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US Journalists shot dead live on air [MOD WARNING in opening post]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Seeing tomorrow's front pages on Twitter most are using photos from the videos even the Times. The Sun have outdone themselves again. Horrible.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    Seems he was a Christian. Religion of peace my hole.

    Seems he was a homosexual as well. We haven't heard what football team he supports, or his favourite colour, which is about as relevant as his religious beliefs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Seems he was a homosexual as well. We haven't heard what football team he supports, or his favourite colour, which is about as relevant as his religious beliefs.

    Our religious beliefs help shape and define our morality and our understanding of the social contract. To say someone's favorite color has as much say as religious belief is just, plainly, wrong.


  • Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Seems he was a Christian. Religion of peace my hole.

    Well in fairness his religion seems to have no bearing at all to the reason he did this crime, so ............... what was your point?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 647 ✭✭✭RichardCeann


    Overheal wrote: »
    To say someone's favorite color has as much say as religious belief is just, plainly, wrong.

    Well, some of your coppers have a particular colour that definitely isn't their favourite....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Well, some of your coppers have a particular colour that definitely isn't their favourite....

    Zing. Points. :p but I speak in another context, here.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    Overheal wrote: »
    Our religious beliefs help shape and define our morality and our understanding of the social contract. To say someone's favorite color has as much say as religious belief is just, plainly, wrong.

    I agree, but in the context of this crime his religion is irrelevant. Not sure why someone thought to bring it up, if only to enjoy a bit of church-bashing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,450 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    20Cent wrote: »
    Seeing tomorrow's front pages on Twitter most are using photos from the videos even the Times. The Sun have outdone themselves again. Horrible.

    They have photoshopped it (badly) to make it look like the gun is going off. Jesus Christ.

    About 3rd paper down:

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/08/26/de-thursday-papers-125/#comments


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Birneybau wrote: »
    They have photoshopped it (badly) to make it look like the gun is going off. Jesus Christ.

    About 3rd paper down:

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/08/26/de-thursday-papers-125/#comments

    Thats a neat link


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,311 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Birneybau wrote: »
    They have photoshopped it (badly) to make it look like the gun is going off. Jesus Christ.

    About 3rd paper down:

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/08/26/de-thursday-papers-125/#comments

    Christ, even for the Sun, thats a new low.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,450 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    mzungu wrote: »
    Christ, even for the Sun, thats a new low.

    I'm not being funny but they make it look like the original version of 'Doom'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,450 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Overheal wrote: »
    Thats a neat link

    ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Fcuk sake.

    Do you know what though? I'm not half as disgusted at the knobs at the Sun as I am at the knuckle draggers that read and buy their dirty pice of crap rag.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭NachoBusiness


    Birneybau wrote: »
    ?

    Neat is American for cool/good. Tis a compliment.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,311 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Birneybau wrote: »
    I'm not being funny but they make it look like the original version of 'Doom'

    I thought the exact same when I saw it too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,450 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Neat is American for cool/good. Tis a compliment.

    I get that.


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The Sun has obviously been playing far too much Doom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,565 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    America where stupidity is nurtured . Hope he burns in hell, fat bastard would need cheat code to play Wii Fit. She took his job, he took her life and that of the camera man.
    Everyone who fired his sorry ass was correct in their judgement of him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,956 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    This incident is not gun law case it seems to me to be Labour rights issue. This guy was a frustrated employee, had serious difficulties with colleagues behaviour, no place to turn to make a complaint. He was evidently not been listened to by the Network execs and they allowed his desperation to get out of hand. Large corporations have to be able to look after their people and make sure their contract is kept and work place conditions are satisfying to all.

    This is rubbish.
    People have work issues all over the word, the fact remains that he was able to get a gun that enabled hm to kill people and this would not happen in countries with gun control laws.

    Don't try to blame the employers for those 2 poor people's awful deaths, they didn't pull the trigger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,565 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde




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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32 Dry Rain


    I'm not trying to troll but I watched the cameraman's footage AND the footage recorded by the shooter. What do they both have in common? Both the news camera and the phone camera both lose view of the reporter at the exact same time. You cannot see anyone getting shot. In the gunman's footage you can see the gun being shot but it appears to be shooting blanks. Not to mention the fact that after the video changes back to the female in the newsroom, what she says seems staged and she talked very calmly.

    Is there evidence from a reputable source that this actually happened? I'm just skeptical because in the past a group of people went to court and were fined and sentenced to jail for being involved in faking a live TV shooting that was staged years before the victims were found living in South Africa under different aliases. It was all organised by protesters of the amendment that allows Americans to own weapons.

    I'm scared of getting a warning for this post. I'm not saying the shooting is fake, I'm just saying that it's very strange. It's also sick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    Dry Rain wrote: »
    I'm not trying to troll but I watched the cameraman's footage AND the footage recorded by the shooter. What do they both have in common? Both the news camera and the phone camera both lose view of the reporter at the exact same time. You cannot see anyone getting shot. In the gunman's footage you can see the gun being shot but it appears to be shooting blanks. Not to mention the fact that after the video changes back to the female in the newsroom, what she says seems staged and she talked very calmly.

    Is there evidence from a reputable source that this actually happened? I'm just skeptical because in the past a group of people went to court and were fined and sentenced to jail for being involved in faking a live TV shooting that was staged years before the victims were found living in South Africa under different aliases. It was all organised by protesters of the amendment that allows Americans to own weapons.

    I'm scared of getting a warning for this post. I'm not saying the shooting is fake, I'm just saying that it's very strange. It's also sick.

    I think the local hospital identifying their remains very firmly puts an end to any idea that this was an elaborate hoax.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 768 ✭✭✭SpaceSasqwatch


    Dry Rain wrote: »
    I'm not trying to troll but I watched the cameraman's footage AND the footage recorded by the shooter. What do they both have in common? Both the news camera and the phone camera both lose view of the reporter at the exact same time. You cannot see anyone getting shot. In the gunman's footage you can see the gun being shot but it appears to be shooting blanks. Not to mention the fact that after the video changes back to the female in the newsroom, what she says seems staged and she talked very calmly.

    Is there evidence from a reputable source that this actually happened? I'm just skeptical because in the past a group of people went to court and were fined and sentenced to jail for being involved in faking a live TV shooting that was staged years before the victims were found living in South Africa under different aliases. It was all organised by protesters of the amendment that allows Americans to own weapons.

    I'm scared of getting a warning for this post. I'm not saying the shooting is fake, I'm just saying that it's very strange. It's also sick.

    wha dafuq???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭Diamond Doll


    Conspiracy theories forum is thataway -->


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,521 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Dry Rain wrote: »
    In the gunman's footage you can see the gun being shot but it appears to be shooting blanks.

    How so?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Strider wrote: »
    How so?

    Because you can't see the bullets exiting the muzzle?

    I don't know. How can somebody can be smart enough to open an account, but dumb enough to post that kind of crap...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Birneybau wrote: »
    They have photoshopped it (badly) to make it look like the gun is going off. Jesus Christ.

    About 3rd paper down:

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/08/26/de-thursday-papers-125/#comments

    The Spectator with some really unfortunate timing there, on their cover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Balmed Out wrote: »
    Id presume that being black or gay or whatever and blaming racism, homophobia etc are just his own mental excuses for not being able to handle his own mental imbalances and life failure's.

    What does that even mean?


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Dry Rain wrote: »
    I'm not saying the shooting is fake.
    Thats exactly what you are saying. What, did you want more gore? Not explicit enough? Your cynicism is actually depressing.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32 Dry Rain


    endacl wrote: »
    Because you can't see the bullets exiting the muzzle?

    If you were experienced with weapons then you'd be familiar with the recoil real rounds cause when fired from a handgun similar to the one used by the shooter. You'd probably also be familiar with the kind of recoil blank rounds cause. You'd also notice that the recoil of the weapon in the video is the same as that of what it would be if blank rounds were being shot.

    I can explain in more detail if you wish.


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