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The all new, revised and easier quiz! (mod note posts 1 and 2042)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 899 ✭✭✭FrKurtFahrt


    Jellybaby1 wrote: »
    Well done FrKurtFahrt, 1929 is correct! Your turn to give us a question.

    Thank you

    What was the first man-made object to break the sound barrier?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    I'm thinking something spacey (but not Kevin :D). Toying with suggesting the 'ould Sputnik or Telestar yokes but something later than them. Concorde is maybe too late. No idea. Betcha Brens or Rube would know that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    whip


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭BrensBenz


    Rubecula wrote: »
    whip

    Drat and double drat! You got there while I was just resting my eyes!
    The tip of a whip breaks the sound barrier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    What did SS cars change their name to?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭BrensBenz


    Rubecula wrote: »
    What did SS cars change their name to?

    Did you mean the Chevrolet SS concept car or the original name for Jaaaaaaaggggggssssssss?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,551 ✭✭✭Rubecula


    BrensBenz wrote: »
    Did you mean the Chevrolet SS concept car or the original name for Jaaaaaaaggggggssssssss?

    Was it too easy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 899 ✭✭✭FrKurtFahrt


    Rubecula wrote: »
    whip

    Correct! Well done


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    A whip? A WHIP? So not spacey after all. Drat! Hmm how come Brens and Rube are well acquainted with whips then? Don't answer that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭BrensBenz


    So, Rubes got "whip", then I got Jags so it's my turn?

    OK, a two-part question about ladybirds:
    Why "lady"?
    Why "bird"?

    Yes, I know that Yanks call them ladybugs, but "we" don't!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭BrensBenz


    BrensBenz wrote: »
    So, Rubes got "whip", then I got Jags so it's my turn?

    OK, a two-part question about ladybirds:
    Why "lady"?
    Why "bird"?

    Yes, I know that Yanks call them ladybugs, but "we" don't!

    Janey Mac, the silence is deafening. Would it help if you knew that the German for ladybird is "Marienkäfer" and that "käfer" is "beetle"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    Ah, Marian! It's the Lady's Bird, the scarlet referring to the cloak that Mary used to be shown wearing in ..I dunno what period, Renaissance or pre-renaissance. Oh, and the spots! The spots refer to the seven sorrows/seven joys.

    I'm not sure about why "bird" precisely though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭BrensBenz


    Samaris wrote: »
    Ah, Marian! It's the Lady's Bird, the scarlet referring to the cloak that Mary used to be shown wearing in ..I dunno what period, Renaissance or pre-renaissance. Oh, and the spots! The spots refer to the seven sorrows/seven joys.

    I'm not sure about why "bird" precisely though.

    OK, you're on your way. But why is it named after Mary? And why is it a "bird" rather than a beetle or bug?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    Well, the naming after Mary I think is to do with the scarlet and the spots (the red cloak and the seven sorrows/joys). Bird...I don't know about that unless it's either some sort of corruption of "bride" or else maybe bird being used as a generic term, like bug. Neither of those sound like hugely likely wotsits of inquiry though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,737 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Interesting! I was not aware of any connection between Mary and red cloaks though? Not that I am a Marian scholar by any means!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    I always thought blue was Mary's colour, but that's from looking at art. No-one really knows what colour she wore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭BrensBenz


    You know, I've been thinking about this all night (medication takes a while to kick in) and I think I probably should withdraw this question.

    The actual answer in my head is from an ancient English legend from a time when all events had religious connotations, particularly among farmers and fishermen. They would pray to certain saints for a good crop or catch. According to the legend, fado fado, just before their crops were ready for harvest, swarms of aphids arrived. There was a danger that the entire crop would be lost - it had happened before - and, on those occasions, the saints did not deliver the desired result. Panic spread through the villages and they decided to pray to Mary this time. Well, next morning, swarms of ladybirds had arrived and were munching on the aphids. The crops were saved!

    In return for this, the locals renamed "that red beetle" the "lady" beetle. But, somehow, the "beetle" part didn't seem appropriate so they called it a "bird" instead. So the ladybird was born and that name spread throughout the country and even into mainland Europe - hence Marienkäfer and similar names around Europe.

    Of course, this is pure legend, as is the dark spots representing sorrows. The ladybird in its current livery was living, probably for millions of years before Mary. Aphids and ladybirds arrive at more or less the same time every year, whether prayed for or not, and aphids are the ladybirds' favourite food.

    And I think the change of colour of Mary's cloak from "Mother Mary blue" to red had more to do with the cost of paints than anything else. The artist would use the most expensive paints on the most important subjects. Interestingly, the statues of Mary in most of the churches I've visited (admittedly not very many) had blue rather than red cloaks or shawls.

    This legend is only one of many similar but subtly different legends, all unprovable, so there is no definitive answer and therefore I shouldn't have set the question before checking other possibilities.

    I'll come quietly - no need for cuffs - top of the world, ma!

    Will I set another question or should I cower on the naughty step for a while?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    BrensBenz wrote: »
    Janey Mac, the silence is deafening. Would it help if you knew that the German for ladybird is "Marienkäfer" and that "käfer" is "beetle"?
    Samaris wrote: »
    Ah, Marian! It's the Lady's Bird, the scarlet referring to the cloak that Mary used to be shown wearing in ..I dunno what period, Renaissance or pre-renaissance. Oh, and the spots! The spots refer to the seven sorrows/seven joys.

    I'm not sure about why "bird" precisely though.

    Well after your clue, Samaris seemed to be on top of it. Fight it out between yiz!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭MsGiggles


    I have just learned so much !!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    I'm sure we all have! :D Feel free to jump in when we get another question!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    Oh, that's interesting about the aphids etc! I knew the Mary connection, but I was still fairly far out - ask us another and we'll have another shot, Brens :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭BrensBenz


    Samaris wrote: »
    ...ask us another and we'll have another shot, Brens :D

    OK, a question with just one answer....but beware - it's a little sneaky!

    What was the world's first airline called?

    The bewk that told me this fact included the words "...first airline in revenue service" which, I assume means fares were charged, profits were made, etc. However, the sneaky bit is not there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭MsGiggles


    BrensBenz wrote: »
    OK, a question with just one answer....but beware - it's a little sneaky!

    What was the world's first airline called?

    The bewk that told me this fact included the words "...first airline in revenue service" which, I assume means fares were charged, profits were made, etc. However, the sneaky bit is not there.
    Your going to tell me its not KLM right ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,641 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    Montgolfier Air - French balloonatics. :)

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭BrensBenz


    MsGiggles wrote: »
    I have just learned so much !!!!!

    Well, not really. We make this stuff up as we go along so that passers-by will think "oh, how clever these oulwans and oulfellas are."

    The really important questions, like "Why are we here; What is art; Where (and why) are the teabags hidden", etc. will never be answered here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭MsGiggles


    BrensBenz wrote: »
    Well, not really. We make this stuff up as we go along so that passers-by will think "oh, how clever these oulwans and oulfellas are."

    The really important questions, like "Why are we here; What is art; Where (and why) are the teabags hidden", etc. will never be answered here.
    Hilarious, I forgot this was Oulwans 'n' Oulfellas! Is there an age limit....! Do I have to leave !!!!:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭BrensBenz


    MsGiggles wrote: »
    Your going to tell me its not KLM right ?

    Right. It's not KLM. They are the oldest still in operation but not the first.
    OldGoat wrote: »
    Montgolfier Air - French balloonatics. :)

    No, but not too far out! The problem with Mongolfier Air was that they knew the departure point but could only guess the destination. The market was not terribly impressed with these mystery tours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭MsGiggles


    Tony Jannus in his Benoist airplane with his ONE paying passenger !

    St. Petersburg-Tampa Air Line


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,641 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    BrensBenz wrote: »
    No, but not too far out!

    AHA! Zeppelin Air - German explosive helium balloonatics.

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭BrensBenz


    MsGiggles wrote: »
    Tony Jannus in his Benoist airplane with his ONE paying passenger !

    St. Petersburg-Tampa Air Line

    Very close but the first company was offering regular scheduled flights for profit in 1909 while Jannus first tried it in 1914 or so.


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