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Reddit is Clueless

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  • #122
    Dogowner55
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 149 ✭✭Dogowner55


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    She was, but you have to ask yourself to what extent she was hired by the board of Reddit's parent company specifically to act as a lightning rod for criticism. How many of their policies did she accept 100% of the blame for implementing? I can't help feeling that some of the most unpopular things she did were actually decisions made by the corporate gobsh!tes and that she was merely a decoy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXbje3Czh4k

    The censorship was her I think but what she really had to quit for the firing of Victoria probably wasn't her idea I would say. But then there is the firing of the admin that had cancer also and that seemed to be her so who knows.


  • #123
    Earthhorse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,717 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    She was, but you have to ask yourself to what extent she was hired by the board of Reddit's parent company specifically to act as a lightning rod for criticism. How many of their policies did she accept 100% of the blame for implementing? I can't help feeling that some of the most unpopular things she did were actually decisions made by the corporate gobsh!tes and that she was merely a decoy.

    If the board had gone and she had stayed people would be arguing that it wasn't their fault, she was just a bad CEO who had implemented their policies badly. Or if they'd both gone we'd have people arguing that neither were to blame and shareholders were just demanding too much too soon. The great thing about being at the top of big corporations is no one is ever to blame.

    In all of her communications she comes across as clueless and out of touch. I'm glad she's gone.


  • #124
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Earthhorse wrote: »
    If the board had gone and she had stayed people would be arguing that it wasn't their fault, she was just a bad CEO who had implemented their policies badly. Or if they'd both gone we'd have people arguing that neither were to blame and shareholders were just demanding too much too soon. The great thing about being at the top of big corporations is no one is ever to blame.

    In all of her communications she comes across as clueless and out of touch. I'm glad she's gone.

    Oh so am I, don't get me wrong. I'm merely suggesting that those who care about Reddit's values shouldn't let their guard down - it could well be that Pao was just a figurehead for bullsh!t which will continue without her.


  • #125
    Dogowner55
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 149 ✭✭Dogowner55


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Oh so am I, don't get me wrong. I'm merely suggesting that those who care about Reddit's values shouldn't let their guard down - it could well be that Pao was just a figurehead for bullsh!t which will continue without her.

    Hey at least it's a white male ceo, so if people complain about bad decisions they won't be able to hide behind misogyny.

    Pao messed up firing another woman, misogyny claims fall flat when people are calling you out for firing a women.


  • #126
    strandroad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    Dogowner55 wrote: »

    Pao messed up firing another woman, misogyny claims fall flat when people are calling you out for firing a women.

    Apparently it was actually a man (Alexis Ohanian) who fired Taylor, but Pao took all the hate and ultimately the fall.

    Anyway, she was hired to grow Reddit with harsh targets and you can hardly grow it without cleaning it up some. I read some subs but don't post because of the toxic waste spilling from hate sections into innocent subs; and it's only getting worse. Now if you do try to clean it up you will face their backlash whether you're an Asian woman or a white man. I don't think people are lining up to take this job and with her history she was misguided to take it in the first place.


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  • #127
    Dogowner55
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 149 ✭✭Dogowner55


    mhge wrote: »
    Apparently it was actually a man (Alexis Ohanian) who fired Taylor, but Pao took all the hate and ultimately the fall.

    Anyway, she was hired to grow Reddit with harsh targets and you can hardly grow it without cleaning it up some. I read some subs but don't post because of the toxic waste spilling from hate sections into innocent subs; and it's only getting worse. Now if you do try to clean it up you will face their backlash whether you're an Asian woman or a white man. I don't think people are lining up to take this job and with her history she was misguided to take it in the first place.

    Buck stops with the ceo, she could not grow reddit cause she caused so many to leave and no one trusts a ceo once they have messed up that bad.


  • #128
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,135 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    strelok wrote: »
    as far as I understand it no one was actually doxed (on the imgur side at least). fatpeoplehate hosted images (that the imgur employees themselves made public on imgur) on the fph sidebar and because reddit and imgur had entered into some sort of publicised agreement or mutual masturbation soon before that, action was taken.

    it's pretty hard to complain about being doxxed when the 'doxx' is something you put online in a public setting to be viewed by the public

    now there undoubtedly was doxxing/harrassment from fph generally speaking (from time to time) and fair enough, if that means it has to go then it has to go but everyone and their dog knows fph was targetted because of what they were not because of what they did. if what they did was actually the issue ****redditsays would have been banned and its mods hung from the streetlights of san francisco long before 2015.
    FPH were going into other subs, like weightloss and suicidewatch and just outright abusing people. They were taking the photos and putting them in fph and ridiculing them, and tagging the user so they would know.
    If they just stuck to their own sub, like the others do, they'd still be there.
    I think most people are glad they're gone. Good post about their raids here.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3cyazn/what_sorts_of_raids_did_rfatpeoplehate_perform_on/


  • #129
    bnt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,144 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Everyone's focusing on the abuse Ellen received, and there is no way it could be justified in any sense. However, considering how many users Reddit has, was it "statistically significant"? By that I mean: with such a large, diverse user base, you expect a minority to be abusive. You can safely ignore them and refuse to be victimised by them. (Which is not as easy as it sounds, I imagine.)

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • #130
    brevity
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,806 ✭✭✭brevity


    Some interesting reading...

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/11/reddit-s-terrorists-have-won-ellen-pao-and-the-failure-to-rebrand-web-2-0.html


  • #131
    Carlos Orange
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭Carlos Orange


    brevity wrote: »
    Some interesting reading...

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/11/reddit-s-terrorists-have-won-ellen-pao-and-the-failure-to-rebrand-web-2-0.html

    It is confusing. It seems Ohanian was the chairman of the board but he also reported to Ellen Pao.
    There are definitely going to be some interesting books about this in a few years.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/3d2hv3/kn0thing_says_he_was_responsible_for_the_change/ct1fbh4


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  • #132
    strandroad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    brevity wrote: »
    Some interesting reading...

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/11/reddit-s-terrorists-have-won-ellen-pao-and-the-failure-to-rebrand-web-2-0.html

    Makes a lot of sense, thanks for the link.


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