost. He done right to stick to that tactic, nearly won us a league.

Cringe!

who cares about nearly? this is Liverpool FC, every Liverpool title winning team had a solid defence and until we get a manager who can organise and marshall a watertight backline we are nowhere near winning one again

Alonso77 wrote: »

Cringe!

who cares about nearly? this is Liverpool FC, every Liverpool title winning team had a solid defence and until we get a manager who can organise and marshall a watertight backline we are nowhere near winning one again

Cringe all you like my good man, it's been over 25 years I'm sure you know that, the 'this is Liverpool we should be doing this that or the other' mantra is wearing a bit thin at this stage, let's be realistic.

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Cringe all you like my good man, it's been over 25 years I'm sure you know that, the 'this is Liverpool we should be doing this that or the other' mantra is wearing a bit thin at this stage, let's be realistic.

With a username such as yours i can see where you coming from -accept mediocrity, forget proud traditions and tow the line. Nice. very nice

JohnDaniels wrote: »

Brave or foolish from Rodgers? I agree with the fringe players needing games but given the pressure he is under and one of the biggest sticks used to beat him is his European record, I'm surprised if he leaving Benteke at home. If this European game doesn't go well the knifes will be out in all directions.

Picture of said sticks used to beat Rodgers!

Grayditch wrote: »

I agree with this. I would have no problem **** all over a league win, with this tactic, if it worked. However, I'd like to know what Rodgers' plan is without Suarez. The club must push on without Luis, and if Rodgers has played his only card, it must push on without him too.

Ha Ha that's not a tactic, pass the ball to Luis and let him do his stuff. It's like Pele giving the team talk in Escape to Victory 'pass me the ball, I do this, this this this this, goal'.

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Ha Ha that's not a tactic, pass the ball to Luis and let him do his stuff. It's like Pele giving the team talk in Escape to Victory 'pass me the ball, I do this, this this this this, goal'.

It was a little more intricate than that, come on man give Rodgers something, just a morsel of credit, dig deep, you know you can do it.

Alonso77 wrote: »

Cringe!

who cares about nearly? this is Liverpool FC, every Liverpool title winning team had a solid defence and until we get a manager who can organise and marshall a watertight backline we are nowhere near winning one again

For the first time in over 20 years there was an EPL trophy at Anfield on the last day of the season. At that point it would have been miraculous for City to explode but you should get the point.

"Nearly" matters a great deal for a team who hasn't won a league in a long time. Not sure where the cringe comment is coming from. Sure we were nowhere near winning the league before BR came in either, and he got us closer than any LFC manager has in the EPL era without having a great defensive setup either, so your point about being nowhere near a league title without a watertight backline has already been proven wrong? Or have I missed your point?

I've lost all confidence in BR at this point, he looks lost at the moment but the revision of history in here the past few months has been really head scratching. He had us playing the best attacking football I have ever seen us play, yes Suarez was a big part of that but BR also had a big part in it. Some would have you believe he was in his office googling articles about himself while Suarez took the training and tactics.

Grayditch wrote: »

I'm no tactician, but I can't figure out what Brendan has been doing since.

Either can Brendan that's the problem no Suarez no idea.

Alonso77 wrote: »

Yes you have missed my point, The point is we didnt win the league because of said leaky backline which Rodgers has consistently shown that he can not remedy. I was as exhilarated as anyone with the attacking play that season and gutted we lost out but lets be realistic, our failure to defend cost us the league that season. To defend Rodgers now by saying " but but but we nearly won the league 2 yrs ago!!" is cringe to me. sorry but thats i feel my man

You said we'll get nowhere near winning a league with a leaky backline. But we did. 2 points away. The closest we've ever been i the EPL. But now your changing your point.

Alonso77 wrote: »

until we get a manager who can organise and marshall a watertight backline we are nowhere near winning one again

I dont think anyone was defending him by saying "but but but we nearly won the league 2 yrs ago!!" just that it was unfair to say his only tactic was to pass it to Suarez, which is more cringey to me than anything else. If someone honestly deep down thinks this is true then it is absolutely obvious they are clueless to how football works lets be honest.

Alonso77 wrote: »

I cant speak for anyone else but for me, if you dont have a tight defence it is extremely rare you are going to win leagues. Keegan '96 prime example, great attacking play but leaky at the back. I dont have any issue with Rodgers, if we were winning games convincingly, I would be singing his name to high heavens.

The fact is for the last 12 months, things have been pretty diabolical and I just cannot get why some still wont accept the how and why of whats happening in the here and now and hark back to 2 seasons ago to defend Rodgers.

I absolutely agree. I just think writing him out of that title challenge is grossly unfair and just wrong.

NukaCola wrote: »

I absolutely agree. I just think writing him out of that title challenge is grossly unfair and just wrong.

I'm not writing anyone out of anything, I'm saying tight defences are essential to winning leagues.

And to clarify - I feel nearly winning is nowhere near.

I felt as if in previous seasons Rodgers had been working towards a particular style of play, not necessarily the same style every season, but a distinct way of playing anyway. When things weren't working for us he changed it up and tried something new and at times it worked and at times it didn't work, but it was easier to support him when you could see what he was trying to achieve. This season and the end of last season however have felt as if he has really got lost and doesn't even know what he's trying to achieve himself anymore, way too early to know what this summers transfers will work out like but even judging by the players he signed it doesn't seem as if there is a clear plan in place, I fail to see how he can fit the likes of Benteke, Sturridge, Coutinho, Firmino, Milner and Henderson all into the one team.

I don't think he is a terrible manager but it really isn't working out for him at the moment, the time to sack him was after the Stoke game last season but I suspect he will get until at least Christmas unless there are a few embarrassing defeats between now and then.

Mr.H wrote: »

How would a team be "near winning" without winning then???

You cant be "near winning" if you actually win, therefore you must not win to "nearly win"


so to clarify your wrong, but "nearly right"