Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

Turtyturd · 14-09-2015 11:06PM

Probably caught it off Sturridge.

J Mysterio · 14-09-2015 11:27PM

****s sake.

~Rebel~ · 14-09-2015 11:28PM

corwill wrote: »

I didn't think his time had come, but I was starting to have doubts. Aside from the tail off in form and the league finish, it felt like Rafa was conducting an argument with the owners through his selections and his management of the team, like the players were chess pieces. I was on his side in that argument, but I felt like performances and results suffered because of it. So when he went, I thought maybe it could turn out to be best for everyone, not least him. It hurt like hell, I loved him to bits, but it felt like it might be a natural end to the chapter.

Yeah, I kinda felt like this too....like it was better for him to leave, seemed to really be taking its toll on him mentally with the constant battle with H&G. It had just become a power struggle between them, with the football almost taking a back seat. That actually makes sense, given that his hands were totally tied in transfers - like only being able to buy from clubs that owed us money the previous summer etc. It just felt like it had come to a head, and was almost good for his sanity to take a step back.

I still firmly believe he'll manage us again though, and with success under a less insane ownership. At this stage, is there anyone left at the club apart from Ayre (who was Commercial Director at the time I think) who was there when he left?

Chip Whitley · 15-09-2015 12:02AM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I still firmly believe he'll manage us again though, and with success under a less insane ownership. At this stage, is there anyone left at the club apart from Ayre (who was Commercial Director at the time I think) who was there when he left?

So do I, I really hope he'll be back some day. I think he would have worked well under FSG if he had been able to hang on that little bit longer until after they had sold the club.

Also, just to add my two cents to the casual fan debate from earlier: I'm 31. Have supported Liverpool since I was 6. During the latter part of my school years and all through college you would not have found a more 'devoted' fan than me. Watched every game, I had subscriptions to LFC magazine, Kop Newspaper, FourFourTwo, bought every kit every year, CL nights were the highlight of my week. Even after college, I listened to The Anfield Wrap and other football podcasts just for a Liverpool fix. All that kind of stuff.

Then the Hodgson era coincided with me meeting my missus. The poor standard of player he was bringing in was troubling but I was always a glass half-full supporter. Then Kenny's reign coincided with us having kids. Nando leaving just broke my heart though, I'm not even joking. I haven't been the same since. It really opened my eyes to how much LFC was at the mercy of whoever owned it. Just as Rodgers took over I was getting rid of Sky Sports. I couldn't really afford it, needed money for nappies. No more jerseys, no more magazine subscriptions. I started my own business, so I was working, and for the most part still am working 12 hour days to get to where I want to be. So Sunday is my day off. That's family day. There's no way I can justify sitting down for 90 mins and watching what Rodgers is serving up, no way. I get texts from my mates updating me on scores, I'll check apps or Football365 while I'm having lunch, I watch MotD on a Saturday night if I don't fall asleep on the couch before it comes on but following the club isn't what it used to be for me.

It's disappointing as hell to see where the club is at now, the poor form and bad results still affect me just as much as the good ones, but just because I don't watch every game, it doesn't make me a fairweather fan. It just means that the club as it is now makes it easier for me to move it down my list of priorities.

Agent Coulson · 15-09-2015 06:51AM

Gerrard on Balotelli.

Rodgers gamble not the transfer committee is what I take for from

In my last season, Brendan Rodgers came to me at Melwood one day in mid-August. We had a chat on the training pitch. He said, ‘You know we’ve missed out on a couple of signings. I’m basically left with no option but to have a bit of a gamble.’
Brendan paused before he spoke again: ‘The gamble is Mario Balotelli.’ My instant reaction was, ‘Uh-oh.

Brendan must have sensed my underlying reservations because he spoke a little more about why he thought it could be worth the risk. Brendan implied that Balotelli didn’t have anywhere else to go — and it seemed as if Liverpool would be Balotelli’s last chance to shine at a major club.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3233032/Steven-Gerrard-reveals-ran-rule-new-Liverpool-signing-training-session-Xabi-Alonso-El-Hadji-Diouf-Luis-Suarez-Mario-Balotelli.html

punk_one82 · 15-09-2015 07:02AM

Chip Whitley wrote: »

It just means that the club as it is now makes it easier for me to move it down my list of priorities.

Really don't mean to be a dick here - not directing this at you. What you've said makes perfect sense and with a wife, kids and your own business it's understandable how 90 mins every week isn't always possible, but I think that last line is what people are talking about. You have perfectly valid reasons for not watching matches, however some people in here who are turning off matches now when we're losing and are giving Liverpool a break for a while. That's who the fair weather comments would be aimed at in my opinion.

LuckyLloyd · 15-09-2015 07:04AM

Yeah, I think if football doesn't slide down your list of priorities from time to time you're probably doing life wrong to some degree or another.

corwill · 15-09-2015 07:07AM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Yeah, I think if football doesn't slide down your list of priorities from time to time you're probably doing life wrong to some degree or another.

And the last thing any reasonably productive grown adult should feel like they're obliged to do is justify that some keyboard warrior setting himself up as the keeper of the flame.

Lovely Bloke · 15-09-2015 07:23AM

Jaysis, turning the TV off is hardly analogous to leaving the ground early.

weldoninhio · 15-09-2015 07:29AM

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Jaysis, turning the TV off is hardly analogous to leaving the ground early.

If you don't watch every game in HD your heart obviously isn't in it and you are fair weather.

corwill · 15-09-2015 07:32AM

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Jaysis, turning the TV off is hardly analogous to leaving the ground early.

GETOUTOFMYCLUBOLAFWOOLARGLEBARGLE

Dickerty · 15-09-2015 07:38AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

If you don't watch every game in HD your heart obviously isn't in it and you are fair weather.

HD = Hardcore Devotee

Any time I KNOW we are going to lose (which is pretty rare, like Stoke in May), I'll switch off and do something constructive. I have 4 kids so there is always something to be done! Spending an extra 30 or 60 mins railing at the TV/Laptop is bad for the blood pressure.

Dickerty · 15-09-2015 07:42AM

rarnes1 wrote: »

We still haven't replaced Alonso. Scandalous tbh considering the cash we've spent since

He'll be back as manager in a few years, don't worry!

googled eyes · 15-09-2015 07:46AM

All the usuals stating the Klopp is waiting on the call.

So i guess that means its not gonna happen

Vicxas · 15-09-2015 07:50AM

googled eyes wrote: »

All the usuals stating the Klopp is waiting on the call.

So i guess that means its not gonna happen

We'll see come our loss on Thursday and draw on Saturday

I'm ITK DYK

googled eyes · 15-09-2015 07:51AM

Vicxas wrote:

I'm ITK DYK

You should write that after your name, like a doctor

Vicxas ITK DYK

Dickerty · 15-09-2015 08:15AM

Vicxas wrote: »

We'll see come our loss on Thursday and draw on Saturday

I'm ITK DYK

I didn't know you were a lesbian... :eek::P

Hangballlouie · 15-09-2015 08:21AM

Dickerty wrote: »

I didn't know you were a lesbian... :eek::P

All the men in Finglas are lesbians.

Lovely Bloke · 15-09-2015 08:23AM

Hangball Doughboy wrote: »

All the men in Finglas are lesbians.

no we aren't.

Vicxas · 15-09-2015 08:25AM

I'm from Finglas?

Lovely Bloke · 15-09-2015 08:26AM

Vicxas wrote: »

I'm from Finglas?

Sure isn't most of County Meath considered as Greater Finglas now?

"Commuter Belt".

Jon Stark · 15-09-2015 08:31AM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Gerrard on Balotelli.

Rodgers gamble not the transfer committee is what I take for from

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3233032/Steven-Gerrard-reveals-ran-rule-new-Liverpool-signing-training-session-Xabi-Alonso-El-Hadji-Diouf-Luis-Suarez-Mario-Balotelli.html

Not solid confirmation but I'm not surprised as I've always expected this to be the case.

Says a lot about the guy that ego allowed him to sign Mario, but ego also allowed him to quickly distance himself from having been the one who made the call.

No wonder the players seem to be sleepwalking through games when he's the Man that they're meant to get behind and play for. Loyalty he doesn't inspire.

Kirby · 15-09-2015 08:46AM

Here’s an example of what he did for me. On March 13, 2012 I scored a hat-trick at Anfield against Everton. It was the first hat-trick in 30 years of Merseyside derbies, since Ian Rush scored three at Goodison Park in 1982. It was made even better by the selfless magic Suarez sprinkled over me that night. Luis is no saint — and I’m not sure he would have done the same for Daniel Sturridge. There was always a little bit of needling rivalry between Sturridge and Suarez.

The body language between them spoke volumes. I remember pointing it out at the time to my liverpool mates and being told I was imagining things but hearing Gerrard talk about it makes a lot of sense to me. They always seemed more rivals than team mates.

This bit here though seems a bit low.

‘I had seen a staggering number of new signings walk into the Liverpool training ground. I watched every single one of their first training sessions with close attention, wondering whether we’d bought a star or another dud, a king or a prat, a Xabi Alonso or an El Hadji Diouf, a Luis Suarez or a Mario Balotelli.

Balotelli had nothing but good things to say publicly about Gerrard for it seems quite poor form for Gerrard to lay into him like that. He does say he has respect for him and that he occassionally made him smile but it comes off a bit patronising.

NyOmnishambles · 15-09-2015 08:55AM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Yeah, I kinda felt like this too....like it was better for him to leave, seemed to really be taking its toll on him mentally with the constant battle with H&G. It had just become a power struggle between them, with the football almost taking a back seat. That actually makes sense, given that his hands were totally tied in transfers - like only being able to buy from clubs that owed us money the previous summer etc. It just felt like it had come to a head, and was almost good for his sanity to take a step back.

I still firmly believe he'll manage us again though, and with success under a less insane ownership. At this stage, is there anyone left at the club apart from Ayre (who was Commercial Director at the time I think) who was there when he left?

That is pretty much exactly how I felt/feel about the subject

Didn't really want him to leave but felt it might be better for him if he did

Would love to see him back, would certainly be an improvement on what we have currently

OwaynOTT · 15-09-2015 09:57AM

Hangball Doughboy wrote: »

Get a girlfriend/boyfriend?

Get both, life will be full then. Well unless your girlfriend goes off with your boyfriend.

googled eyes · 15-09-2015 10:05AM

Hangball Doughboy wrote:

All the men in Finglas are lesbians.

Haha your sly dig went awry mon ami

15-09-2015 10:06AM

Kirby wrote: »

....

Balotelli had nothing but good things to say publicly about Gerrard for it seems quite poor form for Gerrard to lay into him like that. He does say he has respect for him and that he occassionally made him smile but it comes off a bit patronising.

Gerrard trained & played with balotelli, he obviously wasn't impressed by balotellis application, effort, contribution on the pitch. Gerrard is more than entitled to put whatever he wants in his book imo

5starpool · 15-09-2015 10:09AM

I don't get why people like Gerrard do an autobiography at all. Seriously, have they not got enough money?He must have earned at least 75m over the course of his career, and that's probably conservative given the amount of endorsements and so on a player of his profile would have.

I can understand a bit more from those that probably earned less or in an era before the really stupid money came into play, but the high profile ones from modern times should be a bit more discreet about some things I reckon.

Knex* · 15-09-2015 10:10AM

5starpool wrote: »

I don't get why people like Gerrard do an autobiography at all. Seriously, have they not got enough money?He must have earned at least 75m over the course of his career, and that's probably conservative given the amount of endorsements and so on a player of his profile would have.

Probably the sheer novelty of 'writing' a book.

But I suppose its hard to turn that money down when you can make it. That's financially securing another generation of the Gerrard clan by itself, probably.

15-09-2015 10:14AM

No PL title probably has him restless/unsatisfied to an extent, coming so close 2013/2014 was unexpected for him so not quite getting there hit hard imo, might be an element of release in a book.

I await the free PDF version patiently

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