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DCM 2015: Mentored Novices Thread
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Sounds like a good call, chalk it up and move on. Also see NE's post above. Now get to bed early (*runs off to practice what she preaches*)Well had a sh*te run tonight. 8 miles easy on the plan. Dropped the youngest to GAA training and left my car at the club heading out the clontarf road. First few miles went grand nice and steady legs loosed out by 2/3 miles. Lovely evening passing a few Raheny shamrocks out doing their training saying our hellos on the waypast. From mile 4 on the calves started to tighten and the Achilles started to hurt. As I pushed through I thought about LSR brought forward to Friday and didn't want to jeopardise that. Also remembered DG posting about the % of 3 missed miles v's the overall miles. Stopped and stretched at 5 miles and started again. Decided to listen to the body and pack it in at that stage. Rang the hubby to come get me. Not sure if it's a combination of increased miles and tiredness but really feeling it this week as do a lot others it seems or whether I'm missing my running buddies as I haven't had to do too many long miles on my own recently as I found tonight tough. Anyway home now had food just finished stretching and going to get to bed early tonight. Rest day tomorrow.
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It's not a good idea to weight your weekly total on the lsr. Anyone I've seen do this has failed miserably and painfully come marathon day
It's also a sure fire road to injury...We don't want that for you...
Far better to spread the load over the rest of the week, hence our gentle nagging nudging to up the number of days running to 4 minimum, five better.IMO with only 5 weeks of heavy training left, the shorter runs should be a prepp for the LSR's at this stage and skipping the odd small run will do no harm so long as the LSR goes well at the weekend.......best of luck.
*cough* You are completely contradicting the Boss Lady here Smashy * Cough* :eek:
FWIW, My opinion is that yes we do all have some bad runs but several bad short/midweek runs in a row can be an indicator of pushing the body too hard on weekend Long runs. If it's taking all week to recover from a long run then you are probably running them too fast. It mightn't have felt too fast a few weeks ago but now the mileage has increased these things will be magnified.
Just a general reminder to keep the pace down; we did warn yee
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*cough* You are completely contradicting the Boss Lady here Smashy * Cough* :eek:
FWIW, My opinion is that yes we do all have some bad runs but several bad short/midweek runs in a row can be an indicator of pushing the body too hard on weekend Long runs. If it's taking all week to recover from a long run then you are probably running them too fast. It mightn't have felt too fast a few weeks ago but now the mileage has increased these things will be magnified.
Just a general reminder to keep the pace down; we did warn yee
No offence intended Boss....please don't banish me to the moon....it is lonely up there :eek:
Just felt that skipping an odd short run due to tiredness/fatigue/niggle is not a bad thing at this stage in lieu of a good quality LSR........gonna back away slowly.....back away slowly
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No offence intended Boss....please don't banish me to the moon....it is lonely up there :eek:
Just felt that skipping an odd short run due to tiredness/fatigue/niggle is not a bad thing at this stage in lieu of a good quality LSR........gonna back away slowly.....back away slowly sounds about right Smash! 0 -
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Sitting here just in from the night shift with an icepack on left knee and another on the right inside ankle, count me in for the achey brakey parts at this stage of the week too, nothin big, just I find ice is great to get the repairs underway if theres a worry. When things arent busy I get a few hours free in the middle of the night so if I've brought the runners then it'd be rude not to put them on. So off around Sandyford Stillorgan Goatstown I went, even found Roebuck Road and did the dreaded 'heartbreak hill' - its the kind of incline that would cause problems BUT its really not long enough to do that so am not gonna worry about that anymore.
I got an 11 mile 'slower' run done in the wee small hours when it was just me and the 10 foxes I counted and a few taximen but otherwise the suburban roads are like country lanes at that hour and you can run up the middle of them if you want. 13 or 14 degrees and balmy but here and there you come into pockets of really cold air for a few steps and then its gone again, weird, never felt that before. Another weird one was the sight a passing driver had of me on the back of my trailer foam rolling at 2.15am in a pair of shorts and t-shirt - I'd say that fecked his night right up just thinkin WTF ?!
So Dubgal I hope you approve of my slowing-it-down attempt, I aimed for ten miles at 9mins each and brought mapmyrun with me to make it happen, heres what happened:
9.03
8.45
8.55
8.58
8.52
8.57
8.38
8.58
9.00
8.52
8.48
Thats about 10% of a slow down honestly, don't be worryin about my endurance, I'll show ya !0 -
betty swollox wrote: »Sorry whoops my username is deceptive, i'm actually the dad . Although my wife is training for a HM so yes she is the superhero
Wow fair play to her. And you too with such a young baby. Glad to hear the little one is ok.
I *may* have killed my other half if he decided he was training for a marathon when the kids were that small lol0 -
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Unless you have recently raced a half or 10 miler; there's a lot more to be gained and learned from racing it.
What will you learn from a 13 mile run at PMP? You could do that in training.
I've not done any races, excluding any parkruns, since the Great Limerick Run in May, so I may as well. I'm just very conscious of injuring myself!
Who's the 2 hour pacer then? 0 -
You sure were, am impressed! Nice going and good that you kept it comfortable after the raceHeaded out for the 1m w/u 9m pace 1m c/d around half 5 this evening and was very happy with. Warmup mile was a small bit faster than planned, also my heart rate monitor gave up the ghost for some reason so was proper running on feel there afterwards. Splits as follows:
9:47
9:35
9:25
9:29
9:25
9:23
9:29 (turned in the start of this mile so lost a few seconds)
9:26
9:28
9:26
10:41
Really loved the splits on that run and I was running comfortable throughout, generally these runs I do them down nearer to 9min/mi but given the race last weekend and listening to what Dubgal advised earlier I would see if I could stay around 9:30min/mi. Easy easy miles and rest now until lsr ok
Hehe great report there of your ghost running. I'd say you tripped that driver out alright :pac: And nice going on what we'll call the PMP runSitting here just in from the night shift with an icepack on left knee and another on the right inside ankle, count me in for the achey brakey parts at this stage of the week too, nothin big, just I find ice is great to get the repairs underway if theres a worry. When things arent busy I get a few hours free in the middle of the night so if I've brought the runners then it'd be rude not to put them on. So off around Sandyford Stillorgan Goatstown I went, even found Roebuck Road and did the dreaded 'heartbreak hill' - its the kind of incline that would cause problems BUT its really not long enough to do that so am not gonna worry about that anymore.
I got an 11 mile 'slower' run done in the wee small hours when it was just me and the 10 foxes I counted and a few taximen but otherwise the suburban roads are like country lanes at that hour and you can run up the middle of them if you want. 13 or 14 degrees and balmy but here and there you come into pockets of really cold air for a few steps and then its gone again, weird, never felt that before. Another weird one was the sight a passing driver had of me on the back of my trailer foam rolling at 2.15am in a pair of shorts and t-shirt - I'd say that fecked his night right up just thinkin WTF ?!
So Dubgal I hope you approve of my slowing-it-down attempt, I aimed for ten miles at 9mins each and brought mapmyrun with me to make it happen, heres what happened:
9.03
8.45
8.55
8.58
8.52
8.57
8.38
8.58
9.00
8.52
8.48
Thats about 10% of a slow down honestly, don't be worryin about my endurance, I'll show ya !
Hope the niggles behave. Don't forget, the physio is your friend....
I've not done any races, excluding any parkruns, since the Great Limerick Run in May, so I may as well. I'm just very conscious of injuring myself!
Who's the 2 hour pacer then?
Hi chrislad, +1 to meno's advice, you've been building well, this will be a good opportunity to test it all. Don't worry about injury from racing: you have far more chance of injury from not warming up/cooling down properly, not stretching in a timely manner, building too quickly, over training, not recovering enough, not seeing to a niggle in good time or....falling off the pavement. You'll be grand 0 -
I've not done any races, excluding any parkruns, since the Great Limerick Run in May, so I may as well. I'm just very conscious of injuring myself!
Who's the 2 hour pacer then?
apart from you now chrislad AFAIK one of the two hour pacers is the super inspiring marthastew so you'll be in excellent hands (as will the other pace groups!) 0 -
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