Straight outta Compton

tunguska · 30-08-2015 12:28AM

Saw it tonight and I thought it was OK. I think biopics in general make bad movies, so this would one of the better ones. I can't help but feel though that this would've made an exceptional documentary as opposed to a feature film.
The first 45 minutes was really good, but then it kind of desended into a caper movie that went nowhere really.
Like I said it's an ok movie but a documentary would've done the job a lot better

MarkY91 · 30-08-2015 11:43AM

Great biopic. I was too young to know what and who NWA were at the time. I was born in 1991 but loved their music when I was a teenager so i knew the story before it unfolded etc due to documentaries and the stories in their songs.

Dr.Dre hasn't beaten any women up in the movie..hmm :cool:

Thoroughly enjoyable movie for fans of the group and people who just like a good ole biopic.

I read a kind of sequal is being talk about about Dr. Dre and when snoop dogg rise to fame came..I assume Eminem would feature too. I'd love if this happens.

Muirshin Durkin · 30-08-2015 02:38PM

As a big NWA fan, thought it was dirt, typical hollywood cheese.

Cantona's Collars · 30-08-2015 03:20PM

Muirshin Durkin wrote: »

As a big NWA fan, thought it was dirt, typical hollywood cheese.

As I said in my post,Dre and a couple more who were involved with NWA had a hand in this movie so a lot of stuff was glossed over so as not to portray them in too negative a light.There could/should have been a few scenes of domestic abuse etc. but now that Dre is such a big shot in business he wanted to keep his image clean.

Right Turn Clyde · 30-08-2015 03:21PM

Muirshin Durkin wrote: »

As a big NWA fan, thought it was dirt, typical hollywood cheese.

I'm not a fan, but I quite enjoyed it.

What exactly made it 'dirt'?

Muirshin Durkin · 30-08-2015 03:56PM

Right Turn Clyde wrote: »

I'm not a fan, but I quite enjoyed it.

What exactly made it 'dirt'?

One of the most cheesiest films i've seen. You could tell Dr.Dre had a big influence, seemed to be the Dr.Dre film for the most part, didnt touch on Mc.Ren at all, some of the cast was ridiculous as well.

Doff · 30-08-2015 04:07PM

If you know the story of NWA you could tell Dre had a big influence in making himself look as clean as possible in this film.

Besides that I thought it was decent, even if a bit biased.

poeticmakaveli · 30-08-2015 04:33PM

Watched it on Friday night there and still enjoyed it! A couple things that bothered me but I understand they will stick fictional things into the movie to make it better! I don't think eazy-E and dre ever had that phone call a week before he died,they never got to speak before it and that haunted dre and also they had tupac in 1993 in the death row studio recording when tupac didn't sign for death row until 1995,but I think they just wanted to get tupac into the film!
Off topic here but a couple great books to read if anyone is interested in the death row situation and biggie ,tupac murders is "LAbyrinth" and "murder rap" 2 brilliant books and will open your eyes to the corruption of the LAPD and the cops David mack and Raphael Perez's involvement in biggies murder! Crazy!!

MadDog76 · 30-08-2015 08:03PM

poeticmakaveli wrote: »

Watched it on Friday night there and still enjoyed it! A couple things that bothered me but I understand they will stick fictional things into the movie to make it better! I don't think eazy-E and dre ever had that phone call a week before he died,they never got to speak before it and that haunted dre and also they had tupac in 1993 in the death row studio recording when tupac didn't sign for death row until 1995,but I think they just wanted to get tupac into the film!
Off topic here but a couple great books to read if anyone is interested in the death row situation and biggie ,tupac murders is "LAbyrinth" and "murder rap" 2 brilliant books and will open your eyes to the corruption of the LAPD and the cops David mack and Raphael Perez's involvement in biggies murder! Crazy!!

Did Dr. Dre and Ice Cube really make things right with Eazy-E just before Eazy's death from AIDS?
Yes, and it played out much like it does in the movie. "I was so fortunate to be able to get on the phone with him and talk about maybe putting N.W.A back together," says Dre, "and we chopped it up about old times and what have you and maybe not even two weeks after that, he was in the hospital." Dr. Dre visited him in the hospital, but by that time Eazy was on life support and didn't know Dre was in the room. Dre just leaned over and whispered a few words in his ear. A day or two later, Eazy was gone. -RollingStone.com

http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/straight-outta-compton/

poeticmakaveli · 30-08-2015 08:16PM

Falf wrote:

Let's get this on, can anyone tell me where to get the best bag of chips in Galway, I think, although its a tad bit outside Galway would be nico's in cleargalway after that I would have to say mc donnagh's on quey street, what do ye think???

MadDog76 wrote:

Did Dr. Dre and Ice Cube really make things right with Eazy-E just before Eazy's death from AIDS? Yes, and it played out much like it does in the movie. "I was so fortunate to be able to get on the phone with him and talk about maybe putting N.W.A back together," says Dre, "and we chopped it up about old times and what have you and maybe not even two weeks after that, he was in the hospital." Dr. Dre visited him in the hospital, but by that time Eazy was on life support and didn't know Dre was in the room. Dre just leaned over and whispered a few words in his ear. A day or two later, Eazy was gone. -RollingStone.com

Well this is all said in an interview just before the movie release while promoting it, it is my understanding and I am big into this rap era that they didn't make it up and that was from different sources as well,but again I am not them or don't know the story to it's truest form but this being said is only recent!
But to make a silly mistake having tupac in the death row studio in 1993 makes me think any little thing can be exaggerated just for impact on the movie! I'd like to think that they made it up or spoke soon before he died as that would give him a lot of inner peace but Hollywood movies I would take with a pinch of salt,even true stories!! I remember when the movie came out about the temptations (which I think is still the best biographical movie on a music artist/group) they stretched a lot of facts in that movie about Paul Williams,David ruffin,etc and Otis Williams was the guy involved in making the movie and him an original temptation and still to this day is!
But again I would like to think they made it up! Great movie all the same!

MadDog76 · 30-08-2015 08:25PM

poeticmakaveli wrote: »

Well this is all said in an interview just before the movie release while promoting it, it is my understanding and I am big into this rap era that they didn't make it up and that was from different sources as well,but again I am not them or don't know the story to it's truest form but this being said is only recent!
But to make a silly mistake having tupac in the death row studio in 1993 makes me think any little thing can be exaggerated just for impact on the movie! I'd like to think that they made it up or spoke soon before he died as that would give him a lot of inner peace but Hollywood movies I would take with a pinch of salt,even true stories!! I remember when the movie came out about the temptations (which I think is still the best biographical movie on a music artist/group) they stretched a lot of facts in that movie about Paul Williams,David ruffin,etc and Otis Williams was the guy involved in making the movie and him an original temptation and still to this day is!
But again I would like to think they made it up! Great movie all the same!

Only Dre knows either way ......... what's with the "best chipper in Galway" stuff?

poeticmakaveli · 30-08-2015 08:29PM

MadDog76 wrote:

Only Dre knows either way ......... what's with the "best chipper in Galway" stuff?

Hahahah I don't know! I was in a thread reading it for a second and I must of copied a post by accident but I do not know how I pasted it either so the phone must have a mind of it's own ðŸ˜

NachoBusiness · 30-08-2015 09:44PM

poeticmakaveli wrote: »

Watched it on Friday night there and still enjoyed it! A couple things that bothered me but I understand they will stick fictional things into the movie to make it better! I don't think eazy-E and dre ever had that phone call a week before he died,they never got to speak before it and that haunted dre..

Actually Dre has said that he was shooting a video and someone came up to him with a mobile phone and Eazy was on the other end and they chatted.

.. and also they had tupac in 1993 in the death row studio recording when tupac didn't sign for death row until 1995,but I think they just wanted to get tupac into the film!

That's true. California Love wasn't recorded until after Eazy died. A good six months after.
Tupac's opening line is actually, "Out on bail fresh outta jail.." and he was released in Oct '95.
Easy died in March '95.

thevinylword · 31-08-2015 11:20AM

Looking forward to catching this

Ash.J.Williams · 31-08-2015 11:28AM

Technocentral wrote: »

Better than "Control" about Ian Curtis?

yeah more guns and ****

Oasis1974 · 31-08-2015 05:11PM

Anyone else find Jerry's performance mind boggling awful? O'Shea Jackson Jr. was outstanding playing Ice Cube. Soundtrack was brilliant just felt a narrated documentary may have served the group better from people looking from the outside in. And we got an obligatory car chase

Ash.J.Williams · 31-08-2015 05:19PM

Oasis1974 wrote: »

Anyone else find Jerry's performance mind boggling awful? O'Shea Jackson Jr. was outstanding playing Ice Cube. Soundtrack was brilliant just felt a narrated documentary may have served the group better from people looking from the outside in. And we got an obligatory car chase

you can piece together the entire plotline on youtube through real footage and documentaries if you wish...

Agent Coulson · 31-08-2015 07:09PM

Oasis1974 wrote: »

Anyone else find Jerry's performance mind boggling awful? O'Shea Jackson Jr. was outstanding playing Ice Cube. Soundtrack was brilliant just felt a narrated documentary may have served the group better from people looking from the outside in. And we got an obligatory car chase

I have to agree Ice Cube Jr did a fantastic job playing his father.

DermoMIO · 31-08-2015 10:21PM

NachoBusiness wrote: »

That's true. California Love wasn't recorded until after Eazy died. A good six months after.
Tupac's opening line is actually, "Out on bail fresh outta jail.." and he was released in Oct '95.
Easy died in March '95.

also Dre never played the track for Pac or so the story goes before this movie came out that Suge took the track from Dre's house after being told about it and gave it to Pac, by the time Pac signed for Death Row Dre was working on getting off the label and was planning on using it as his first post Death Row single, finally Hail Mary being from the Makaveli album would of been recorded a good while later as that album was done in something like 8 days before he died but as they say creative license and all that.

As for the movie itself I thought it was very good and no point did I think to myself this is the final third of the movie, I felt it wasn't rushed and flowed from story to story easily, a bit disappointing the fact the MC Ren was basically a mime until after Cube left the group and all of a sudden started getting lines

Also strange that there was no Nate Dogg or Warren G especially with Warren G being Dre's step brother

Finally I felt the Snoop & Dre scene was very cringe of them doing the opening lines of Nuthin' but a G Thing compared to how natural it showed Dre teaching Eazy how to rap to the beat earlier in the movie

NachoBusiness · 01-09-2015 12:37AM

DermoMIO wrote: »

Also strange that there was no Nate Dogg or Warren G especially with Warren G being Dre's step brother

Finally I felt the Snoop & Dre scene was very cringe of them doing the opening lines of Nuthin' but a G Thing compared to how natural it showed Dre teaching Eazy how to rap to the beat earlier in the movie

Yeah, agree on both points. The latter was just lazy and felt shoehorned in. Be interesting to see a director's cut someday though.

Watched the following (hour long) interview with Yella earlier and I had never known that he was the only one of NWA to attended Eazy's funeral. Bizarre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x6cDKtAKVs

PrettyBoy · 01-09-2015 01:52AM

Saw this tonight and, as a big fan of NWA and the Ruthless/Death Row era, I really enjoyed it. It's a great story and I'd recommend it to anyone that has an interest in the topic - even those that don't will probably like it.

Most of the flaws have been mentioned already but to be fair they're minor and they don't take anything away from the story - only those that already have a good knowledge on the story will notice. I was happy to see Tupac making a brief appearance and I'm hoping it will lead to a biopic about his career (as an aside, the resemblance between Tupac and the actor who plays him is just incredible).

poeticmakaveli wrote: »

Well this is all said in an interview just before the movie release while promoting it, it is my understanding and I am big into this rap era that they didn't make it up and that was from different sources as well,but again I am not them or don't know the story to it's truest form but this being said is only recent!

It's not only recent - Dre has always claimed that he and Eazy talked on the phone before he died and that he did visit him while he was in hospital. I'm not sure exactly when this interview with Dre took place but judging by his appearance it seems to be early 2000's, long before any film was in the works: https://youtu.be/lYXOAgO2U_A?t=57m20s

Anyone that has an interest in the film should have a look at this documentary, most of it is covered in the movie but it's worth a watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYXOAgO2U_A

tunguska · 01-09-2015 10:11AM

Oasis1974 wrote: »

Anyone else find Jerry's performance mind boggling awful? O'Shea Jackson Jr. was outstanding playing Ice Cube. Soundtrack was brilliant just felt a narrated documentary may have served the group better from people looking from the outside in. And we got an obligatory car chase

Yeah I was thinking the same thing myself. Paul Giamatti is usually brilliant, but his performance was, I dunno, just a bit off. The scene near the end with Eazy E in his kitchen was horrendous. I'll be honest, I didnt know it was Ice cube's son playing his father until I IMDB'd the **** out of the film after. I was thinking to myself, how the hell did they get someone who looks so much like Cube to play him? O'shea jr is brilliant though.

brianregan09 · 03-09-2015 12:44AM

I loved it anyway , Didn't really get into Rap until dre's 2001 album so it was great to see the story behind nwa even if some of it was wrong , loved it anyway and it would be amazing if they did a follow up about Dre and aftermath and signing Eminem that would be a dream for me as thats when i really got into the whole rap thing

Liam McPoyle · 07-09-2015 07:29PM

Watched it today, very sanitised and portrays Dre et al in a very flattering light.

Looper007 · 08-09-2015 11:55AM

Pretty much agree, it was sanitised a little but when you have two of the main guys from the group producing its not too shocking. But still it was a pretty damn good watch and it goes down as one of the best ever music biopics. I'm not a massive Rap fan, I do love old school rap like NWA (Dre's and Cube's early solo stuff), Public Enemy, De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest and Eric B and Rakim. When it had something and was a art before it turned into just Bitches, bling and money.

Anyway back to the film, I thought Ice Cube's son O'Shea was very good as his dad (it's scary how alike he looked like his dad especially the scenes after Ice Cube left NWA), Corey Hawkins as Dre also did some great work. But the film is stolen by Jason Mitchell as Eazy E, the scene when he

finds out he has HIV, is heartbreaking stuff

and anytime he's on screen he steals the film. Paul Giamati is as usual great. The Music was great (Straight outta Compton is one of the greatest debut albums ever)ad anything from Dre is great and Ice Cube early stuff is as good as anything released.

If they make any more Rap biopics I would love to see one on Public Enemy (still the best Rap act ever) and Tupac (I see this one been more likely, his life was pretty interesting too).

Ash.J.Williams · 08-09-2015 04:59PM

I loved the "movie" but yeah it was obviously sanitized for the big screen. I did think to myself at the end "dre and cube came of this very well" and the the credits rolled "produced by Dr Dre and Ice Cube"

Ash.J.Williams · 08-09-2015 05:01PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldfJ2jf3mKY

I watched this the other night and was GLUED to it til the end...the interviewer is a mad B***rd!

(it's relevant as i it felt like a sequel to Compton)

budgemook · 09-09-2015 01:29PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldfJ2jf3mKY

I watched this the other night and was GLUED to it til the end...the interviewer is a mad B***rd!

(it's relevant as i it felt like a sequel to Compton)

This is on Netflix too. Haven't watched it yet.

My Darling Clementine · 09-09-2015 02:03PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldfJ2jf3mKY

I watched this the other night and was GLUED to it til the end...the interviewer is a mad B***rd!

(it's relevant as i it felt like a sequel to Compton)

Im gonna watch this tonight

D.Q · 09-09-2015 07:51PM

Really thought it was laughably bad.

The scene with dre and snoop dogg writing nothing but a g thang was so cringey. As was the scene with 2pac.

The guy who played dre was absolutely atrocious. Paul Giamatti was terrible too strangely.

Just so cheesy. No depth to any characters. Why were we meant to care about dre's brother? Thought all the characters were really poorly fleshed out. The tension between dre and his ma etc, just didn't seem believable.

Relied far too heavily on party scenes and the soundtrack. Would have much preferred a documentary.

Straight outta Compton

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