Summer 2015 Transfer Window General Discussion

CSF wrote: »

Stones is not a better CB than Luiz at the moment. Ridiculous notion.

I'm a better centre half that luiz. A clown of a defender.

eh i dunno wrote: »

I'm a better centre half that luiz. A clown of a defender.

The English medias influence has never been more clear.

Ah yeah. David Luiz, a man who helped anchor a Champions League winning back four is worse than Stones. Good craic.

eh i dunno wrote: »

I'm a better centre half that luiz. A clown of a defender.

Oh dear

I'm pretty sure Luis would break nearly every poster in here in half in a challenge

Harry Palmr wrote: »

26m for Stones is mental. Its also a kind of insult to Everton, sort of smacks of waving a wad of cash in the face of the poor a la Harry Enfield

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Ah yeah. David Luiz, a man who helped anchor a Champions League winning back four is worse than Stones. Good craic.

The same one that spent the last world cup chasing shadows. Mourinho knows his stuff. Why do you think he was so keen to offload luiz.

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

As far as I can remember he was cup tied for the 2012 champions league and didn't play in it for Chelsea.

Incorrect. He wasn't cup tied, played in the final and scored in the shoot out.

eh i dunno wrote: »

The same one that spent the last world cup chasing shadows. Mourinho knows his stuff. Why do you think he was so keen to offload luiz.

How did you do at the last world cup ?

yabadabado wrote: »

How did you do at the last world cup ?

Well........ wouldnt put it past "Eh i dunno" having done better than Luiz at that WC.

Moneymaker wrote: »

Newcastle sign Mitrovic for a fee of 13m.



Only Harry Kane scored more goals for players U21 in all of Europe last year.

Mike Ashley doesn't spend any money though! :eek:

In fairness to Luiz, once the Sports Bible and Paddy Power start having a go at you, you're finished with some people. If you are blind to Luiz's qualities, there is something wrong with you. He is prone to some howlers and therefore does not belong in the elite by any means but comfortably better than someone like Stones who remains all potential for now.

Corholio wrote: »

He's a talented footballer, but he doesn't cut it as a very good centre back or a centre midfielder. It's not just howlers though, he has an unreal ability to just switch off when marking, it's not as blatant as a miskick or an own goal but almost equally as bad. Stones is a bit more than potential though, he's been a very good performer for an entire season. I'd be more confident with Stones starting on a regular basis over the course of a season. Saying all that though, going to Chelsea would be a mistake. Just playing football regularly will make him better and better.

His flaws have been massively overstated at this stage. Don't take this as me denying they exist because they do, but they are massively overstated. Stones is a safer bet but for an elite level, Luiz is far superior at most things. His concentration level does let him down sometimes, which is why the really good centre backs are all better than him, but Stones is not that. He is a player with potential who wouldn't currently be able to go to Chelsea, United, City or Arsenal and be the guy. He should stay at Everton and attempt to be the guy (it isn't that easy) and if he becomes that he'll probably be better than Luiz, but there is no guarantee that Stones is going to go that way. Potential goes frequently unfulfilled.

Alfred Borden wrote: »

Looks like Szczesny could be off on loan to Roma for the year. Really good move for him.

How? De Sanctis is a better keeper so he'll likely be on the bench there too.