Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 (*EVERYONE READ MOD POST in OP)

Hangballlouie · 07-09-2015 12:23PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Michael Carrick reported to be out of the England game so he will probably be out for the weekend game.

I fully expect a miraculous recovery for the Liverpool game, though:rolleyes:

Never mind old man Carrick, will Sturidge be back?

54and56 · 07-09-2015 01:04PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Well we just got battered by West Ham and if Utd batter us that will be successive games and he would be rightly sacked if that happens.

No chance. FSG are mature business people who won't be panicked into making a knee jerk panic decision. Unless we are flirting with relegation or there is a total breakdown between BR and the squad he'll be given the full season to shape the team and implement his strategy. If in doing that he secures CL football or gives it a good crack and just comes up short but shows clear signs of improvement from last year then he'll be retained for the 2016/2017 season also.

FSG know that fans always think the manager on the green grass far away will always get more out of the available players than the current manager but thankfully they also know that watering, fertilising and refreshing the current manager is often the better option and that's what they've done with the back room changes and player acquisitions. It's over to BR now for the remainder of the season.

Dickerty · 07-09-2015 01:07PM

Hangball Doughboy wrote: »

Never mind old man Carrick, will Sturidge be back?

Hard to say even when they get him on the bench, would mean dropping Ings or Origi out of the 18. May wait for the Carlisle game, but we have United, Bordeaux and Norwich inside 8 days, so maybe we'll need the depth of squad...

shamrock55 · 07-09-2015 01:24PM

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

No chance. FSG are mature business people who won't be panicked into making a knee jerk panic decision. Unless we are flirting with relegation or there is a total breakdown between BR and the squad he'll be given the full season to shape the team and implement his strategy. If in doing that he secures CL football or gives it a good crack and just comes up short but shows clear signs of improvement from last year then he'll be retained for the 2016/2017 season also.

FSG know that fans always think the manager on the green grass far away will always get more out of the available players than the current manager but thankfully they also know that watering, fertilising and refreshing the current manager is often the better option and that's what they've done with the back room changes and player acquisitions. It's over to BR now for the remainder of the season.

Another hammering would not be panicing or a kneejerk reaction to sack rodgers, he has had 4 fcuking seasons now and there is not the slightest improvement,he still doesnt even know what formation best suits us, if wge get hammered against utd ill go over and fcuking drag him out of the club myself

corwill · 07-09-2015 01:31PM

shamrock55 wrote: »

ill go over and fcuking drag him out of the club myself

Ah you won't, though, really.

MonkeyTennis · 07-09-2015 01:35PM

Hes had 4 seasons??

monkey9 · 07-09-2015 01:41PM

I don't understand why people get so angry. Rodgers has actually done a decent job. I know Liverpool is one of the biggest clubs in the world, but we're not entitled to win the league or qualify for the Champions League.

I'm not saying there aren't people out there who could do a better job than Rodgers, but you'd swear he was doing a Hodgson and having us down near the relegation zone.

Alonso77 · 07-09-2015 01:58PM

monkey9 wrote: »

I don't understand why people get so angry. Rodgers has actually done a decent job. I know Liverpool is one of the biggest clubs in the world, but we're not entitled to win the league or qualify for the Champions League.

I'm not saying there aren't people out there who could do a better job than Rodgers, but you'd swear he was doing a Hodgson and having us down near the relegation zone.

Perhaps because going into his 4th season as manager our performances have been consistently poor and there seems to be a very scatterbrain approach to tactics and transfers. Just seems like a big mess at mo.

Grayditch · 07-09-2015 02:08PM

I'm not angry, I've just lost faith in our manager. 3 years is a long time, I think it's time for a change. Klopp would be a fantastic Christmas present, I think. I half expect Rodgers to string a few results together before then, but I'll still more than likely feel the same. I think we've seen the best of Rodgers. I'm not really "calling for his head" so to speak, but if I'm being honest, yeah. I think it's over.

Harry Palmr · 07-09-2015 02:08PM

Brief highlights package Germany 2 - 3 England (Ojo and Rossiter for Liverpool)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_HQtHFP2l8

Ojo really does look ENORMOUS as well as rapid. If he can have a good season on loan with Wolves I see no reason why he couldn't be part of the squad next year.

Dickerty · 07-09-2015 02:10PM

Alonso77 wrote: »

Perhaps because going into his 4th season as manager our performances have been consistently poor and there seems to be a very scatterbrain approach to tactics and transfers. Just seems like a big mess at mo.

Yet was labelled a tactical genius by many season before last, and again last season when we were 11/12 games unbeaten after going 3 at the back.

A lot of people attack his personality, so even when successful, they will say it's all down to something other than him. That's the lot of a manager.

shamrock55 · 07-09-2015 02:10PM

monkey9 wrote: »

I don't understand why people get so angry. Rodgers has actually done a decent job. I know Liverpool is one of the biggest clubs in the world, but we're not entitled to win the league or qualify for the Champions League.

I'm not saying there aren't people out there who could do a better job than Rodgers, but you'd swear he was doing a Hodgson and having us down near the relegation zone.

We should only have 3pts this season and have really only scored 1 goal, we should also have 5 goals against, 5 games ago we lost 6-1 to stoke, our last game we lose 3-0 at home and you dont understand why people are angry?? Do us a favour and crawl back under whatever rock you came

Harry Palmr · 07-09-2015 02:13PM

shamrock55 wrote: »

We should only have 3pts this season and have really only scored 1 goal, we should also have 5 goals against, 5 games ago we lost 6-1 to stoke, our last game we lose 3-0 at home and you dont understand why people are angry?? Do us a favour and crawl back under whatever rock you came

Cool your jets eh?

Dickerty · 07-09-2015 02:15PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Brief highlights package Germany 2 - 3 England (Ojo and Rossiter for Liverpool)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_HQtHFP2l8

Ojo really does look ENORMOUS as well as rapid. If he can have a good season on loan with Wolves I see no reason why he couldn't be part of the squad next year.

I like that he's ditched the stupid hairdo, looks like he's concentrating on only football (and I know it's only a cosmetic thing).

What a pass by Rossiter on 40 seconds. At that level with a bit of space, he looks top drawer. Always so calm, always talking to players around him.
Get some growth hormones into him!

Agent Coulson · 07-09-2015 02:18PM

It's only a matter of time till we start hearing ..

Brendan Rodgers teams always have a good second half to the season lets give him till next summer.

Harry Palmr · 07-09-2015 02:22PM

Dickerty wrote: »

I like that he's ditched the stupid hairdo, looks like he's concentrating on only football (and I know it's only a cosmetic thing).

Never overlook the importance of a barnet. When Lucas chopped off his girly locks he became a better player. Well it might have been purely co-incidental but I think a haircut indicates intent. Like buying a suit!

Magico Gonzalez · 07-09-2015 02:24PM

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Hes had 4 seasons??

this is what happens, someone "popular" amongst the anti rodgers crowd makes a mistake and it gets reposted again and again.

he has had 3 seasons and a handful of games in his fourth season. He probably needs a 4th place of a very good effort at it to keep the job.

Dickerty · 07-09-2015 02:25PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Never overlook the importance of a barnet. When Lucas chopped off his girly locks he became a better player. Well it might have been purely co-incidental but I think a haircut indicates intent. Like buying a suit!

Well I got a haircut today, in preparation for my new job next week (same company) - so maybe there is something in that!

Disclosure: I get my hair cut every month as it is...:rolleyes:

Dickerty · 07-09-2015 02:26PM

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

this is what happens, someone "popular" amongst the anti rodgers crowd makes a mistake and it gets reposted again and again.

he has had 3 seasons and a handful of games in his fourth season. He probably needs a 4th place of a very good effort at it to keep the job.

I think it's 4th place or nothing. Has spent the money, was allowed to ship out players he didn't want to use, etc.
I am more positive about him than most (I believe the players carry as much responsibility as him), but this has to be his last chance to prove himself.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 07-09-2015 02:27PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Never overlook the importance of a barnet. When Lucas chopped off his girly locks he became a better player. Well it might have been purely co-incidental but I think a haircut indicates intent. Like buying a suit!

Dickerty wrote: »

Well I got a haircut today, in preparation for my new job next week (same company) - so maybe there is something in that!

Disclosure: I get my hair cut every month as it is...:rolleyes:

Hair.

It's very overrated, tbh.

Harry Palmr · 07-09-2015 02:28PM

I'm getting to that point myself.

Turtyturd · 07-09-2015 02:29PM

monkey9 wrote: »

I don't understand why people get so angry. Rodgers has actually done a decent job. I know Liverpool is one of the biggest clubs in the world, but we're not entitled to win the league or qualify for the Champions League.

I'm not saying there aren't people out there who could do a better job than Rodgers, but you'd swear he was doing a Hodgson and having us down near the relegation zone.

Biggest issue I have is that he came in with all this fanfare (mainly from himself) bout his philosophy and putting in a structure throughout the club from top to bottom which would ensure a consistent style across all teams and allow the removal of parts without disrupting the whole.

In 3 years he can't even manage consistency in the team he manages, and the closest he has got is the continuation of the sh*te from last season carrying over to this season.

monkey9 · 07-09-2015 02:31PM

shamrock55 wrote: »

We should only have 3pts this season and have really only scored 1 goal, we should also have 5 goals against, 5 games ago we lost 6-1 to stoke, our last game we lose 3-0 at home and you dont understand why people are angry?? Do us a favour and crawl back under whatever rock you came

Charming.

Magico Gonzalez · 07-09-2015 02:34PM

Dickerty wrote: »

I think it's 4th place or nothing. Has spent the money, was allowed to ship out players he didn't want to use, etc.
I am more positive about him than most (I believe the players carry as much responsibility as him), but this has to be his last chance to prove himself.

thats fair enough i reckon, a mid season change is never a good idea, you are throwing away the season basically.

he will get the year anyway, so i would hope that fans will respect that and get behind the manager. Negativity wont help anyone

Dickerty · 07-09-2015 02:39PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Hair.
It's very overrated, tbh.

My debs date (a trainee hairdresser) told me I would probably go bald based on my hairline. That was in 1990. Hair is basically the exact same, with some greying!

But then, she was an Italian crazy woman!

OwaynOTT · 07-09-2015 03:29PM

How the **** would you have hair left following Liverpool?

LiamoSail · 07-09-2015 03:31PM

Dickerty wrote: »

I think it's 4th place or nothing. Has spent the money, was allowed to ship out players he didn't want to use, etc.
I am more positive about him than most (I believe the players carry as much responsibility as him), but this has to be his last chance to prove himself.

United, City, Chelsea & Arsenal all have better sides, are wealthier, and are a stronger draw for players. By right, Liverpool should finish fifth, any higher and the manager has exceeded expectations, any lower and he has failed to meet expectations.

Personally I'd keep Rodgers once we finish at least fifth, as I'd judge that as a par, unless there is someone better available to take over. If Klopp were willing, I'd sack Rodgers in the morning

K-9 · 07-09-2015 03:40PM

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

No chance. FSG are mature business people who won't be panicked into making a knee jerk panic decision. Unless we are flirting with relegation or there is a total breakdown between BR and the squad he'll be given the full season to shape the team and implement his strategy. If in doing that he secures CL football or gives it a good crack and just comes up short but shows clear signs of improvement from last year then he'll be retained for the 2016/2017 season also.

FSG know that fans always think the manager on the green grass far away will always get more out of the available players than the current manager but thankfully they also know that watering, fertilising and refreshing the current manager is often the better option and that's what they've done with the back room changes and player acquisitions. It's over to BR now for the remainder of the season.

As somebody who'd defend Rodgers and believes any Liverpool manager needs time, -Hodgson, it is very conceivable he'd be gone by Xmas. We need to be getting out of the Europa group and in contention for 4th, a repeat of the first half of last season would bring big questions for him to answer considering the backing he has got financially the last 2 Summers.

Alonso77 · 07-09-2015 04:52PM

Dickerty wrote: »

Yet was labelled a tactical genius by many season before last, and again last season when we were 11/12 games unbeaten after going 3 at the back.

A lot of people attack his personality, so even when successful, they will say it's all down to something other than him. That's the lot of a manager.

We should be worried about the performances in the here and now which in essence are a continuation of how last season finished. How anyone is not concerned by this is also concerning.

Magico Gonzalez · 07-09-2015 06:20PM

Alonso77 wrote: »

We should be worried about the performances in the here and now which in essence are a continuation of how last season finished. How anyone is not concerned by this is also concerning.

Concerning = the hyperbole and over reaction to a bad home loss.

Personally I'll be keeping my toys in the pram until after Christmas, at least.

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