General FPL Chat 2015/16

ScummyMan wrote: »

I wonder what price Pedro will come in at..

9m maybe. I'm not sure he has the discipline to be a mourinho player. I'll be waiting to see how he gets on before bringing him in.

FHFC wrote: »

United coverage in defence and attack.....how important is it? I keep ending up with no attacker on my wc team, despite the attraction of Depay. I still have Shaw but looking at their fixtures after Newcastle it's swa, LIV, sot. A few goals and a cs is likely this week but after that there are form players with better fixtures.

Tempted to go Kolarov and 4 rotating defs and no Depay. Risky ir sensible?

Defence yes attack I wouldn't be rushing into it just yet. For now I would rather double up on Yaya & Silva and then by the time their run of great fixtures has finished see if one of the United mids has stood out. Depay has shown he has the potential to do some damage but for now I would want to see him do it against a decent PL defence before I get too excited.

Dearg81 wrote: »

I think Gomis has looked really good since taking Bony's place, I think he has something like 8 goals in last 9 games. Was he always that good or has he improved since breaking into the team?

I have Ayew and Gomis in my wild card team at the moment, I dont agree with the overkill idea. If you think both are good options individually then I dont see the logic in saying having both is overkill.

Re Gomis. As I said last year, Gomis scored 10+ goals in his last 8 consecutive seasons in Ligue 1. I admit that Ligue 1 is far from the PL standard but it doesn't mean it is easy to score plenty of goals in it. Although it is changing a bit with new young managers (e.g. Lyon's Fournier, Guingamp's Gourvennec), it is (unfortuinately) a defense-oriented league so you don't/can't go on 8 consecutive 10+ goals season without having something special.
Last year Gomis was not playing while Bony was there. It took him time when the Ivorian left to adjust to the team and maybe to get back to full fitness but as people said he finished the season well. Now that he's their number one forward I don't see why he could not reproduce what he was doing in Saint-Etienne and Lyon. He has a quality midfield behind him. He's not top class but if he stays fit he has the potential for a 12-15 goals season which is good for his price.

About Swansea overkill, it's also that Ayew faces quite some large competition in his price range and I'd not like to put all my eggs in the same basket.

jpboard1 wrote: »

Any views on this WC team would be appreciated:

Myhill McCarthy
Richards Williams Gomez Darmian Kompany
Mahrez Barkley Yaya Payet Sanchez
Aguero Diouf Gomis

Looks good. But almost too good. I mean who are you gonna bench from you strikeforce every week? If I were you I'd downgrade Barkley to a £4.5m playing bench fodder (e.g. Wanyama, Westwood, D. Fletcher) and upgrade Yaya to Silva or keep a bit in the bank for thhe keepers. Both should go back to the bench when their respective number 1 will be back...

FHFC wrote: »

United coverage in defence and attack.....how important is it? I keep ending up with no attacker on my wc team, despite the attraction of Depay. I still have Shaw but looking at their fixtures after Newcastle it's swa, LIV, sot. A few goals and a cs is likely this week but after that there are form players with better fixtures.

Tempted to go Kolarov and 4 rotating defs and no Depay. Risky ir sensible?

Can't you have Kolarov & Shaw and a 3-way rotation? I didn't go for a United def for -8 this week considering their upcoming run of fixtures after Newcastle but the Schneiderlin factor has almost me regretting it.

About Depay, it also depends who would make way for him?

FHFC wrote: »

I can but costing 1m more! Would 2 decent rotation pairs with better fixtures come close to the same return with 1m to spend elsewhere.

My genetic make up us cheap at the back and Courtois, Shaw and Kolarov are a bit rich for my blood!!

Ah right you spent the second premium spot on Courtois.

As a matter of interest have you found a satisfactory 4-way £4.5m rotation at the back? I'd assumed you went for a Swansea and/or West Brom def alongside Kolarov.

CSF wrote: »

Pedro a midfielder at 9.5

Recent track record of Chelsea's next big thing ain't great.... Cuadrado, Schurrle, Salah etc.

I'll be staying away until he proves himself.

MarkSRFC21 wrote: »

New FPL additions - Pedro (CHE) MID 9.5, Otamendi (MCI) DEF 6.5, Thauvin (NEW) MID 6.5, Diamanti (WAT) MID 5.5, Inler (LEI) MID 5.0

None of them are too appealing atm

Very surprised when I saw they came in at 9.5 and 6.5 wasn't expecting them to be that high. At least Pedro came in as a midfielder so he might be of some value to us at some point if he was listed as a forward then he would purely be a casuals trap!

If Pedro plays every week, he's a bargain at that price. Very much wait and see for now however.

Mane starts tonight

I don't think there's any good argument to really be made for putting Pedro straight into an FPL squad when his manager is Mourinho. You'd hope he'd be better equipped to do things compared to some of the other umpteen players that have been filling that spot in the team for the last while but we just have to wait and see.

Where does he even fit in? Does he affect Hazard's position on the left? That's probably the biggest question over the next few weeks rather than anything else

He could be gold and 9.5 is more than fair as a price I reckon but he's probably not guaranteed to start every game and that's a major problem

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I think pedro should definetly be considered at his 9.5 price. Ive looked at his career stats and have come up with the following.
Since 2009-2015 with barcelona he has made 196 league appearances 132 starts 64 off the bench. He has 58 goals and 35 assists. Goals for midfielders are key in FF its why I argued last year that ADM was not worth 9.5 as he doesnt score enough goals.
Anyway here are my thoughts I think Pedro is quite easily a 5 PPG player.
At Barca he scored every 0.29 games x 5 what a goal is worth = 1.45
At Barca he assists every 0.17 games x 3 what an assist is worth =.51
Chelsea under mourinho get close to a c.s every second game =.5
I think its feasible he gets 20 b.ps = .5
appearance = 2
All thats almost 5 p.p.g
I expect him to start more regularly at chelsea than he did at barca which should offset the fact that barca score more goals than chelsea.

Last season pedro had a goal or an assist every 127 mins, oscar 145 mins, hazard 146 mins, willian 483 mins. Hazard got 42 B.Ps last year.

I think pedro's signing is a very interesting one for the dynamic of chelsea. Up till now hazard has been given a lot of freedom with their best defender azpil placed behind him. With chelsea signing a new l.b it wouldnt surprise me if he now starts and azpil moves R.B with pedro in front of him given a lot more freedom to attack.
Personally I feel if pedro starts regularly he is the best way into the chelsea attack and will get very close to hazards points haul. Pedro IMO could get close to 200 pts.
Obviously he mightnt settle or mourinho could put the shackles on him but I think its starting to become a case of stop hazard you will stop chelsea.

Hi again,

Apples and Oranges.

Barcalona score the same (or more) amount of goals in 2 seasons than Chelsea do in 3.

Barca had 110 goals in La Liga last year, Chelsea 73 iirc.

VOTE HAZARD

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Obviously he mightnt settle or mourinho could put the shackles on him but I think its starting to become a case of stop hazard you will stop chelsea.

Pedro as a £9.5m midfielder is a great news. Because basically he's a forward. In Barça iconic 4-3-3 he always played in the 3 upfront, alongside Messi & Henri/Eto'O/Villa/Zlatan/Sanchez/Neymar/Suarez/etc...

Now what worries me is

1. he's never been given a central starting role with high expectations (although it's tough enough to find your place at Barça even if you're "only" the Ole Gunnar Solskjaer of it ). How will he handle it? We don't know.
   
   
2. he's used to Cruyff-inherited Barça style, pretty much the exact opposite of Mourinho.
   
   
3. the bold part (Mourinho "destroyed" Mata for example though the big difference is he didn't transfer him in).