Cork GAA Discussion Thread

D'Agger wrote: »

Passion & wearing a heart on his sleeve aren't credentials that matter when it comes to punditry or analysis & far too often Brolly lets his emotions take over like a fella in the pub after a match. The panel is quickly becoming a parody, similar to their soccer coverage - RTE won't make the change because their controversy stirs up viewing numbers & has people talking about RTEs coverage - no such thing as bad press so far as their concerned

That's ironic!.

At least Brolly makes some attempt at analysis. Pat Spillane, on the other just gives his mouth full throttle while his brain remains in neutral.

Spillane still can't remove himself from the Northern teams hegemony over Kerry for years.

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

http://www.eveningecho.ie/sport/another-cruel-defeat-has-left-cork-hurling-on-its-knees/

The very last part Murphy is bang on the money
And Cork still need more money invested help outstanding work rebel og


Also cork are out of the minor football for a good few weeks now so why not appointment minor set up next year in rather wait October appointment now would mean management set up plans next year go watch players and see who's on radar and by players knowing now who manager seen games gives them encouragement play good

Kerry were fast by improving way do things saying next under twenty manager is jack and he's already put s and c plan in place under twenty one team


Minors kerry understand will wait as kerry still in minor all ireland and another outstanding success again second minor two years under jack in munster before announced he's successor



Rumours has it if true tommy griffin will be involved who good coach
Cork have to get the minor management right as the talent is there

I have heard a little rumour that Donal O Sullivan is going to be asked again to be manager ...that's all it is a little rumour by that I mean someone told me they heard he was asked....

http://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/10-key-issues-that-could-decide-the-munster-final-replay-between-cork-and-kerry-31356865.html

Interesting points

Good thing from Cork is there's so much to improve also but that's the key
Defence can and has to improve
Scoring and link between attack and defence has to also


Three other key points have to improve i think

Cork need more better spread of players than four to score
We still like in keys periods last year this year don't do great teams do yet in great teams when out games still manages keep score board ticking over


Ronan o gara always said hallmarks great Munster wins was they always kept the score board ticking over

We scores just one two play in the ist half of football and yet in the second half didn't score from play for twenty minutes of the final part of the game bar a goal

We are not scoring enough points in long periods from play at key moments for long spells
If and you expect worst play kerry as only then you ready every eventually and prevention better any cure kerry stop goals then cork need greater point scoring return
We can still get a goal but if we get one and not two we have to make up the difference points wise




Cork done a lot right in the build up last week particularly with shut mouth catches no flies in they were brilliant all credit due by saying little in building up to the game


They be fair deserve credit they learned from before
Same approach should be said and if have to give one interview but say kerry are team beat all ireland champions die hard and it wasn't the real kerry the ist day in Kerry will be harder to beat the next day
Say how mayo found it hard last year in the replay and Cork are building etc
Yerra mode has to be full throttle
Obviously closed doors you tell players belive you can win
Sean mac was right he said Cork need to close shop again for the replay
There's a song should be played every cork panel members between now two weeksin the less said the betterin the build up to the game
It's you say it best when you say nothing at all by boy zone

There's no hiding place this time for either team and ist time in yonks we l won't get phoney war munster final asthe way the structure draw is with Dublin waiting who ever looses in truth looses possibly of more than a munster final
The stakes have never been higher for both teams for championship football

Cork loose it means likely loose Dublin so another season two big games losses and it hinders true evolution and progress

Kerry loose there real danger going out early and won't go down well in kerry in least expect is strong showing defence all ireland title

Gary Neville wrote: »

TTM - Like you I'm delighted to see R Deane back in action and we need someone with his size and strength. However, he still looks a bit short of match fitness to me. He looked a little sluggish and seemed to be carrying a few extra pounds. All perfectly understandable after an ACL rupture. Cooper was injured well before Deane and still doesn't look 100 %.

I can't see Ruairi being a factor this season. What do u think ?

I was very impressed with M O Laoire for the Juniors v Limerick and a friend told me he was one of our few stand-out players v Kerry. I'd love to see him get an opportunity with Maguire out and Deane struggling.

O'Laoire you'd imagine might be brought in for training - would be no harm to do so if he's in good form as the junior game vs. Kerry would indicate.

Was gutted for Deane when he did his knee, was going very well - played in the inside forward line for Carberry I believe and got through an amount of ball linking play, if he can get up to speed he's a very good option to have coming off the bench but I don't see him starting

Gary Neville wrote: »

TTM - Like you I'm delighted to see R Deane back in action and we need someone with his size and strength. However, he still looks a bit short of match fitness to me. He looked a little sluggish and seemed to be carrying a few extra pounds. All perfectly understandable after an ACL rupture. Cooper was injured well before Deane and still doesn't look 100 %.

I can't see Ruairi being a factor this season. What do u think ?

I was very impressed with M O Laoire for the Juniors v Limerick and a friend told me he was one of our few stand-out players v Kerry. I'd love to see him get an opportunity with Maguire out and Deane struggling.

To get match fit best prescription is games games games games

Gooch there's nothing wrong with he's fitness as shown v tipp
He was fine v Cork considering kerry hadn't momentum that time

Typical kerry yerra will be he's off pace struggling etc and probably this week one kerry media will break news there's injury worry etc etc kerry still not right
He's struggling so Cork pick same defence again

We have seen this script before
I don't blame kerry they do what have do
If cork belive it our fault
They can play yerra but we don't have to buy it

Deane played club and ten minutes Sunday hardly going bring match fitness up
He needed more time Sunday

Leary would be something new and we don't know was he up it
He deserved chance
Gould was at best okay but he faded and as been unfairly over years asked play half forward midfield full forward centre forward now sweeper at times he's no fault he's own jack all trades master none and player need confidence he's lacking it against kerry and they know what to expect with him
Being dropped for clare didn't help either
I would dropped him for clare but difference is would not restated him team for kerry


Cork dropped him then recalled him
Kerry some pundits wanted him recalled and imo that means in truth don't fear him
When kerry tell you you play certain player
Bit like years ago kerry saying they feared cork playing target man
Cork fell it hook line and sinker and duly obliged


There's going to be a lot of yerra talk now spoken in next two weeks and kerry have huge outlet in various cork media with examiner echo and southern star so don't buy all praise kerry give
Kisssne played it beautiful with bit cork yerra earlier referee wasn't that bad and kerry kerry should had penalty and black cards etc cork deserved
Praise kerry to the hilt


To beat them join them
It's not like we haven't plenty lessons from them

D'Agger wrote: »

O'Laoire you'd imagine might be brought in for training - would be no harm to do so if he's in good form as the junior game vs. Kerry would indicate.

Was gutted for Deane when he did his knee, was going very well - played in the inside forward line for Carberry I believe and got through an amount of ball linking play, if he can get up to speed he's a very good option to have coming off the bench but I don't see him starting

I'd agree but crucial think about him he doesn't care about kerry traditional and he's won against them under age he doesn't do reputation
There's difference between no respect and arrogance self confidence
He's arrogance self confidence just what you want v kerry
Hes relished any challenge he ever faced


Also cork missed a trick by not having mac Eoin bench
Now he's better hodnrtt and he's match winner that tough as nails would be ideal kerry in kerry
Again doesn't fear the kerry jersey
Cork need infusion new breed no baggage kerry and Driscoll and Cronin brought that Sunday but more the better blended with experience

I thought club fixtures dates and times were being announced last night?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/munster-final-draw-leads-to-cork-and-kerry-fixtures-chaos-341121.html

There's a piece on it ecks

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

They will be round 3 B qualifiers

So come combination of the winners of
Armagh v Galway
Tyrone v Meath
Derry v Wexford
Tipp v Louth

Draw will be made Monday morning at 8.30am.

That's from kerry thread


Cork loose we play one these

Tipp lost key midfield but should beat louth
Armagh wouldn't worry me slightest great over rated mcgenney
There would be cork connection if met armagh with Julie Davis strength conditions coach with armagh

Galway if win or Tyrone or tipp possible tricky games after loosing to kerry if we do were trying get heads focused in week while one these teams particularly Galway Tyrone eye huge scalp



Must must win game for Cork


I also don't for any second buy talk loose kerry close game get all ireland quarter final loose it's qualified success in any shape or form and if that happens doesn't mean management get new term in yes some argue cork made improvement but if you loose Dublin kerry means really cork ist day was one off in of cork managment are turning corner there's no reason we can't expect beat kerry if we're that good the ist day


We can't loose kerry and Dublin and say we made progress
Results will show other wise and for Cork senior football to change our legacy it has to be all about results

Have no doubt kerry loose this year and next year fitzmaurice be questioned in kerry
He has won all Ireland

Those Kerry boys are at it again ....Dara and Quirke saying that Alan O Connor is a bully ! refs watch out poor Kerry fellas ! but the best I heard today was that there is fighting in the Kerry camp over the return of Fitzmaurices brother in law Paul Galvin ..he returned to the panel after Kerry beat Mayo in the Leauge and since the they have not performed in any match ..yerra .

A former Cork player should be in the paper calling for the ref to watch for neck high tackles, diving and not to award soft frees.

Cork team named tonight
Will some one put it up please as I may be at intermediate game

HighKing33 wrote: »

I still thought some of Cork's attacking play was very pedestrian, carrying the ball to much. Cuthbert has huge faith in the O'Driscolls and possibly what they represent in Cork football but they are, like Deschamps, 'water carriers'. I thought Conor Dorman gave Cork something of an X factor at centre-back and was disappointed not to seem him on the XV. Also Paddy Kelly has to start.

Cuthbert knows Hurley and O'Neill thrive on the long-ball and I would love to see Cork being confident enough to go at Kerry with this tactic.

That the key cork running too much
I have lamented this all year during league and challenges matches were playing like rugby league team at times run run run and it worked patches sunday but we didn't score much ist half bar goal two points and twenty minutes second half no point play so there huge problem there


Barry driscoll was very good be fair outstanding but Cork with him Kerrigan Brian etc Kevin too many runners

Barry is going to be tested defensively next game
I'd leave Brian there as he's better wing back than Barry and attack and defend but better kick passed distance and I'd put him to seven instead Barry and clancy hold up centre at six
It's harsh on Barry but that half back line has change its too attack minded

Kevin I didn't rate be honest but I'd have him there as he was good in fairness now so leave him there
I wouldn't have kerrigan or Gould starting either


Kerry will beef up the centre so Cork have to adapt again
Cork can't be naive to say what worked sunday will work again
You must bring something new again

Cork 0-20 Limerick 0-18 FT

Think that's a decent team.

Ellis will have a big role as sweeper to protect the full back line and to use the ball well as the spare man.

Walsh at 5 is not ideal but he's needed there to compete with Conlon aerially who's been a big problem for us in recent years. Cormac Murphy is probably a bit light at this stage of his career to do that.

Think it has to be Harnedy and Cadogan inside because we'll need Lehane for puck outs at 10. If it's him and Harnedy inside Cronin is our only option for puckouts.

Stopping Clare from scoring goals will go a long way to winning the game. Think we've picked the right full back line in that regard. Cahalane for Honan, Murphy for McGrath and Maccie for O'Donnell. I think Clare have the advantage there but thats our best match ups. O'Neill would be fine in one of the corners but I dont think we can fit him, Maccie and B Murphy into the team without sacrificing something further out the field.

Clare are favourites but we have a punchers chance. Big start will be needed.