Cork GAA Discussion Thread

Conditions were appalling but they were for both teams. Kerry still tacked on points. It was never going to high scoring. Just needed to keep the scoreboard ticking over. Our decision making was shocking. Tactically destroyed. I'm beyond dejected after watching that. It's disappointing, so disappointing yet again. I dunno.

Be ware false dawns

I pleaded for cautious views after ist day
Course the fickle naive fans you know them mile off fast to critse cuthbhertt loss then change ist sign say he turned corner
No he did not
Gary Neville said I was being too negative and delusion with Cork, some accused me negative after game


The way they talked it was like Cork were all ireland contenders
Swallowed an anchor again with false dawns
When are people going to realise kerry you only get one chance to put them away




No i wasn't I was being realistic
Christ I get no joy in saying Cork are awful but Cork football doesn't need false dawns it needed realism


I said huge weakness ist day, defence awful yet wet day conceded thirteen points, attack doesn't score enough midfield absoultey cleaned cleaned cleaned i mean cleaned out

Management made awful subs too late dorman on when deane was man
No lack pace as weather negated it
Alan o Connor lucky not be sent off dominated him dominated him no support and he's poor game
Gould was awful as sub and on for donnacha
Donnacha face going off said it all


Now let's be crystal clear kerry tired team there for taking but Cork couldn't beat them ist second day
Ist day will buy cuthbhertt another term and it's disgraceful as this management like I said from day one out of he's depth
He can't read a game make correct changed

I said before game kelly was good but midfield was key and the cork needed a plan
We were lateral and predicable and lucky it pissed rain
Kerry would destroyed us dry day
Six points from play aside goal truly truly awful for senior team


I said the drawn game kerry hunger and fitness was off and picked weaker team
So forget about draw
Murphy maher geaney mahony all improvement kerry so kerry much better had game won with fifteen to go

What next a root and branch review
Seriously every fear id cork all year again evident
O Connor outstanding warrior but once he's targeted cork have nothing at midfield and he needs help
Dublin fast day Croker will destroy him and it's bad to see

Well beat Kildare who are awful the usual suspects will try and convince us we have hope v Dublin and we have this and that blah blah blah
We will get destroyed by Dublin absoultey destroyed as there younger faster than kerry
Goal masked lot problem cork had in brilliant goal but Cork had huge problem up to then


Barry driscoll is not half back tried hard not defender and blame management
One good game Cork thought cuthbhertt was master mind management
No he wasn't
Kerry exposed him and loughrey again today
Kevin o Driscoll tried hard great battling display and I wouldn't taken him off but no way should be asked shoot as I said before not create player
Should be defending role soley


Kerrigan fine goal but overall running in to traffic wet night suited kerry


People will say cork robbed ist day yes it was penalty but as I said then kerry had outplayed cork key areas game
If kerry lost in truth would been false dawns as kerry much improved than the ist game but still there to be beaten by Dublin as huge problem defences wise
Cork have no idea how to get hurley and colm in the game

Everything o se first day regards cork being rudder less he's right there's rudder less under this management as management learn nothing from any game
Management have to have to be let go after this year as bar getting kerry in one off game like Cork hurlers got Walsh five years ago v tipp cork have been awful again
This management are clearly clearly not up to it
Be interesting to see brolly and some here said cuthbhertt was turning a corner
Everything Eammon Sweeney said two week ago he was right this management talk the talk but that's all it is bluff and spoof in management
Kerry were there for the taking
Congratulations to them and they have an outstanding management team who get everything out of a limited panel


Same old stuff though some questions cork leaders players being headless etc and bravery

With respect people in all fairness need to see this management are passionate committed but out of their depth tactically
Kerry improved ist day cork didn't improve at all
This management are destroying this team talents playing lads out position absoultey porous blanket defence which greatest fraud going saying Cork have blanket defence
We don't we never had we defend in numbers that's all


We were never in control of the game
We offer nothing in attack in creating wise
Problem is management
None this set up are proven management

Same old Cork. Lacked leaders today. Can't put the ball over the bar when marked tight. Gifted a goal to Kerry once again.

To sum it up shot themselves in the foot.

keano25 wrote: »

Same old Cork. Lacked leaders today. Can't put the ball over the bar when marked tight. Gifted a goal to Kerry once again.

To sum it up shot themselves in the foot.

Nothing got to do with leadership
It comes from inept management getting there match up wrong awful subs and key is kerry up three points made ist sub


Cork in dire trouble before the goal and management twiddling their thumbs no change
That one scenario tell the real story between cork managment and kerry
Out management go through the motions
Kerry are ruthless

munsterlegend wrote: »

Problem for the outside men is we have a full forward line who don't run enough for outside men and give options. Kerry full forward line in a different league that way.

Wrong wrong wrong imo

Hurley o Neill and donnacha good anyone around but can do nothing absoultey nothing let's get it this straight they can do nothing without fast ball


All they get is lateral slow methodical laboured ball
Hurley has to be coached improve he's game

Tell me who coaches him
O Sullivan Davis cuthbhertt
Enlighten me please what their coaching record is
Its actually none in two of them and the other one it's truly appalling let's be honest now in terms of performance


Kerry give their forwards ball as they have a manager that under stands the game
This management doesn't in it reads stuff and preaches the good talk like sweeny said but there not able to do it on the ptich
Look let's be honest
Cork set up like mcgenney armagh and other managers that are poor like kerry Darragh o se they talk the talk but there records are poor

It's not the players fault
They have huge pride as seen by last week back to Wall performance but that only gets you so far
They need a good management
Cuthbhertt needs to go with all bar Flanagan this year and Cork get new management can be a force
But their going now where with this set up and last week moral victory could actually be the worst thing happened cork in this management probably get a new term

rebelomar wrote: »

For God sake...what an absolutely pathetic second half performance. Ended up hoofing it into a midfielder.

Those players need to seriously look at themselves too...the decision making all through the game was dire. Players going for scores from appalling positions...headless chicken stuff. Absolutely awful.

Some of our supposed marquee forwards lack of movement isn't good enough...too happy to coast through games. Don't have the bravery to grab that game by the scuff of the neck.

Didn't deserve to win that game or any game. We don't have the mentality to win big games.

Utter nonsense with respect blame the players
Blame the players is wrong
Cork hurlers suffered same nonsense last year to tippeary when jbm absoultey as he admitted totally blame awful tactical game


Cork hurling thankfully jbm at last has changed the system
Players were targeted from the start
The dog on the street knew o Connor be targeted and Driscoll at half back and Cork running game
Cork didn't change a thing from the ist day
Kerry did
You can't blame the players when management played them wrong position with no plan a or be


Kevin o Driscoll gave he's heart out their today and should been left defending role but Cork had him as creative half forward not suited he's strength

Cronin on geaney was wrong
Donoughe laid off world ball and loughrey couldn't handle him
Wet day cork ran in to traffic
Cork had no midfield partner for o Connor when deane was the man
Donnacha outstanding leader subbed again
This management are out of their depth

Amprodude wrote: »

Cork will be beaten by 5+ points this evening. We left it after us the last day. Colm o Neill should hang his head in shame with that effort of a 45. He should have been a lot more clever and either drive it wide or kick it short to one of his players. You get one chance of beating Kerry and you take it. I don't believe in miracles and we won't be at the races tonight v Kerry. It's Cork football we are talking about here lads. We only ever have won 7 all Ireland's in our history and we all know why.

I got that spot on. They have that traditional habit of messing up. Didn't expect them to win this evening but I always know you could never depend on our footballers to deliver. The Cork team of 1988-90 were the best team we ever produced and we didnt win enough with them. It will be historic if we beat Kerry in the future the way Cork teams are mentally.

Kerry are delighted after this
Two games played with lot learned and a walk in the park v westmeath or fermanagh
Probably fermanagh and considering McGrath coached down best team all ireland semi final they prefer McGrath in he'll give them another blanket defence



Interesting how cork adapt for Dublin
This management you can't predicable what they will do as every defeat it's just panic absoultey panic

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Kerry are delighted after this
Two games played with lot learned and a walk in the park v westmeath or fermanagh
Probably fermanagh and considering McGrath coached down best team all ireland semi final they prefer McGrath in he'll give them another blanket defence



Interesting how cork adapt for Dublin
This management you can't predicable what they will do as every defeat it's just panic absoultey panic

Hopefully we won't have to worry about Dublin. We have no business in the championship after tonight's performance.

solwhit12 wrote: »

Of you go again blame management for everything. The players are all at fault asleep for the goal Hurley a disgrace won't pass easy free in the first half paddy Kelly kicks it straight to a kerryman .that's all is wrong it has been that way for years we can't beat them when it comes to the crunch.

Get real in fairness

Christ you still can't see what bluntly obvious to see
I critsed them from day one with fully justified reason In appalling team selection dropping player playing lads out position


Are you actually able to read a game in can you not see management were at fault in cork didn't change a thing from the drawn game
Kerry oldest man field o mahony sweeper made look awesome



Can you not see defence since last year has been utterly appalling and like minors and senior two years cuthbhertt teams defence wise awful none media highlights this

Would you like me to repost the statics I posted before regards huge concession scores minors had and senior
Can you please name me one game yes just one game last year challenge league or championship we didn't conceded a lot

You fail to realise midfield was shambles
O Connor was ambushes as he's not support


You fail to realise cork attack all year even McGrath cup going scoreless play v tipp and sixty minutes without point play v waterford have been here all year


With respect it's stares you in the face the problems with this team
You made me laugh when you compare him to jbm in the past
Cork may well loose next week but jbm done more cork hurling than the football manager

Gould terrific talent but made look poor this set up asked time and again play senior big games
Did he actually touch the ball when he came on

He's started dropped started dropped
In fairness learn to read a game with respect don't be talking utter nonsense

O’Donoghue man of the match was a joke one point from all that possession is a bad turn out, loughory played very well on him. we even handeled the long ball well in the first half. the defence done well for most part. We just missing that killer instinct.

munsterlegend wrote: »

A team with a full forward line who hide behind their men is going nowhere. Management may be poor but players must use their head too. The basic footballing skills such as passing and kicking were poor tonight compared to kerry.

I don't understand why we don't adapt to Kerrys style of football. They know how Cork play and adapt. Cork should do alot more kick passing and less short passing and running and try it out.

Pos087 wrote: »

O’Donoghue man of the match was a joke one point from all that possession is a bad turn out, loughory played very well on him. we even handeled the long ball well in the first half. the defence done well for most part. We just missing that killer instinct.

Cork were absoultey dominated to be fair bar the goal

Kerry won by five points and never surrender the lead
Six points play full game appalling and Cork didn't deserve win be fair that score
Goal saved us humiliation but this in truth worse than last year as Cork management live off the moral victory in the drawn game

Amprodude wrote: »

I got that spot on. They have that traditional habit of messing up. Didn't expect them to win this evening but I always know you could never depend on our footballers to deliver. The Cork team of 1988-90 were the best team we ever produced and we didnt win enough with them. It will be historic if we beat Kerry in the future the way Cork teams are mentally.

You did but look i wasn't surprised
This was always on the cards

Wouldn't blame o Neill last day he not type kick ball dead deliberately in wanted go jugular and go point


Typical cork though some will critics great great player three cruciate and is great credit to play games when nothing do with o Neill


Management is to blame
I agree with your other points