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springer spaniel

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Yep. Tegan was a dream for the first two weeks or so. Then she opened up and the extent of her fear aggression toward other dogs became apparent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,138 ✭✭✭✭cena


    17113772956_fd439ee871_s.jpg20150413_203451 by keggs 85, on Flickr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭sillysmiles


    Very sad eyes poor pet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 623 ✭✭✭smeal


    We had a springer spaniel for 13 years until last month when she passed away. She was the apple of my dad's eye! Extremely loyal dog (once my Grandad took a fall on an isolated country lane while she was with him and she lay on top of him for about 3 hours until a car came along!).

    I would really say it depends on where she lives. A Springer Spaniel is definitely a country dog- they're not happy unless they're running outside through hedges and muck and that's naturally because they're a hunting dog. As many people have already said, they are extremely energetic and you'll definitely see this when your springer is out in the open! Not really a lead dog? Lucy never took to a lead anyways, not that we ever needed one with her though because we live on a farm, she walked herself and she had severe travel sickness so we could never take her anywhere even if we wanted a change of scenery!

    Great doggy though-your mum will never be bored! Unbelievable guard dog too and this is definitely down to their loyalty! Wish I could upload a pic of Lucy but not on my phone!:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭Vancity


    Aww, lovely face :)
    Best of luck with the new addition - you'll be best friends in no time!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,138 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Vancity wrote: »
    Aww, lovely face :)
    Best of luck with the new addition - you'll be best friends in no time!

    He is mad to play ball already


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    cena wrote: »
    He is mad to play ball already

    :D:D:D:D:D he wont be quiet for long!!

    Enjoy he looks like a lovely dog and well done to your mum for rescuing him!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,138 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Hi people. we maybe giving up the spaniel. Mother is not taking to it at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    cena wrote: »
    Hi people. we maybe giving up the spaniel. Mother is not taking to it at all.

    More information, like what are the issues your mum is having?

    Also please don't refer to the dog as an it.. It's a he 😓


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,138 ✭✭✭✭cena


    cocker5 wrote: »
    More information, like what are the issues your mum is having?

    Also please don't refer to the dog as an it.. It's a he 😓

    he has too much energy for her liking. stands in his own poo. RUINING the garden when it is wet by the way he runs ans skids.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,983 ✭✭✭Raminahobbin


    cena wrote: »
    he has too much energy for her liking. stands in his own poo. RUINING the garden when it is wet by the way he runs ans skids.

    Really?? REALLY??

    Sigh.

    If she got the dog from a rescue, she will probably need to return the dog to the rescue, usually they specify this in the rehoming contract.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    cena wrote: »
    he has too much energy for her liking. stands in his own poo. RUINING the garden when it is wet by the way he runs ans skids.

    Please tell me you are taking the p*ss??

    Every poster advised you they are extremely high energy when you originally posted and probably not advisable for an older person who isn't very active.. Advice was ignored and this is now the outcome??

    Sounds like he is not being exercised enough outside the back garden..,

    Eh take up his poo when he goes?

    I take my guy stuff up every day

    Both are simple answers to a simple problem..,

    Sigh :(

    easy come easy go


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,500 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    cena wrote: »
    Anyone have one of these. My mother is looking at getting one for a pet. Are they a good breed?
    kylith wrote: »
    IME they're a lovely friendly dog, daft as brooms. The only thing, and obviously I don't know how old your mother is or what her health is like or anything, but they have MASSES of energy, seriously; bags and bags of it. They'll go all day. My brother had a couple and they seem impossible to tire out. If your mum wants a chilled out companion a springer is not it (nor is any spaniel, really). If she wants a companion to run or to do serious walking with then they're great.
    VonVix wrote: »
    One of the most hyperactive dog breeds I have ever met to be honest, they basically seem not built to be on a leash (just my experiences with many of them) they are FAST dogs who are go-go-go. The "Springer" part of their name suits them well!

    Personality wise they tend to be very sweet, goofy natured dogs. But like I said, they are VERY busy!
    SingItOut wrote: »
    My dog is half springer, Crazy crazy energy! Not the brightest dog at times but very loving,sweet and definitely the most loyal dog I've ever had. She is extremely vocal although that may be her Collie side coming out. If your mum is very old I wouldn't recommend a springer, they need daily long runs off the lead to burn off that crazy unending energy.
    Vancity wrote: »
    I thought all dogs were like that until I got my mini schnauzer and I couldn't believe that at 5 months old she walks happily alongside me on a lead! I thought that was just a myth! Based on the 2 springers we had I don't think they would be a suitable breed for an older lady unless she's extremely active or it's an unusually calm springer!
    cena wrote: »
    he has too much energy for her liking. stands in his own poo. RUINING the garden when it is wet by the way he runs ans skids.
    Nope, could not see that one coming at all...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    As soon as I saw this thread was back I had a feeling 'too energetic' was going to be the problem. Like everyone said it would be.

    That poor, poor dog.

    As Raminahobbin says rescues generally stipulate that the dog has to be returned to them if it doesn't work out. However since I'm not convinced that a reputable rescue would give a springer to a person who wouldn't be able to handle the energy levels I don't hold out much hope for it being a reputable rescue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    kylith wrote: »
    As soon as I saw this thread was back I had a feeling 'too energetic' was going to be the problem. Like everyone said it would be.

    That poor, poor dog.

    Agree 100%

    Its easily fixed with proper stimulation and exercise but doesn't sound like this is likely...

    poor dog is right, will be dumped back in the rescue now EVEN though the OP was well aware of its exercise needs .... I just wish people would
    1. Listen to other peoples advise
    2. think long and hard before getting a dog....

    A dog is for life... regardless of skidding :D, digging etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,983 ✭✭✭Raminahobbin


    Cena, can I just ask- did you not believe the people here? Or was it just that your mother wasn't listening? Did you actually tell her what you'd learned about springers from talking to people who have them or know them?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,500 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Well to be tad more constructive I'd say what your mother needs is either a pair of cats (go for adult to avoid the whole insane furball of claws stage and you can get confirmed social lovers who wants pettings etc.) or something like an adult greyhound or similar which require minimal exercising and walks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,138 ✭✭✭✭cena


    He has fallen in love with me. He goes mad when he see me coming.

    I told her what was said here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,548 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    My sister has a 12 year old springer. She's mildly arthritic and has been diabetic and getting twice daily insulin jabs for the last 6 years, but whenever I visit and take her for a walk, I almost dislocate my shoulder from the pull on the lead before we get to an area where she can be let loose. I guess what I'm saying is that you can't just put down his exuberance to youth and hope he'll calm down when he gets older, they're just extremely energetic dogs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    cena wrote: »
    He has fallen in love with me. He goes mad when he see me coming.

    I told her what was said here

    Maybe your the only one who gives him the attention he needs and deserves.

    Well if you told her everything written on here and she still proceeded with the adoption then its her own fault and you know what... the only one who will suffer here is the poor dog... being dropped from pillar to post through NO fault of his own.

    I am guessing the dog is not exercised?

    A springer needs AT LEAST one hours walks outside the garden each day... at least with no exceptions....

    poor dog being returned because as per usual people jump feet first in without looking at the situation properly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    Alun wrote: »
    My sister has a 12 year old springer. She's mildly arthritic and has been diabetic and getting twice daily insulin jabs for the last 6 years, but whenever I visit and take her for a walk, I almost dislocate my shoulder from the pull on the lead before we get to an area where she can be let loose. I guess what I'm saying is that you can't just put down his exuberance to youth and hope he'll calm down when he gets older, they're just extremely energetic dogs.

    With daily exercise Min one hour per day outside of the garden etc and stimulation 99% of dogs relax as the years go by.

    I have a cocker who was MENTAL until 3... then he chillaxed hugely, but he is VERY well exercised etc.

    exercise is the key


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,548 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    cocker5 wrote: »
    With daily exercise Min one hour per day outside of the garden etc and stimulation 99% of dogs relax as the years go by.

    I have a cocker who was MENTAL until 3... then he chillaxed hugely, but he is VERY well exercised etc.

    exercise is the key
    Believe me, she gets walked for at least that if not more every day. My sister lives in rural Norfolk, and there's a large area of woodland with a huge network of tracks only 2-3 minutes walk from the house, so she gets let off the lead as soon as we reach that, and bounds around in the undergrowth as is her wont. It's only on the 2 minute walk along the road to get there that she really pulls, on the way back after her walk she's fine on the lead, and generally speaking she's very chilled at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭jayobray


    This is really sad. I'm not sure we even realized how much work our boy would be when we got him as a rescue a few years ago. He's hyper and goofy and fun but with loads of energy. He's calmed a little now that he's three, but we would never have given him back as we made the choice and live with it, and he repays us many times over with his boundless affection. He gets walked twice a day, and in the fields our other girl, a Samoyed, would sometimes just sit down and watch him bouncing around.

    People need to think hard before getting a dog like a springer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    One thing that might help a little is that springers are actually highly, highly intelligent dogs. It's funny that so many people here have said they are daft dogs, they aren't, they are just so energetic and excitable that maybe that obscures their intelligence but they need mental stimulation every bit as much as physical. I have two nine year old springers and they need intense physical and mental stimulation. A favourite game to play with them is to put a couple of dog treats in a box, show it to them, leave the dogs in the kitchen and then hide the box in the garden. Once it's hidden, send them off to find it. It's great fun and provides both mental and physical stimulation. When looked after right they are lovely dogs. Super affectionate, as playful as a puppy right through their lives, very low aggression rates. Super adaptable and take so well to children. When I got my two I thought we'd have children within 2-3 years of getting them. As it happens they were 7 when my son was born but despite that being an enormous seismic shock at that age, they just adapted to his presence so fast and if he annoys them, they have never so much as given a warning growl, they just look at me in askance and wait for my intervention.

    But they are a lot of work. They need intense stimulation, they love dirt and they shed like crazy, they are also very energetic about the house and spread their hairs and dirt all over. The worst aspect for me atm is that we moved house last year and my nextdoor neighbour has chickens, which is a nightmare with a dog which can easily scale a 2m fence and is bred to hunt fowl. We have a huge back garden and I have to confine them to a small part of it. (They still have loads of space but it's a shame they can't take advantage of the majority of the garden that was in large part bought for their benefit.) I don't like to think about the future without them in it but when I do, I have to admit I plan on getting a smaller, slightly less energetic dog next. I love them but on bad days, the amount of work they need gets me down.

    Your mother needs to decide what she wants to do fast. Don't let the poor dog get more attached while she dithers only to eventually rehome him when it's an even harder wrench for him. However she did make a commitment to the poor guy and should at least work to find a genuinely suitable home for him, so that he never has to go through this again. It's pretty heartbreaking, tbh, and she does owe him her best now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭SingItOut


    Laziness on the humans part seems to be the only problem here. He is clearly not getting enough attention and stimulation. Hes a dog, he has no concept that standing in his own poo is bad I mean seriously? Clean it up then that won't be an issue. If he's wet then put him in when it's raining you know it's not rocket science. You're not going to have a nice garden where there's a dog.

    As much energy as they have they are 100% "people" dogs, I can't move and my springer crossbreed is glued to my hip! I wouldn't have it any other way. The only one I feel sorry for is the poor springer, there was 3 pages of advice telling you that breed was not good a good choice for your mum and you still went and got the dog. Putting him back in kennels will traumatise him but I can only hope with his handsome good looks that a more deserving family will take him on for life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Ashbx


    This thread has really annoyed me!!! Why do people come here and ask questions and don't listen to the advice they are given?

    My collie was put through 4 different homes before finally coming to me. It really pisses me off that people saw this "cute dog" and didn't even consider what this dog really needs from their owner and not even do the slightest bit of research into the breed etc. The only one who loses out in this situation is the dog. I really wish humans wouldn't be so selfish sometimes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    Ashbx wrote: »
    This thread has really annoyed me!!! Why do people come here and ask questions and don't listen to the advice they are given?

    My collie was put through 4 different homes before finally coming to me. It really pisses me off that people saw this "cute dog" and didn't even consider what this dog really needs from their owner and not even do the slightest bit of research into the breed etc. The only one who loses out in this situation is the dog. I really wish humans wouldn't be so selfish sometimes!

    Exactly!
    We are on our second collie, which was my very last choice as a breed/crossbreed for our next rescue. Even though I have 11 years experience with a collie with the worst behavioral problems, he is still a MASSIVE handful. When I hear of anyone in my family looking to get a collie pup, I immediately invite them to spend 10 minutes with Opie. Despite my vigorous training efforts, he is still more than the average person can manage at 1 year old and it puts them right off.

    When people tell you a dog breed is not suitable, you bloody well listen.
    Then again, a dog running and skidding in a wet garden is probably one of the top useless excuses to get rid of a dog I have seen to date.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭FrostyJack


    My spaniel cross was rehomed twice before I got her, not counting her original home. Similar excuses as above. All could have been fixed easily, like crating at night and getting lots of exercise. Who gets a dog and leaves it in garden thinking the garden will be safe. I have seen even Yorkshire terriers make bits of gardens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    I can't believe I didn't mention this in my original post but one of my dogs had to have one of his front legs amputated 5 years ago because it never got to develop properly when he was a pup. The family that bought him originally never walked him and when we got him at 7 months he was several kgs heavier than his eventual adult weight and his paw pads were still as soft and pink as a newborn pup's from lack of walking. He used to fall over when he tried to run and once he learned how, he used to come home from walks and lie down licking his paws and whimpering as they were in pain from carrying his weight on such soft paws. Once his paws hardened and his weight changed from fat to healthy muscle mass we thought his physical troubles were over but aged 3 he broke his 'elbow' joint and we had it screwed and pinned back together but 6 months later it broke again, completely shattering the joint. He's a happy tripawd now and has been one for longer than he hasn't but if the people who originally bought him had done proper research and gotten the King Charles spaniel they replaced him with in the first place and left Toby to be homed by people who wanted and could cope with an active dog, he would probably still have all his limbs now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭Hunchback


    Hopefully this thread was an elaborate awareness raising ruse! (If only).

    I wonder what became of the dog. I don't expect the OP would return to update?


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