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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Bungy Girl wrote: »
    Love a good table ;)

    Wow, you are going to rock this marathon!

    Nothing is certain!! during the LSR on sunday I decided no way I was even doing the marathon. Then on Monday, I realised if I had done another 6 miles at LSR pace, I would still be ahead of last year. :rolleyes:
    You had even less mileage than me in the approach to DCM 2014!!! (until I got injured 4 weeks out of course). Looking like big progress ahead I'd say :)

    I know, I was mad to even consider doing a marathon last year on such a low base... I realise now! :eek: such a novice :)
    Firedance wrote: »
    + 1 to rocking the marathon, you're also gonna hit 1,000 miles before the year is out...... :)

    all going well, should hit 1,000 before October is out :) touch wood


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭Neady83


    I love tables :):) It must be a sign, I just totted up mine and I'm on exactly 820 miles for the YTD :) If I can do half as well as you, I'll be doing excellent :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    annapr wrote: »
    Nothing is certain!! during the LSR on sunday I decided no way I was even doing the marathon.

    You what now? Did I miss that part of the conversation :D glad to hear sense returned on Monday :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Neady83 wrote: »
    I love tables :):) It must be a sign, I just totted up mine and I'm on exactly 820 miles for the YTD :) If I can do half as well as you, I'll be doing excellent :)

    hah, and what about the other 10,000 miles or so you did cycling, hiking, hiking the bike etc.... !!!! i'm only in the ha'penny place here :p

    ...kayaking, swimming, etc....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Firedance wrote: »
    You what now? Did I miss that part of the conversation :D glad to hear sense returned on Monday :p

    :) it was a conversation I had with myself somewhere around Broombridge... see I can't be left on my own... then I told myself to shut up and just get as far as Phibsborough and it would be ok.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    annapr wrote: »
    :) it was a conversation I had with myself somewhere around Broombridge... see I can't be left on my own... then I told myself to shut up and just get as far as Phibsborough and it would be ok.

    Surely the first thing that comes into anyone's mind when they're around Broombridge is to run, not the contrary. No? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    Surely the first thing that comes into anyone's mind when they're around Broombridge is to run, not the contrary. No? :D

    :pac: yes, exactly... just get to Phibsborough and relative safety :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Wednesday 2 Sept, Thursday 3rd: nada
    I was really looking forward to the 12 mile MLR with intervals at HMP, feeling all confident after last week, when I got a double hit... I pulled a muscle somewhere deep in my armpit (i know, sounds weird, I'm blaming it on a combination of lifting shopping bags and having a 5 year old hanging out of me), quite painful.

    I also had a flare up of an autoimmune thing I get from time to time (not serious, very infrequent since I started running regularly) and between the two and popping one Difene for the pain (I don't care what the purists say, Difene is my friend), was completely knocked out on Wednesday. By knocked out, I mean almost comatose. Improved on Thursday but still very wiped out so decided not to risk running.

    Friday, 4 Sept: 8 miles easy
    8.1 mi @ 9:57/mi; 13K @ 6:11/Km

    Felt a lot better this morning, considered trying the session, but was advised better to leave it, especially ahead of an LSR at the weekend. Headed out the sea front, a half loop of St Anne's, back in the Howth road. I was fine for the first 8k or so, then really struggled, felt like the end of an LSR for the last bit, which was thankfully downhill. I probably should have done a shorter run, but very conscious of needing to keep the miles up. Anyhow, no harm done, I feel much better now.

    Ready for cheerleading duty tomorrow, looking forward to watching the Lakes 10K.... and best of luck to all running it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Saturday, 5 Sept: Cross training
    Brisk walking around the lakes of Blessington to get ourselves into position for cheerleading. Followed by lots of jumping up and down and shouting inane encouragement at random runners :)

    Less brisk walk up Clonliffe road, followed by tough climb to the Upper Hogan and more jumping up and down and shouting inane encouragement at GAA players :)

    No wonder I woke up with a sore throat Sunday morning.

    Enjoyed watching the Lakes 10k, great to see DG, BG, Murph, FD all getting their PB's. Lovely location and event.

    Sunday, 6 Sept: 18 Mile LSR
    Plan: 20 miles -- 10 easy, followed by 10 steady ...
    Actual: 18 miles @ 10:23/mi; 29km @ 6:27/km (7k steady and 5k almost steady)

    The plan last week was for 18 miles and I did 20, intended another 20 yesterday but only managed 18... and it felt much harder.

    Went out just before the throw in for the hurling final, so I had Marty Morrissey (:eek:) for company this week. Terrible commentator, I miss Micheal O Muircheartaigh. Through Phibsborough, Cabra to the Park, up and down the length of Chesterfield with a toilet stop at the Visitor Centre. I did eye the gully aquinn uses but thought it probably not as socially acceptable on a busy Sunday afternoon.

    Decided to start the 'steady' section after 13k, on the theory that I could save a couple of slow miles for the end. According to the instructions, easy pace was to be 15-20% slower than MP (c. 6:45/Km), steady was to be 5% slower than MP (c 6:10/Km). I started the steady section heading down Chesterfield and between that and enjoying running a bit faster, I did the first few Km too fast, more like MP. I blame the hurling (poor oul' Galway).

    My favourite part of this run was from Military Road to the Furry Glen... passing rabbits and a herd of deer, only the antlers really visible as they sat in the long grass. And I was motoring here, took the Upper Glen Road very strong, imagining I was close to the end of the Half and nailing it :) My enthusiasm came back to bite me pretty quickly, I took a phone call on the way up out of the Furry Glen so walked a bit, then found it really hard to re-start. Normally I would hit the trails here, but it was getting later (around 6pm) so I decided to stay on the roads, really struggling now. This is the point where I would have baled on the run, except that I was so far from home and from a bus stop, that I might as well keep plodding away. Steady pace was abandoned, but the effort felt harder than steady!

    On the plus side, I did enjoy the downhill on the North Road, and just told myself, get out of the park and you're nearly home. I knew I was short of 20 miles, but no way I could bring myself to try to make it up, 18 would be fine.

    Out onto the NCR, looking longingly at the time on the bus stop -- 13 minutes to the next bus, might as well keep running. The next bus stop said the same, hah, I'm keeping pace with the bus, but no, there were all sorts of traffic diversions after the match. Stopped at Hanlon's Corner for a water refill, then back through Phibsborough, down the canal, avoiding the pubs in Drumcondra... weaving through people even more unsteady on their feet than I was :)

    You can stop at 28k, keep going to 29k... stopped the watch 200m from home, finally hitting the 29k/18miles.

    This was a hard run, much tougher than last week's 20 miles. Probably because I was out of sorts this week and missed the midweek session. Really glad I got it done though and enjoyed the first half.

    Only 50Km/31 miles for the week and 3 days running... should have been 45+ miles. Another 45+ week on the schedule for this week, must do better!!
    :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    annapr wrote: »
    Saturday, 5 Sept:

    I did eye aquinn's gully but thought it probably not as socially acceptable on a busy Sunday afternoon.

    :cool:

    :eek: Don't comment, don't comment ...... :p

    Well done on grinding it out yesterday. The ability to do that goes a long way when running & you know now you can do that :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    kit3 wrote: »
    :eek: Don't comment, don't comment ...... :p

    Well done on grinding it out yesterday. The ability to do that goes a long way when running & you know now you can do that :)

    ooops, i must be really shattered after that run, I thought running was supposed to make you more mentally sharp but it took a while for your comment to register. Duh...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭Neady83


    Well done Anna, a really honest read. Sorry it was a tough one for you too. It has given me new found respect for 26.2 miles :) All this will make us tough cookies when the big day comes about so it will all have been worth it (I hope) :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Neady83 wrote: »
    Well done Anna, a really honest read. Sorry it was a tough one for you too. It has given me new found respect for 26.2 miles :) All this will make us tough cookies when the big day comes about so it will all have been worth it (I hope) :)

    so long as we have enough left to stumble into McGrattans afterwards!!! you'll be there before me, so keep a corner :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    Nice Log Annapr. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭aquinn


    Oh great thanks, I get a piss in the ditch mention but not AMAZING supporter for the Lakes 10km and the 8,000 steps we walked. HUH. Not even a flapjack mention.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    18 miles is still 18 miles so good on you for pushing through, have you done out your plan for this weeks miles??

    thanks again for the most amazing support on Saturday :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    aquinn wrote: »
    Oh great thanks, I get a piss in the ditch mention but not AMAZING supporter for the Lakes 10km and the 8,000 steps we walked. HUH. Not even a flapjack mention.

    it's not ALL about you, y'know... :p:p:p i thought you were getting enough cheerleading kudos elsewhere :)

    the flapjacks were good though, thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Firedance wrote: »
    18 miles is still 18 miles so good on you for pushing through, have you done out your plan for this weeks miles??

    thanks again for the most amazing support on Saturday :)

    yes, I am feverishly working out how to make it add up to 45 miles without actually doing anything :cool:

    the plan is 14 miles on Weds, 18 on Sunday... so I think I can figure out the rest :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭aquinn


    annapr wrote:
    the flapjacks were good though, thanks!


    Good?
    18 miles only ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    ^^^^ :D:D:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Mrs Mc


    Great running Anna great report :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Great running Anna, the mojo looks like it's well and truly back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Have been entertaining visitors so updating for last week.... not a pretty picture.

    Tuesday, Sept 8: 5ish miles Easy
    5.6 mi @ 10:02/mi; 9 K @ 6:14/km

    To the wooden bridge and back although Garmin seems to think it's further than the usual 5 miles. Whatever.

    I have been fighting a cold this week and didn't feel strong on this run -- by the time I got home I was dripping sweat and exhausted. This should not be the case after a short run on a lovely day.

    Wednesday, Sept 9
    the MLR for this week is 14 miles with 10 @ HMP :eek: I was hoping the cold would feel better today but has now progressed to a cough, so I think it's wise to take today off and try the MLR tomorrow. I feel like such a wimp and it's annoying that I can't seem to keep the momentum going from week to week.

    Thursday, Sept 10: Sick... still wiped out, RHR high so advised to rest.

    Friday, Sept 11: probably could have run today but picked up visitor from airport and drove to Donegal instead.

    Saturday, Sept 12: 5 miles easy
    5.3 mi @ 9:59/mi; 8.5 Km @ 6:12/km

    In Donegal, the usual local loop. Legs felt great, full of energy, head and chest not so much, still a bit congested, but didn't really tire until the very end so that's positive.

    Also did a 2 hour hike in the afternoon, not too strenuous, 800ft gentle climb.

    Sunday, Sept 13: 2 hours easy
    19k, 11.8 mi
    11.8 mi @ 10:09/mi; 19 Km @ 6:19/km approx 700ft elevation gain

    Beautiful morning in the hills, spectacular. Didn't want to risk the 18 miles in the plan so decided to keep this at 2 hours. Still very congested, coughing, sinus headache so wasn't feeling great. Started to feel better as the run went on though and did a few steady km. This was our usual... cross the big hill then turn around and cross it again on the way back, so my breathing was very laboured at times, but was delighted to have a few faster km at the end. The last 6 Km were at MP.

    Weekly total: 36.5 Km/ 22.7 mi :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    tang1 wrote: »
    Great running Anna, the mojo looks like it's well and truly back.

    Thanks B.... looks like you jinxed me :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    how's the cold today Anna? better to get it now then later & hopefully thats it done & dusted - echinacea daily between now & 26th Oct!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Where does this leave the marathon training?

    I was getting very annoyed about missing yet another midweek session, more enforced rest days, starting to think maybe I should give up on DCM altogether.

    Then my infinitely more rational OH gave me some good advice: first, if you're sick you shouldn't be running, but you need to move on and forget about runs you've missed. You will miss some days of the plan, maybe even some weeks of it. That doesn't mean you don't do it, you just adjust your targets, maybe do it slower on the day, but try to enjoy it. Keep going with the plan and make a call closer to the time.

    I realised I have been letting myself get oppressed by not hitting the plan targets, thinking about it in a very binary way -- all or nothing. But I still have some good training done. The decision point for me will be if I don't think I can do better than last year! But I think there's still time to get a few good weeks of training done. So we'll see.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    annapr wrote: »
    Where does this leave the marathon training?

    I was getting very annoyed about missing yet another midweek session, more enforced rest days, starting to think maybe I should give up on DCM altogether.

    Then my infinitely more rational OH gave me some good advice: first, if you're sick you shouldn't be running, but you need to move on and forget about runs you've missed. You will miss some days of the plan, maybe even some weeks of it. That doesn't mean you don't do it, you just adjust your targets, maybe do it slower on the day, but try to enjoy it. Keep going with the plan and make a call closer to the time.

    I realised I have been letting myself get oppressed by not hitting the plan targets, thinking about it in a very binary way -- all or nothing. But I still have some good training done. The decision point for me will be if I don't think I can do better than last year! But I think there's still time to get a few good weeks of training done. So we'll see.

    you have absolutely nothing to fear in this regard, look back at your training from Jan this year and compare with last year. No matter what happens on the day you have a far better base which will see you through any tough parts that might (or might not!) happen.

    OH very sensible indeed :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Wise words from an experienced marathoner in another log:
    Look at the training you missed and try put it into context. It will amount to about 5% of your entire marathon plan. When I sit down and do out a training plan I hope that I can cover 90% of it. There will be days that you miss through sickness, work, tiredness, life etc. Just accept these and concentrate on what you have done and what you will do rather than what you haven't done. If you get to the start line healthy, this last week or so won't even register!

    Keep the chin up ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭FBOT01


    annapr wrote: »
    Where does this leave the marathon training?

    I was getting very annoyed about missing yet another midweek session, more enforced rest days, starting to think maybe I should give up on DCM altogether.

    Then my infinitely more rational OH gave me some good advice: first, if you're sick you shouldn't be running, but you need to move on and forget about runs you've missed. You will miss some days of the plan, maybe even some weeks of it. That doesn't mean you don't do it, you just adjust your targets, maybe do it slower on the day, but try to enjoy it. Keep going with the plan and make a call closer to the time.

    I realised I have been letting myself get oppressed by not hitting the plan targets, thinking about it in a very binary way -- all or nothing. But I still have some good training done. The decision point for me will be if I don't think I can do better than last year! But I think there's still time to get a few good weeks of training done. So we'll see.

    Those infinitely more rational OHs are great.....I would have to say I agree with him. Onwards and upwards :pac::pac:

    I hope you are feeling better at this stage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭hillsiderunner


    Firedance wrote: »
    you have absolutely nothing to fear in this regard, look back at your training from Jan this year and compare with last year. No matter what happens on the day you have a far better base which will see you through any tough parts that might (or might not!) happen.

    OH very sensible indeed :)

    +1 ... I think unless the virus lasts for a month you would expect to do better than last year ;)


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