Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

SlickRic · 11-09-2015 08:07AM

I'm sorry, but if Steven Gerrard is telling the truth when he says he would've stayed had he been offered a coaching role, then the club needs a fúcking slap. Actually, more than a slap.

Utterly and completely stupid to let that experience and influence go when you don't have to.

Fúcking hell.

Tipsy McSwagger · 11-09-2015 08:09AM

Vicxas wrote: »

Is anyone else dreading tomorrow evenings match after the West Ham performance.

I'd take a draw right now.

54and56 · 11-09-2015 08:14AM

SlickRic wrote: »

I'm sorry, but if Steven Gerrard is telling the truth when he says he would've stayed had he been offered a coaching role, then the club needs a fúcking slap. Actually, more than a slap.

Utterly and completely stupid to let that experience and influence go when you don't have to.

Fúcking hell.

Stevie made his mind up to go to LA back in November/December and announced it over the Xmas period IIRC. At that time there were no plans to shake up the coaching staff. After the poor end to the season the coaching staff was restructured which could have created an opportunity for Stevie to do a Gigg's type role whilst remaining as a squad player but by then Stevie was contracted to LA.

He'll be back when he's finished playing.

SlickRic · 11-09-2015 08:22AM

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

Stevie made his mind up to go to LA back in November/December and announced it over the Xmas period IIRC. At that time there were no plans to shake up the coaching staff. After the poor end to the season the coaching staff was restructured which could have created an opportunity for Stevie to do a Gigg's type role whilst remaining as a squad player but by then Stevie was contracted to LA.

He'll be back when he's finished playing.

Still no foresight by the club at all to keep Stevie on board.

There was no reason for him to leave.

Luckycharms_74 · 11-09-2015 08:23AM

kfallon wrote: »

Will we be going with a diamond tomorrow?

Brendan thinks so

Iused2likebusts · 11-09-2015 08:28AM

kfallon wrote: »

Will we be going with a diamond tomorrow?

He could go 352
Mig
Skrtel lovren gomez
Clyne lucas firmino milner moreno
Ings benteke

Demosthenese · 11-09-2015 10:24AM

SlickRic wrote: »

Still no foresight by the club at all to keep Stevie on board.

There was no reason for him to leave.

There was every reason for him to leave, he wants to play football and as much as possible. He was never the type to sit on the bench for any game and decided that he could not be like a Giggs type player who would stick around long after he was deserving of a place in the squad.

He'll get a few years playing in America enjoy the experience and then come back hopefully with badges etc in tow. After that you never know.

54and56 · 11-09-2015 10:48AM

SlickRic wrote: »

Still no foresight by the club at all to keep Stevie on board.

There was no reason for him to leave.

There is/was actually. It's important for any individuals development that they are exposed to and experience different set ups and environments. He'll be a more rounded and better coach/manager that he'd otherwise be if all he had to draw on was a lifetime with one single club.

Show me one example who played his entire career with one top echelon club then up through the coaching roles within the same club to become manager of the club and was a real success as manager?

There may well be some but off the top of my head I can't think of any. I guess you could point to Gary Monk but he was with a host of clubs before Swansea and they aren't a top echelon club with the expectations and pressures that come with that.

bur · 11-09-2015 11:00AM

SlickRic wrote: »

I'm sorry, but if Steven Gerrard is telling the truth when he says he would've stayed had he been offered a coaching role, then the club needs a fúcking slap. Actually, more than a slap.

Utterly and completely stupid to let that experience and influence go when you don't have to.

Fúcking hell.

Not for me, we'd now be looking at the very real prospect of him becoming player manager at some point this season if that had of happened.

PhiloCypher · 11-09-2015 11:33AM

SlickRic wrote: »

I'm sorry, but if Steven Gerrard is telling the truth when he says he would've stayed had he been offered a coaching role, then the club needs a fúcking slap. Actually, more than a slap.

Utterly and completely stupid to let that experience and influence go when you don't have to.

Fúcking hell.

At the time he announced his retirement we were still in with a chance at fourth and there unlikely to be any vacancies. It's a bit captain hindsight for him to suggest he should have been given one of their roles now. That's forgetting he was pretty unequivocal about hating having his games tailored, would they have been tailored any less in a Player/coach role ?

This piece read like a reaction to a piece earlier in the week where he claimed to love his anonymity in LA , its like he's afraid to say he is enjoying himself over there without doing a follow up interview where he says how much he loves liverpool and would have stay'd if only .....

Rightly or wrongly I don't know whether Gerrard would ever be considered for a coaching role while Rodgers was manager, especially off the back of a poor season. We've only lost the one game this season and people are calling for Rodgers head, if we went through any prelonged period of poor form the pressure to sack Rodgers and appoint Gerrard as caretaker manager would be huge. Rodgers was never gonna allow that. LvG can get away with having a club legend as his assistant because of his stature in the game but even he is under pressure with Giggs waiting in the wings.

If by some miracle we get Klopp or Ancelloti as our next manager I'd be all for Stevie being brought in to learn the ropes but it was simply never going to happen under Rodgers as it would have been too destabilizing.

corwill · 11-09-2015 11:39AM

Does Gerrard have his badges? Has he ever taken a training session with the youths or any other team? What actual coaching credentials does he have to justify giving him a senior coaching position at a club with Liverpool's stature?

Polo_Mint · 11-09-2015 11:42AM

PhiloCypher wrote: »

At the time he announced his retirement we were still in with a chance at fourth and there unlikely to be any vacancies.

If he suggest this to your club at the time they should have made a Vacancy.

Hes was I believe your greatest ever player and Outstanding Captain.

Could and Should be Assistant Manager of Liverpool.

Maybe he didnt say anything when he was leaving

Ah, Maybe this

Liverpool only offered him a new one-year contract in November, and neither the club nor Gerrard had any enthusiasm for him joining Rodgers’s coaching staff in the summer. “Steven had an ambassadorial role at the club but there wasn’t a coaching offer made to him,” said Rodgers. “Steven hasn’t got his badges and he is not the sort who would go into coaching blind. His focus was very much on the present, which means playing, because he believes he can play on beyond this season.”

corwill · 11-09-2015 11:48AM

Polo_Mint wrote: »

Could and Should be Assistant Manager of Liverpool

After several years of accumulating coaching experience and proving himself as a coach, certainly.

Polo_Mint · 11-09-2015 11:51AM

corwill wrote: »

After several years of accumulating coaching experience and proving himself as a coach, certainly.

Yeah Edited. Surprised he doesn't have coaching badges. Alot of players start them early.

Jon Stark · 11-09-2015 12:02PM

SlickRic wrote: »

I'm sorry, but if Steven Gerrard is telling the truth when he says he would've stayed had he been offered a coaching role, then the club needs a fúcking slap. Actually, more than a slap.

Utterly and completely stupid to let that experience and influence go when you don't have to.

Fúcking hell.

Not surprised Rodgers wouldn't be having that. A guy like Stevie would have massive influence in the dressing room as a coach, and rightly or wrongly, it was a shrewd move by Rodgers to dodge that situation. IF true of course.

Elsewhere, typical that United announce that new De Gea deal a day before this game, reminds me of the kind of stroke Ferguson used to pull.

garra · 11-09-2015 12:07PM

bur wrote: »

Not for me, we'd now be looking at the very real prospect of him becoming player manager at some point this season if that had of happened.

Agree totally, having someone of the stature of Gerrard lurking in the management structure when things are not going well for the manager in the seat (whether it is Rodgers or ANOther) could be a recipe for disaster, as it would be all too easy to undermine the manager - especially when considering the UK media who would be pushing and dragging Gerrard into the hot seat by any means possible.

DaveSuarez · 11-09-2015 12:27PM

Grayditch wrote: »

I'd really like Rodgers to get the tactics right for this one.

martyos121 · 11-09-2015 12:54PM

DaveSuarez wrote: »

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/pV9KVzG. gif[/IMG]

The people that won't get this are going to be awful confused.

Knex* · 11-09-2015 01:09PM

Have we lost the game yet?

Seriously don't think I've ever felt so "meh" about a game before, especially against United. Its the absolute incarnation of Danny Ings, in terms of a footballing spectacle. Maybe that's why he's penned in to start, who knows.

Maybe, the game is so Danny Ings, that he'll melt into the background, becoming one with himself, and we'll essentially be playing with ten players.

International Breaks are still very much an underwhelming pile of balls.

x43r0 · 11-09-2015 01:30PM

DaveSuarez wrote: »

That is looped beautifully

Utopia Parkway · 11-09-2015 01:38PM

Andre Ayew is a Liverpool fan. Friday trivia.

MD1990 · 11-09-2015 01:44PM

Knex. wrote: »

Have we lost the game yet?

Seriously don't think I've ever felt so "meh" about a game before, especially against United. Its the absolute incarnation of Danny Ings, in terms of a footballing spectacle. Maybe that's why he's penned in to start, who knows.

Maybe, the game is so Danny Ings, that he'll melt into the background, becoming one with himself, and we'll essentially be playing with ten players.

International Breaks are still very much an underwhelming pile of balls.

There is no buzz for the game. As both teams are average & despite big spending there is a lack of big names especially in our team with no Coutinho.

martingriff · 11-09-2015 01:55PM

Everybody seem so certain that Gerrard could have suddenly come in and be a great coach and a assistant manager. Now I am not saying that he would not have been and would have been good to spring off the bench but there has been a lot of great players who have tried and been bad as coaches and managers Keane, Shearer, Barnes, Souness, Aldridge, Evans

11-09-2015 02:27PM

Gerrard should be assistant manager?

What nonsense.

No top club in their right mind would put an inexperienced man as 2nd in command.

MonkeyTennis · 11-09-2015 02:34PM

Wow.. Tiago Ilori has a mad London accent on him

K-9 · 11-09-2015 02:40PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Gerrard should be assistant manager?

What nonsense.

No top club in their right mind would put an inexperienced man as 2nd in command.

I don't get that one either.

Did Carragher ever get a coaching position?

rob316 · 11-09-2015 02:40PM

It's rare a great player makes a great manager/coach.

Not siding with Rodgers or the club but Rodgers doesn't have the stature or experience to deal with the pressure from the fan base over Gerrard on his coaching staff when results start to go downhill.
Gerrard was inexperienced and too big of a presence to have, if I'm Rodgers I don't see any positive and he's better off kicking a ball around in LA.

MentalMario · 11-09-2015 02:42PM

martingriff wrote: »

Everybody seem so certain that Gerrard could have suddenly come in and be a great coach and a assistant manager. Now I am not saying that he would not have been and would have been good to spring off the bench but there has been a lot of great players who have tried and been bad as coaches and managers Keane, Shearer, Barnes, Souness, Aldridge, Evans

Evans wasn't a bad manager. He never finished outside the top 4.

Souness wasn't a bad manager. He was an excellent one. Remember him at Blackburn, for example.

Keane brought Sunderland to the Premier League. Hardly a bad manager. Not amazing, but certainly not terrible.

5starpool · 11-09-2015 02:57PM

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Wow.. Tiago Ilori has a mad London accent on him

Well he was born there. I'm not sure what age he moved to Portugal at, but if he had the accent before he left speaking Portuguese wouldn't help him lose it.

klose · 11-09-2015 03:00PM

SlickRic wrote: »

I'm sorry, but if Steven Gerrard is telling the truth when he says he would've stayed had he been offered a coaching role, then the club needs a fúcking slap. Actually, more than a slap.

Utterly and completely stupid to let that experience and influence go when you don't have to.

Fúcking hell.

Nonsense, a few months ago Gerrard said he left as he wasent guaranteed first team action. Now he's saying he would have stayed had he been offered a coaching role, what will his story be next time?

Gerrard can cut his teeth elsewhere for a few years before he eyes up a coaching spot here.

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