I ordered a Lily

CabanSail · 02-09-2015 02:12AM #1

Recently I ordered a Lily Camera on the last day of their half price pre-order promotion.

Delivery is not due until May 2016.

Did anyone else buy one?

I think the early orders are due to ship in Feb 2016.

Balfey1972 · 02-09-2015 10:23AM

CabanSail wrote: »

Recently I ordered a Lily Camera on the last day of their half price pre-order promotion.

Delivery is not due until May 2016.

Did anyone else buy one?

I think the early orders are due to ship in Feb 2016.

Looks like a nice piece of kit Cabansail.

With the changes to the legislation here I got rid of my drone. I was at the http://uaai.ie/ open day last Friday week and it was an interesting insight as to what is coming down the tracks.

They reckon there are over 4000 of them in use in Ireland with only 80 registered with the IAA currently.

Myksyk · 02-09-2015 11:42AM

Interesting. Looks like a fantastic piece of kit for documenting a trip or activity.

magicbastarder · 02-09-2015 12:19PM

Balfey1972 wrote: »

With the changes to the legislation here I got rid of my drone. I was at the http://uaai.ie/ open day last Friday week and it was an interesting insight as to what is coming down the tracks.

They reckon there are over 4000 of them in use in Ireland with only 80 registered with the IAA currently.

it's an interesting area for debate; issues such as privacy and safety which we haven't really had to deal with before.

for example, there's been issues fighting wildfires in california because they've not been able to send helicopters in due to the multiple people filming the fires with their drones. not that that's an immediate problem in ireland, obviously.

Myksyk · 02-09-2015 01:24PM

These are an interesting take on the drone issue insofar as they only follow you (or whoever has the 'home' signal) and they're limited in how far they can travel from that signal. Are they even drones or just stickless selfie sticks!?

Iancar29 · 02-09-2015 05:13PM

Balfey1972 wrote: »

With the changes to the legislation here I got rid of my drone. I was at the http://uaai.ie/ open day last Friday week and it was an interesting insight as to what is coming down the tracks.

They reckon there are over 4000 of them in use in Ireland with only 80 registered with the IAA currently.

Hey Balfey , what changes are happening?

Current regulations is that you only need a license to use them commercially...
Also the normal height restrictions and not flying near any buildings / airports and the likes...

pegasus1 · 02-09-2015 05:44PM

Cool pressie that would be, but yikes no avoidance tech installed, just don't forget its following you when you enter the house...:D

http://qz.com/404236/this-cool-new-selfie-drone-promises-to-up-your-aerial-selfie-game/

thebaz · 02-09-2015 06:33PM

not for me, I like the tactile feal of an old camera in my hand - the more advanced technology becomes, the more I yearn for simplicity

uck51js9zml2yt · 02-09-2015 06:37PM

pegasus1 wrote: »

Cool pressie that would be, but yikes no avoidance tech installed, just don't forget its following you when you enter the house...:D

http://qz.com/404236/this-cool-new-selfie-drone-promises-to-up-your-aerial-selfie-game/

Never mind the price tag:) I nearly choked when I saw it...but it looks a really cool piece of kit.

Balfey1972 · 02-09-2015 07:12PM

Iancar29 wrote: »

Hey Balfey , what changes are happening?

Current regulations is that you only need a license to use them commercially...
Also the normal height restrictions and not flying near any buildings / airports and the likes...

The definition of commercial now could include facebook and youtube as if you are posting footage there you can use it to achieve additional likes and or income from ads.

New commercial requirements here - http://uaai.ie/index.php/get-licensed/
Much tougher now to achieve the licence.

They have a number of cases in the courts at the moment and they will be getting press time I would imagine as they are heard.

Facebook and youtube are being monitored for footage.
There was footage at the start of the summer of someone using it on the old airport road recording the planes coming in. Mad stuff altogether.

One area which is really a can of worms both for personal and commercial users is that your are recording and capturing data and under the data protection act you should be registered with the data commissioners office and have to comply with the data use, storage etc.

I think it is going to remain a big grey area for some time .

pegasus1 · 02-09-2015 10:19PM

thebaz wrote: »

not for me, I like the tactile feal of an old camera in my hand - the more advanced technology becomes, the more I yearn for simplicity

Cardboard pinhole camera heading your way...:D

CabanSail · 03-09-2015 01:38AM

thebaz wrote: »

not for me, I like the tactile feal of an old camera in my hand - the more advanced technology becomes, the more I yearn for simplicity

I fully understand.

Funny enough that is what attracted me to the Lily. If it lives up to the promo it should be simple. Flies itself and finds it's way back home.

I would have liked to be able to have more flexibility but for the price it seems quite good. The other options are way out of my budget, so would this at full price. With others you pay more for the drone and then have to buy a camera to mount on it. The waterproof aspect is also a big selling point. I want to use it on my Houseboat while cruising. The company may also be interested in images of other boats in the fleet. This being done over water would be very scary in a different drone.

Hopefully there will be firmware updates for more options and I would like to have RAW files but you can't always get what you want (Thanks Mick)

Saruman · 03-09-2015 08:02AM

That's ridiculously cool. At first I thought, meh... another drone. Then I watched the video!

pullandbang · 03-09-2015 10:55AM

Consider the Lily......:D

sheesh · 03-09-2015 11:01AM

seems well thought out and the fact that it is waterproof and floats is a real selling point.

there are so many activities that something like this could be used for that I suspect every outdoor activity company will be using them.

just remember to turn it on. don't just throw it into the air!:D

Saruman · 03-09-2015 11:19AM

sheesh wrote: »

there are so many activities that something like this could be used for that I suspect every outdoor activity company will be using them.

Such as the photowalk on Saturday

Wabbit Ears · 05-09-2015 12:26PM

Balfey1972 wrote: »

The definition of commercial now could include facebook and youtube as if you are posting footage there you can use it to achieve additional likes and or income from ads.

New commercial requirements here - http://uaai.ie/index.php/get-licensed/
Much tougher now to achieve the licence.

They have a number of cases in the courts at the moment and they will be getting press time I would imagine as they are heard.

Facebook and youtube are being monitored for footage.
There was footage at the start of the summer of someone using it on the old airport road recording the planes coming in. Mad stuff altogether.

One area which is really a can of worms both for personal and commercial users is that your are recording and capturing data and under the data protection act you should be registered with the data commissioners office and have to comply with the data use, storage etc.

I think it is going to remain a big grey area for some time .

I don't think this device actually fits in the requirements as stated because its not piloted. There would have to be a completely different set of rules, standards and requirements for the ownership of devices that fly themselves autonomously. I don't think that you could even successfully argue that the person with the homing beacon is the pilot as the homing beacon is not controlled, its a dumb transmitter .You could put it on a car or another radio controlled device, an animal and so on.

Kenny Logins · 07-09-2015 09:38AM

Look like a very interesting device, but I'm curious to see what the digital gimballing looks like. If it's anything like YouTube's "stabilize footage" function, it could be messy.

Alexthegrater · 18-05-2016 06:10AM

I have my doubts about this thing, it's really just a long selfie stick if you think about it. All ot can do is follow you, with the camera focused on you. That's my perspective anyway, I'd suggest a DJI or Yuneec with better battery and camera and infinitely more capabilities. Some YouTube reviews make it look a bit dodgy too, it's erratic at best, dangerous at worst.

magicbastarder · 18-05-2016 07:14AM

CabanSail wrote: »

Delivery is not due until May 2016.

well?

CabanSail · 18-05-2016 09:25PM

Shipping in Summer 2016 is what I have been told.

I have contacted them for an update as it may be better to have it delivered to me in Ireland when I am there.

I agree that a DJI etc. would have more capabilities but not in the price range I got this on pre-purchase. It is also handy that it is waterproof and able to launch/land in the water. I have some work in mind for it.

sunny2004 · 21-05-2016 06:33PM

Love it and now I want one haha..

Very cool device and I can see where the tech could go with time..

Alexthegrater · 05-06-2016 03:33PM

Now shipping in the autumn..

Hugh_C · 10-06-2016 05:03PM

Isn't there only a fixed battery in the Lily so you can't even bring spares? That was the immediate downside when I read about it last year.

CabanSail · 11-06-2016 09:15AM

The unit is sealed to get the waterproof rating. That means the battery is sealed inside. The inability to change batteries is a downside but being waterproof is an advantage which offsets that for me.

Alexthegrater · 30-06-2016 07:32AM

Still no news, their Facebook page is going quiet too, there's some aerial purportedly from a lily, but it seems to have been heavily edited, no more than a few seconds at a time of continuous footage. I do hope they can fulfill the 60,000 pre paid orders when they sort it out..

ScumLord · 01-07-2016 02:51PM

I'm a bugger for forgetting to turn off my camera and finding it dead the next time I go to use it. Would want to make sure that things fully charged before you go throwing it off a bridge.

CabanSail · 01-07-2016 03:59PM

I did hear of someone using a drone on a cruise ship who must have been quite a novice. They set it off with the "Return to Home" function active. It did just that and returned to the position it was when they launched it, but the ship was no longer there and the drone ended up swimming with the fishes.

ScumLord · 01-07-2016 04:43PM

Thats' the scary thing about the automated ones. They could decide they don't like you and just feck off doing their own thing.

CabanSail · 02-07-2016 05:21PM

ScumLord wrote: »

They could decide they don't like you and just feck off doing their own thing.

These things are becoming far too human.

Alexthegrater · 14-08-2016 03:26PM

Yes CabanSail, far too human..

They are late to arrive and don't live up to expectations..

I ordered a Lily

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