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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    indy knows the score.

    About the same price as one of his average signings that gets loaned out and sold at a loss after a season of never playing.

    https://twitter.com/indykaila/status/642993347246882816


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭JohnDaniels


    Pyjamarama wrote: »
    Comments like that are ridiculous. Things are bad atm but the Hodgson era was more than just bad results. It was about a man who had no idea of the ethos of the club. Things have gone badly badly wrong for Rodgers but he understands the club and what managing it means. Two completely different fish.

    The amount of mediocrity we have in the squad after all the money that has been spent is shocking. He has also overseen the selling of our best youth produced player in a decade. Given the time and money he has got his legacy could be far more damaging to the club.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,688 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    How would people feel about Jose as the manager if he got the sack from Chelsea?

    I'd be disgusted to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    One person thinks Jose would be perfect for Liverpool.

    Gerrard: Mourinho would have been a "perfect match" for Liverpool
    “For me, the ideal situation would obviously have been for Mourinho to have managed Liverpool. He was linked with a move to Anfield a couple of times but it never materialised.

    “I know I’m biased, but I think it would have been a perfect match. The Liverpool fans would have loved him and he would have known exactly how to turn that love into adoration. He always told me about his deep respect for our supporters. Jose would have had a fantastic time bringing huge success to Liverpool.

    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/gerrard-mourinho-would-been-perfect-10044873


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,296 ✭✭✭shamrock55


    Pyjamarama wrote: »
    I think you're supporting the wrong club tbh. If you don't love Liverpool Football Club because it is Liverpool Football Club and all that it stands for then why bother supporting them?

    Btw this is not a pro Rodgers post, I think his time has come. He got the support he needed and it hasn't worked out. But to say all that matters is winning goes against everything we believe we are as a club. This isn't even a footballing point as I don't think its about playing attractive football but its about treating the club and its history with dignity, something Hodgson didn't do and for all his faults Rodgers has done.

    This is not worse than the Hodgson era but its bad enough at this stage that time should be called.

    Your picking me up wrong here mate, of course i love what club stands for and all that goes with it, what im saying is that does it really matter if a manager does or not, your saying roy didnt but at least brendan does ,but what good is brendans love and understanding of the club doing for our results and performance on the pitch - ill tell ya - jack **** thats what


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭Kerrigooney


    Seems every thought that enters Gerrard's head gets printed these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Seems every thought that enters Gerrard's head gets printed these days.


    He has to sell the book you know he is coming close to retiring and needs the money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,610 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    mav79 wrote: »
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    Just for context.

    This is a really important view on the situation by the way...lots of people are going to say 'it's only five games into the season, sacking him is knee jerk' - but it needs to be remembered that an ever bigger data trend of unacceptable performances / results is building.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,737 ✭✭✭✭blueser


    indy knows the score.

    About the same price as one of his average signings that gets loaned out and sold at a loss after a season of never playing.

    https://twitter.com/indykaila/status/642993347246882816
    And what will it cost them if they don't sack him? Almost inevitable continuing absence from the cash cow that is the Champions' League, also rans in the Premier League (every place higher you finish is worth a million, yeah?). I'll be very surprised if he's still there next august.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,610 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    By the way lads, what I'd love is for Klopp / Ancelotti to come in and us all to get behind him and strap ourselves in for the ride collectively. I feel like we've been arguing about managers ever since I started posting on here over eight year's ago with the thread constantly split into factions the whole way through.

    Monk / Pardew would only split us again. I'm tired. I long for the good times under Rafa, or even the 2000 - 2002 period under Houllier.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    MOTD Extra talking about the game, unfortunately with typical old school observation "character" was invoked rather than stuff like tactics.

    Peter Odemwingie rightly observed the folly of two right footed players on the left and Firmino on the right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Potential Underachiever


    So Houlihan scores a goal yesterday and now all of a sudden we should sign him!!! Well that has perked me up no end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,610 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    So Houlihan scores a goal yesterday and now all of a sudden we should sign him!!! Well that has perked me up no end.

    It was one poster's opinion tbf.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭JohnDaniels


    Not saying we should sign him but doesn't he have like 5 assists on top of the goal? He is having an impressive start to the season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,737 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Chelsea have conceded 17 goals in last 8 league games, it doesn't mean they should sack Jose. The East Bacon result was far worse than losing to Man U 3-1 , we had great chances to make it 1-1 before that penalty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,812 ✭✭✭brevity


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    This is a really important view on the situation by the way...lots of people are going to say 'it's only five games into the season, sacking him is knee jerk' - but it needs to be remembered that an ever bigger data trend of unacceptable performances / results is building.

    Not directed at you but this logic doesn't fly with me.

    It's irrelevant that its five games into the season - its been four years. No trophies, disaster in Europe and the highlight was a 2nd place finish largely driven by one of the best players in the world.

    Rodgers' hubris is his downfall. Nothing more nothing less.

    He's a bad carpenter. Foolish banging away with no clue of what to do. The transfer committee are giving him tools but he doesn't need them, he doesn't know how to use them, he knows best. He picks up a screw and a hammer and bangs away...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭Royal Legend


    in all honesty i have never taken to Brendan, imo, there is something false about him, something that has shown up in his private live, but we will keep that separate. (I have worked for a person who spouted ethics and honesty etc, but in his private live he was a cnut)

    More importantly, it looks now more than ever that Suarez covered serious cracks and that was based on have one of the top three players in the world at our club, on a par imo with Messi and Ronaldo, in the sense of what he could do, how he lead and how he could change a game.

    When Rafa arrived, he built a system around the average players he had at that time and won the CL, he then went about moulding what he wanted in a team over a couple of seasons and got to another CL final and was unlucky not to win.

    Brendan seems to have decided that he wants to play to a particular system or various systems, without allowing for the players he has at his disposal.
    whats more frightening, he then buys more players that look even before they come that they will not fit his system!

    Why did he buy Rickie Lambert last year? Why did he buy Benteke this year, unless he was going to setup to play to his strengths?
    Why did he buy Lallana last year and when the lad played well, drop him back to the bench, same with Moreno this season? why did he buy Sakho and now seems to have frozen him out? Why did he fkuc around Borini and Enrique, also the poor way he treated Ballotelli, (he was his scapegoat last season for everything.) Also not sure how Ings can fit into his system either.
    Last season he also played Gerrard in an area where teams figured him out and exposed him (past his best in that type of position) Plus he made no effort to replace Gerrard, maybe irreplaceable, but surely there was a world class center mid out there we could have gone after?

    He is the opposite of H****** ( i still do not recognize the time that cnut was in charge of Liverpool) in press conferences, where one played us down and lowered expectations to Brendan playing us up after we lose 3 -1, I am not too bothered other fans taking the piss in regards to this Character crap etc, as he has definitely toned it down this year, maybe under orders from FSG, who already sacked part of his backroom team.

    Unless we were now to go on a massive winning run, scoring loads of goals, i think he is one maybe two poor performances away from the sack and I would be very surprised if FSG are not sounding out a replacement in the background, whether that be Klopp, Ancellotti or some up and coming manager like Monk, Howe or Alex Neil

    But, I am not too despondent, been through this many times as a Liverpool supporter, it will change, the good times will come, even if it is a close season like two years ago or 2005-2008 under Rafa, or the run we had under Houlier, we will be back.

    YNWA


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭JohnDaniels


    Chelsea have conceded 17 goals in last 8 league games, it doesn't mean they should sack Jose. The East Bacon result was far worse than losing to Man U 3-1 , we had great chances to make it 1-1 before that penalty.

    Jose is a proven world class manager who just won the league AGAIN. His name and situation has no business near a debate about Rodgers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,610 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    At a boy Royal Legend, good stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭corwill


    indy knows the score.

    About the same price as one of his average signings that gets loaned out and sold at a loss after a season of never playing.

    https://twitter.com/indykaila/status/642993347246882816

    A bargain.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Potential Underachiever


    Not saying we should sign him but doesn't he have like 5 assists on top of the goal? He is having an impressive start to the season.

    4 assist and 1 goal I believe yes, irrelevant though, he reeks of mediocrity never mind factoring in what age he is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭Royal Legend


    Chelsea have conceded 17 goals in last 8 league games, it doesn't mean they should sack Jose. The East Bacon result was far worse than losing to Man U 3-1 , we had great chances to make it 1-1 before that penalty.

    You are a small bit deluded there, we were sh1te, just it does not look at that bad to you considering utd are not that far ahead of us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭Royal Legend


    MELTDOWN

    by the way people, we often laugh when the Utd, Arsenal or Chelsea forums (do the bluenoses have a forum? maybe being the peoples club they all communicate down their local or in the town hall) but they must be having some laugh at us going into freefall at the moment :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,296 ✭✭✭shamrock55


    4 assist and 1 goal I believe yes, irrelevant though, he reeks of mediocrity never mind factoring in what age he is.

    If he reeks of mediocrity tell me what our players reek of will ya


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Potential Underachiever


    by the way people, we often laugh when the Utd, Arsenal or Chelsea forums (do the bluenoses have a forum? maybe being the peoples club they all communicate down their local or in the town hall) but they must be having some laugh at us going into freefall at the moment :)

    Meh, the meltdown like the season so far has been fairly tame. Caling Rodgers a scumbag and a degree of hubris on the thread aside, it's been fairly weak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,737 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Jose is a proven world class manager who just won the league AGAIN. His name and situation has no business near a debate about Rodgers.

    My point is that to judge Rodgers on the results this season would be silly, it's early days and we all knew that the potential to lose some of these early fixtures was highly likely. Confidence has been knocked with fans and players but I have a feeling that things will improve 10 fold '' if'' Sturidge returns and forms a partnership with Benteke. The one think that's clear is we need help for Benteke. For Rodgers to play Ings and Firmino as wide deep lying midfield players was a cowardly approach to yesterdays game.
    You need a genuine threat in this league to wins games,to go there and to clearly play for a 0-0 was wrong, that's not Liverpool, that's not even Bournemouth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Potential Underachiever


    shamrock55 wrote: »
    If he reeks of mediocrity tell me what our players reek of will ya

    He is bang average, just because he's Irish and scored yesterday does not change that fact, he would be no addition to our squad, just because we have average players does not mean we should sign another one in his 30's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,071 ✭✭✭Milkers


    Over three years into your tenure at a club as big as Liverpool, with a massive budget at your disposal over multiple transfer windows and your starting back four with no injuries includes Joe Gomez, Martin Skrtel and Dejan Lovren.

    You have failed at your job as a football manager and should be sacked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭JohnDaniels


    My point is that to judge Rodgers on the results this season would be silly, it's early days and we all knew that the potential to lose some of these early fixtures was highly likely. Confidence has been knocked with fans and players but I have a feeling that things will improve 10 fold '' if'' Sturidge returns and forms a partnership with Benteke. The one think that's clear is we need help for Benteke. For Rodgers to play Ings and Firmino as wide deep lying midfield players was a cowardly approach to yesterdays game.
    You need a genuine threat in this league to wins games,to go there and to clearly play for a 0-0 was wrong, that's not Liverpool, that's not even Bournemouth.

    No one is judging him solely on results this season.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭Hangballlouie


    Some of those extracts from Gerrards book are cringey as fcuk. Wish he'd shut the **** up and wait till he's about 70 to release another book.


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