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Divinity Original Sin 2 Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/larianstudios/divinity-original-sin-2

The $25 tier with Alpha and Beta access seems rather good for anyone who likes this genre.

d31b0y wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks paying for a game that you aren't going to get until the end of 2016 is bonkers?

I mean, I completely understand if the game is being released by some indie developer with no cash but with the popularity of Divinity Original Sin in 2014, surely they have enough money to fund the project themselves.

I guess if it's a game that you are definitely going to buy no matter what, it's a good opportunity to "pre-order" at probably the best price you will see the game in the first 6 months.

One thing is for sure, they will make a hell of a lot more money than the ~1 million they made on the 2014 kickstarter project.

I actually would think the opposite, I'd never back a tiny indie with no cash in a Kickstarter. That doesn't strike me as a good idea (I may back one if they've a solid beta out somewhere). I've no problem with an established independent studio using Kickstarter as a way to get more money for development (e.g. Tides of Numeria or Pillars of Eternity). Ditto with Early Access, mainly because these people should be able to actually finish the game (usually anyway, Double Fine being a sinner here). I think Larian bringing out Divinity Original Sin and doing it well is a really good reason to give them money this time if you are a big fan of this genre and want to see more games for it.

The crucial thing is though: you are not buying a game you're offering to subsidize development a bit in exchange for the promise of a copy of the game. That's only worth doing if you're a genre fan and you've faith in the developer. I agree though that if all you want to do is buy a game then this is a very bad idea. Essentially I think with niche genres you're more likely to see a suitably niche release if something is crowdfunded rather than funded through traditional channels that will push for a more mainstream title. This is something you should only care about though if you're a big genre fan obviously.

gizmo wrote: »

I posted about this over on the Divinity Kickstarter thread here. Makes for some interesting reading.

nesf nailed it above though. If people want more niche titles that some publishers would baulk at funding due to potentially lower or even riskier returns, then fans need to step in and do something about it, whether that's backing KS campaigns, supporting in Early Access or even just buying it at launch.

I think people forget that "enough cash to make a sequel" is not the same as "enough to make the sequel we want to make." There's diminishing returns on adding more cash to the development pool but with independent developers they're normally starting from such a low point (compared to AAA publishers) that even an extra 500K can substantially expand the game.

Started playing watch dogs last night, story mode seems to be OK, online mode seems to be OK, anybody any thoughts?

I thought the online was pretty novel - fun invading peoples games, and trying to act like the npcs

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Its an extra 2 quid I suppose. Worst comes to it I'll beg Steam to gift it

trust me you won't

Wright wrote: »

Steam has refunds now if you aren't happy with the product actually, forgot that.

Humble Bundle Keys. 85% off if you pick 5 Telltale Games, I wasn't sure of the last two to add if I was going to use the full five.

It's a pick your own bundle thing

The Walking Dead game is far better than the tv series.

In my experience, Origin is streets ahead of Uplay as an interface. So much so that i actually dont mind using Origin anymore.

Uplay is pure dribble

I'm actually sitting here launching Watchdogs and steam and uplay both launch. Then my computer freezes. It's highly annoying.

I'm close to uninstalling uplay and never buying a ubisoft game again to avoid it.

Aaaaaaaaaaagggggfghhhhhhhhh! Another freeze