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Cruel reality of life for Gardai

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭Nermal


    People saying they can survive on less, would you be willing to swap jobs with them? If the answer is no, then it means they earn either the right amount or nowhere near enough.

    The Garda recruitment process is heavily oversubscribed. We're actually paying them far too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Was there not a similar story in another rag a few months back about two Gardai on €100k ish similarly claiming they were going without food some days? And it turned out the issue was they had to maintain 2 buy-to-let properties on top of their own?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    gardai are forced to sleep in their cars
    I hope it's their own veh-hic-les.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Pocoyo


    ''I’ll go as far as to say bullying is rife in An Garda Siochana and those who are doing it are advancing up the ladder at the expense of everyone else.''

    Anyone who personally knows a member of the gardai has heard this statement before,Now think about that these are the people policing our streets,They need a radical overhaul, Their conflict resolution skills are appalling,The majority of security guards would have better resolution skills than a large number of the gardai.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,247 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    We keep hearing about the car sleeping.

    Do any officers sleep in beds?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    seamus wrote: »
    Was there not a similar story in another rag a few months back about two Gardai on €100k ish similarly claiming they were going without food some days? And it turned out the issue was they had to maintain 2 buy-to-let properties on top of their own?

    It was last year I think. It was written from the pov of his wife who said the same about having only cereal to eat some days, while struggling to pay for 3 properties.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    Didnt know the Gards were the only people to suffer cutbacks, changes to their cost of living, sleeping in cars zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz if yer man looked hard enough around his house he prob could do without many things the rest of us had to sacrifice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Dawn Rider


    Wonder if this one knows the other two who were so hard done by that they needed to steal money from ATM's?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    The amount of gardai who are also landlords is insane


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭tastyt


    We all know guards, it's not like they live in a different secret land. We all see them and the quality of life they have ain't so shabby. There are a lot of other people with more reason to complain


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I dont believe that aul guff for a second

    most gardai i know have a few properties and do nixers on the side


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    He seems very worried about being caught doing something. There really isn't anything I do while working that I would get fired for. What is he doing?

    Apparently, and this is only what I heard but just to make ends meet he deals a bit of Charlie - I mean they'd get it anyway, where's the harm.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    Pocoyo wrote: »
    The gardai want a bigger piece of the pie after all they are the ones doing Enda Kenny's dirty work.
    Shower of morons attending meter installations over serious crime its pathetic,You'd imagine some form
    of moral objection would enter their heads they dont give a **** about their duty to the public.

    Mmmmmmm pie mmmmmmm!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭irishgirl19


    He's wage is probably making more than myself and my partners combined wages at the moment and we are still paying rent every month and have a baby on the way. We don't get social welfare.
    For that guard to say people on the dole getting more money I don't think is true.
    If it was then I'm sure everyone would stop wasting their time working.
    I wish I was on his wage! I certainly wouldn't be moaning saying I'm living day to day


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    I dont believe that aul guff for a second

    most gardai i know have a few properties and do nixers on the side
    Whats the problem with a bit of enterprise once they are tax compliant and not whinging?
    There are thousands of people with rental properties, doing nixers etc. And those who havent are the usual begrudgers who wont get off their arse and expect society to susbidise them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 1800


    Young Gardai get paid an absolute pittance and treated like absolute ****e. But that happens to all young people starting out here thats why most of them fcuk off abroad into a functioning and fair society.

    I'm not having it that a sergeant 10 years in the force is eating cereal. Whats so pathetic about this is, there are so many things Gardai could complain about so a false story like this does nobody any favours.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    Super-Rush wrote: »
    It was last year I think. It was written from the pov of his wife who said the same about having only cereal to eat some days, while struggling to pay for 3 properties.
    The sacrifice will be worth it in the long run


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Is this not an article about the reality of life with a huge mortgage that your can't afford rather than about Garda wages?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    wp_rathead wrote: »
    Cereal? Well for some..

    Jokes aside, that's a terrible decision to make. I am assuming being a Gard he is a big enough fella, and cereal is one of the bigger rip offs in any supermarket. To eat enough to constantly keep himself full or close to it, he's got to be running through a reasonable bit of cash. He would do far better shopping around for canned tuna, cheap cuts of meat, etc (you can find most answers on Google here, so working in the days is no excuse) and basing them around rice and cheap, homemade sauces. That and frozen, home-made meals like stews, curries and soups which are all pretty easy to make and way more cost-efficient (as well as nutritious) than bloody cereal.

    Also pizzas - you can make a pizza for about 60-70c (cheese and sauce included; chuck in whatever is spare in the fridge or presses for toppings), and can make them in bulk to freeze after. It really grates me seeing people pay €5+ for them in the supermarket, or who frequently pay €15+ or whatever to get them in take aways, then turn around complaining about always being broke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,247 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    Yeah, cereal only diet is pricey.
    So, I assume he budgets like an idiot.

    He'll be regular as clockwork though.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    SpaceTime wrote: »
    Is this not an article about the reality of life with a huge mortgage that your can't afford rather than about Garda wages?
    Eh, no. There is no mention of a mortgage anywhere. It's about the ' Cruel reality of life for Gardai '


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Eh, no. There is no mention of a mortgage anywhere. It's about the ' Cruel reality of life for Gardai '

    Fair enough!

    Needs to budget better then as that's not a particularly low wage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 1800


    I love when people say life is so much better on the Dole. Go ahead then buddy theres **** all stopping you quitting your job and going on it. See how you like your life being harrassed by idiots in social welfare offices who can click their finger and suspend your payment over nothing. Faceless rude people who have no problem sending threatening letters or phonecalls but when you need them they are nowhere to be found. They'll force you onto pointless out of date FAS courses or a Slavebridge internship, but try and go back to College to better yourself and they will put every obstacle in your way.

    I'm know there are certain jobs out there that pay so bad and treat you like dirt, where its better on the scratcher. But a Gardai sergeant with 10 years and all payments that go with it is certainly not something you'd give up for welfare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭eisen1968


    No sympathy for them. Truth is they do live in a different secret land. Its called the land of "dancing lesbians rocking chairs and poetry. Garda comes into a school to talk to young kids about the Gardaí. Lets them try his radio, wear his cap takes them for a drive in the car, lets them turn on the siren etc. Kids have a great time. Teacher asks kids to write a small essay on their day with the garda. All kids say how great it was , such a nice man I wanna be a Garda when I grow up etc. ALL EXCEPT ONE KID.John He writes " All gardai are Bastards" in his copybook. The teacher is shocked. She contacts the Gda in question and tells him. Next day a special treat is organised for little John. He gets to go to the station, meets the other gardai, looks at the cells, gets his own little uniform. Goes on a garda motorbike. Goes on patrol etc. Gets treated to sweets crisps and other goodies. The following day the teacher asks him to write a small essay on his experience of his day spent with the gardai. He writes a few words and hands it up to his teacher. She expects a totally different and more positive response this time. She looks at his copybook and this time he has written." All Gardaí are sneaky bastards! "


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,114 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    1800 wrote: »
    Young Gardai get paid an absolute pittance and treated like absolute ****e. But that happens to all young people starting out here thats why most of them fcuk off abroad into a functioning and fair society.

    I'm not having it that a sergeant 10 years in the force is eating cereal. Whats so pathetic about this is, there are so many things Gardai could complain about so a false story like this does nobody any favours.

    Aye, New teachers, nurses, social care and Gardaí (dunno about Fire Service tbh) are getting screwed alright - the unions (who supposed to protect workers) completely sold them out and have created a two tier environment in these sectors..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Eh, no. There is no mention of a mortgage anywhere. It's about the ' Cruel reality of life for Gardai '

    If he's got no mortgage he's even better off. What's he complaining about.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,119 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    eviltwin wrote: »
    If he's got no mortgage he's even better off. What's he complaining about.
    We don't know if he has a mortgage as the article is selective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 1800


    wp_rathead wrote: »
    Aye, New teachers and Gardaí are getting screwed alright - the unions (who supposed to protect workers) completely sold them out and have created a two tier environment in these sectors..

    I know older teachers on figures around 100k and over once their side work like grinds, exam correcting, exam making, exam monitoring and other handy numbers are thrown in. Thats before some of the gold plated pensions come into play. Obviously not all of them are doing that work but alot of the better teachers who are bothered are. I've heard of some teachers even quitting the profession because their side work such as grinds was so lucrative they didnt need to work anymore.

    All of this income tax free of course. Other teachers in the political sector have even more handy cash in the door but I wont even waste time going there. But certainly younger teachers and graduates now will suffer because of the unions abandoning them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    snubbleste wrote: »

    The smell of bull off large sections of that article is horrific.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭celligraphy


    I knew a girl who's dad was a gardai, the times she complained so much about her poor dad , how broke he was having to go out only once a month and how miserable he was about all the debts he had how he recently had to downgrade his car .

    How it wasn't fair the poor man , he had to pay 3 mortgages for his home, his holiday home in Irelemd and his holiday home in Spain and having to downgrade his 2012 bmw to a 2009 volvo


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