Psychics

Canis Lupus · 22-08-2015 09:59AM

Oryx wrote: »

You can choose to believe in it or not, but when money is involved in stuff like this cheats and frauds will always be there, because there is no real burden of proof. Barnum statements and cold or hot reading make it easy to persuade needy people. And the money earned can be substantial.

There are, however, psychic and mediumship organisations who have a code of ethics their members must follow.

And James Randi is mentioned in every single discussion on psychics ever. Im waiting on Penn and Teller. Theyre next.

No need to get snotty about Randi, Penn and Teller just because they tell it like it is. IE it's a load of sh*t and not a single so called psychic has been able to prove it otherwise.

KatW4 · 22-08-2015 10:08AM

I wad brought to one a few months ago and I was very sceptical about it. I went in anyway and he smelled awful but anyway. He starts off by asking was I ever worried about my dad and his health. I said yes. He then said 'well it's in the past, how is he now?' I had to reply with 'Well he died when I was 11....' 'All in the past all in the past' was his response. I didn't take it seriously after that ha!

I also had an ex boyfriend who said he was psychic. I used to laugh at his stupidity. He tried to tell myself and my friends the year we would die. And apparently Leprechauns sit at the bottom of graves to protect them. He wasn't too impressed when I found this hilarious. Needless to say, we didn't last very long.

I just can't take them seriously to be honest. I'd never bother going to see one again.

Oryx · 22-08-2015 10:21AM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

No need to get snotty about Randi, Penn and Teller just because they tell it like it is. IE it's a load of sh*t and not a single so called psychic has been able to prove it otherwise.

Not getting snotty about them. I just get bored of them being hauled out Every. Single. Time. Are there no new debunkers out there?

And if you want a laugh at how badly fraud can go wrong Ill also haul out an old chestnut: Derek Acorah. Now theres a comedian.

22-08-2015 10:22AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think their rules do not allow for self enrichment.

So they do all their stuff for free? Cop-out!!!

Canis Lupus · 22-08-2015 10:31AM

Oryx wrote: »

Not getting snotty about them. I just get bored of them being hauled out Every. Single. Time. Are there no new debunkers out there?

And if you want a laugh at how badly fraud can go wrong Ill also haul out an old chestnut: Derek Acorah. Now theres a comedian.

But that makes no sense? Why do you need a 'new' debunker? Can the psychic community not just sit down with Randi etc and show conclusively they actually have the 'powers' they claim to have? Why is it so difficult for them?

kylith · 22-08-2015 10:36AM

Oryx wrote: »

Not getting snotty about them. I just get bored of them being hauled out Every. Single. Time. Are there no new debunkers out there?

And if you want a laugh at how badly fraud can go wrong Ill also haul out an old chestnut: Derek Acorah. Now theres a comedian.

Why do we need new debunkers if the ones we already have are doing a good job?

fran17 · 22-08-2015 10:36AM

One More Toy wrote: »

How in the hell do people believe in this crap?

Darren Brown did a great job of exposing these cunce

There's even a forum dedicated to this nonsense on this very site

Jesus wept. Jpg

Psychics! Its nothing more than fairground hucksterism.

22-08-2015 10:55AM

Hands up, my posts about some of them being good was as fake as they are.

Duggy747 · 22-08-2015 10:58AM

Oryx wrote: »

Not getting snotty about them. I just get bored of them being hauled out Every. Single. Time. Are there no new debunkers out there?

Why does there have to be new ones when the regular ones have been doing a fine job for decades? They're "hauled out" because they, especially Randi, have had such notable and high-profile successes debunking psychics, faith healers, etc.

Hercule Poirot · 22-08-2015 12:51PM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

No need to get snotty about Randi, Penn and Teller just because they tell it like it is. IE it's a load of sh*t and not a single so called psychic has been able to prove it otherwise.

This x100 - how many times have Uri Geller and others been debunked only to say "I didn't feel the energy" or some other nonsense that day?

Amazing how when Randi gets them to perform under his conditions they "don't feel the energy", but when the psychic has complete control over the conditions the energy flows like a river

Mesrine65 · 22-08-2015 12:55PM

I like to ring the Irish psychic helpline & ask them if they knew I was going to ring

Mesrine65 · 22-08-2015 12:57PM

fran17 wrote: »

hucksterism

Bravo sir, I like this word

Hammer89 · 22-08-2015 01:15PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I got a D in English though

Did you report this mate?

Cienciano · 22-08-2015 01:18PM

"Is there a John in the audience?"
"Have one of your grandparents passed away?"

They got it right! Amazing

NotCominBack · 22-08-2015 01:19PM

Quantum Psychics is where its at these days

DEFTLEFTHAND · 22-08-2015 01:28PM

I remember a group of Boardsies waged war against TV3's late night 'Psychics Live' programme a couple of summers backs (to the extent that the psychics themselves began mentioning boards.ie during broadcasts.) Look up some of the threads in the tv forum, they were good craic.

CliCliW · 22-08-2015 01:34PM

May I ask, it's clear everyone here more or less has a problem with psychics and fortune tellers, but what are your opinions on magicians and the like?

To me they're a stones throw away from each other, but I'd like to hear thoughts. If you're so against psychics then are you against magicians too?

DEFTLEFTHAND · 22-08-2015 01:42PM

CliCliW wrote: »

May I ask, it's clear everyone here more or less has a problem with psychics and fortune tellers, but what are your opinions on magicians and the like?

To me they're a stones throw away from each other, but I'd like to hear thoughts. If you're so against psychics then are you against magicians too?

Do Magicians for the most part not acknowledge that their act is an illusion, it's purpose is to entertain. Psychics deceive their 'marks' and exploit their emotional state for profit.

Huntergonzo · 22-08-2015 01:42PM

Should psychics not be made to either prove their 'ability' or if they can't then advertise that what they're doing is all just a bit of fun, otherwise they're deliberately misleading people aren't they and as such should be prosecuted.

Ps, yes all supernatural claims are absolute pants and quite honestly aren't even interesting. It's sad to see people fall for such blatant nonsense when the universe we live in so genuinely mysterious and intriguing.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 22-08-2015 01:48PM

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

All that yet you can't tell the difference between physics and psychics

And you have no sense of humour.

Quazzie wrote: »

I predict a hard life ahead with you misreading many basic words.

And you slightly less.

Cienciano · 22-08-2015 01:48PM

CliCliW wrote: »

May I ask, it's clear everyone here more or less has a problem with psychics and fortune tellers, but what are your opinions on magicians and the like?

To me they're a stones throw away from each other, but I'd like to hear thoughts. If you're so against psychics then are you against magicians too?

Magicians don't make money by pretending to talk to dead relatives.

Samaris · 22-08-2015 02:26PM

Cold reading is a remarkable trick on its own, and I could well see it being subtle enough to even fool the 'psychic' in question. I have no time for tarot or crystals or the like, and little enough time for psychics - certainly not Madam Whatever and her phone hotline. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them honestly do believe they can talk to the dead and pass on messages, and a poster up above said that it was something they needed at the time.

That aside though, I agree it's a load of donkey bollocks and a nasty trick to play on grieving families. Magicians are different, they may not tell you how they did their tricks, but it's accepted that their skill is in setting up the trick, not using some sort of supernatural power.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 22-08-2015 02:30PM

Keith Barry is very vocal on this issue, he's studied the likes of cold reading and Tarot card reading himself and can demonstrate the process while explaining the technique.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l89M2swlch4

Mal-Adjusted · 22-08-2015 02:36PM

Is it not a skill based on pulling information from seemingly normal conversation/looking at reactions? It'd be impressive if they didn't try to dress it up in bull$hit

justchecked · 22-08-2015 02:52PM

If you want to have simple little things in this country such as a 50cc moped or a .ie website you have to register with the government.

I think it should be the same for anyone claiming to have psychic gifts / charging for psychic services.

Tax, regulate, license and randomly inspect them.

also if I was some kind of psychic I'd be thoroughly ashamed that I didn't go to every test and every skeptic available to prove this groundbreaking reality to mankind, but rather spent this gift on making a few quid.

jonnny68 · 22-08-2015 02:57PM

i was a non believer until last year, my missus went to one and they told her about a job i was going to get before i had even applied for it , months in fact before the job was even advertised, the medium would not have even known my missus had a boyfriend never mind know what type of job i was going to get and where i was from, the job in question actually came up,i applied and got it.

There can be absolutely no doubts some of them are genuine, no doubts at all, the medium told my missus a few other things in which she could not possibly have known.

Quazzie · 22-08-2015 02:59PM

jonnny68 wrote: »

i was a non believer until last year, my missus went to one and they told her about a job i was going to get before i had even applied for it , months in fact before the job was even advertised, the medium would not have even known my missus had a boyfriend never mind know what type of job i was going to get and where i was from, the job in question actually came up,i applied and got it.

There can be absolutely no doubts some of them are genuine, no doubts at all, the medium told my missus a few other things in which she could not possibly have known.

Would you have applied for the job if the medium didn't say that?

I'm also very skeptical about how much detail of the job she actually gave. If she said that your boyfriend is going to start a new job next year, then that vague statement would apply to most women.

Huntergonzo · 22-08-2015 03:12PM

jonnny68 wrote: »

i was a non believer until last year, my missus went to one and they told her about a job i was going to get before i had even applied for it , months in fact before the job was even advertised, the medium would not have even known my missus had a boyfriend never mind know what type of job i was going to get and where i was from, the job in question actually came up,i applied and got it.

There can be absolutely no doubts some of them are genuine, no doubts at all, the medium told my missus a few other things in which she could not possibly have known.

In fairness there is absolutely no doubt that all of them are complete charlatans who deserve nothing but ridicule.

Sadly though there is and likely will always be a market for psychics, what's the famous old quote = "there's a sucker born every minute", Ps, I don't mean that about you personally, I don't know you.

suicide_circus · 22-08-2015 03:20PM

Fraudsters and scam artist preying on the vulnerable and weak minded.

jonnny68 · 22-08-2015 03:41PM

Quazzie wrote: »

Would you have applied for the job if the medium didn't say that?

I'm also very skeptical about how much detail of the job she actually gave. If she said that your boyfriend is going to start a new job next year, then that vague statement would apply to most women.

yes because she described what type of job it was and it's a job that i wanted but always assumed it was very difficult to get, well it is actually but when it came up i was amazed, how did she know where i was from, how did she know i have a son, you don't just guess these things and hope for the best, therefore there is absolutely no doubts she is genuine.

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