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DCM 2015: Mentored Novices Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭hillsiderunner


    nop98 wrote: »
    Do send the route, that's very close to me. I'll incorporate it in the LSR this weekend as some HSR-style recce :)

    make sure you don't head out too late now! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    nop98 wrote: »
    Do send the route, that's very close to me. I'll incorporate it in the LSR this weekend as some HSR-style recce :)

    Most of my mid-week runs will be the same course tho, lunchtime at work is really the only option. But new routes are always welcome, especially now the mileage is increasing! Thanks!

    I did most of my road training on this loop a teenager :) In fact I'm pretty sure it was my first ever 'run' when a gang of us used to do a morning run around there aged 11 or 12 in the summer holidays. Ah memories :cool:

    If you start at the church, go for .8km (:rolleyes: ) straight down Ballybride Road to the top of 'jackers lane', the little lane that takes you over the motorway footbridge, turn right down Lordello Road (no footpath on this stretch as you probably know), all the way to the T junction, turn right up Ferndale Road - this is where the slope is, about 250m - then all the way back to the church. Geodistance measures it just under 2k. The only drawback is that you are doing loops. You could divert by taking the long stretch up by the Travellers' site (Ballychorus?). It's a slight drag up from the church but so good coming back. I think you're familiar with this road? I've been able to really stretch out here, even after a hilly run up around the lead mines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭FBOT01


    Mrs Mc wrote: »
    Your words of run tall and watching my posture were in my head think it helped also discovered I'm a little competitive as I heard someone on my shoulder .... No way was I letting her past me .... What have I become :(

    You must have a few bad influences in your life. Don't be worrying about what those around you are doing just enjoy your running ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,182 ✭✭✭RonanP77


    I did my second run of the week this morning before work, 5k easy @ 6:35/km (as opposed to 6.35) and I'm pleased to report there wasn't the slightest niggle from my calf. I'm still leaving the strides out of tomorrow's run and still calling to the physio on Monday to be safe.

    Now for the bad news, Strava just informed me that someone had the cheek to steal my crown for some short local segment. The obvious option is to stop off on the way home this evening and take it right back. It's a 200m segment up the side of a very steep hill as far as I can tell. I set my time on it last year as part of a very slow 10k.

    The plan would be to do a little warmup at the bottom of the hill, jog lightly to the start of the segment and then absolutely leg it up the hill, I'm talking eyes bulging, muscles popping, lungs burning, spluttering, gasping, flat out sprint. That should just about cut his time in half. Of course that doesn't exactly tie in with what I said above so I may have to leave that until Christmas.


  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RonanP77 wrote: »

    Now for the bad news, Strava just informed me that someone had the cheek to steal my crown for some short local segment. The obvious option is to stop off on the way home this evening and take it right back. It's a 200m segment up the side of a very steep hill as far as I can tell. I set my time on it last year as part of a very slow 10k.

    The plan would be to do a little warmup at the bottom of the hill, jog lightly to the start of the segment and then absolutely leg it up the hill, I'm talking eyes bulging, muscles popping, lungs burning, spluttering, gasping, flat out sprint. That should just about cut his time in half. Of course that doesn't exactly tie in with what I said above so I may have to leave that until Christmas.
    FBOT01 wrote: »
    You must have a few bad influences in your life. Don't be worrying about what those around you are doing just enjoy your running ;)

    :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    make sure you don't head out too late now! :rolleyes:

    I need a picture-log and some strategically parked cars :)
    Dubgal72 wrote: »
    I did most of my road training on this loop a teenager :) In fact I'm pretty sure it was my first ever 'run' when a gang of us used to do a morning run around there aged 11 or 12 in the summer holidays. Ah memories :cool:

    If you start at the church, go for .8km (:rolleyes: ) straight down Ballybride Road to the top of 'jackers lane', the little lane that takes you over the motorway footbridge, turn right down Lordello Road (no footpath on this stretch as you probably know), all the way to the T junction, turn right up Ferndale Road - this is where the slope is, about 250m - then all the way back to the church. Geodistance measures it just under 2k. The only drawback is that you are doing loops. You could divert by taking the long stretch up by the Travellers' site (Ballychorus?). It's a slight drag up from the church but so good coming back. I think you're familiar with this road? I've been able to really stretch out here, even after a hilly run up around the lead mines.

    Yes - that sounds familiar. I have been shying away from the Ferndale Road because of lack of footpath and crazy drivers. I didn't realize that stretch had a footpath? I don't mind Lordello Road as that's very quiet. I shall be giving it a go this evening. :)

    Ballychorus stretch, yes, that's very familiar. One of my favourite routes is up that drag, left onto Puck's Castle Rd (quite steep up), all the way towards Quary Rd where it drops very sharply again towards eventually Ferndale Road. I'm sure you know it well!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    nop98 wrote: »

    Yes - that sounds familiar. I have been shying away from the Ferndale Road because of lack of footpath and crazy drivers. I didn't realize that stretch had a footpath?!
    It doesn't :eek: the trick is to stay facing traffic for 100m then cross over. Just keep an ear out for crazy drivers :D The footpath starts again just after the lane way through the woods so you won't be exposed for too long :)


  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ah Lordello Road.

    One evening last summer, I had gotten my first Garmin and was headed out for a 5km run, I wasn't all that capable of much more at the time. As I now had my trusty garmin, I no longer needed mapmyrun so left my phone at home. I planned out a route before I went out. It included the beautiful Lordello Road, which, despite not being too far from me, was not a road I knew. Well. I know it now.

    This was the facebook status which followed.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    Ah Lordello Road.

    One evening last summer, I had gotten my first Garmin and was headed out for a 5km run, I wasn't all that capable of much more at the time. As I now had my trusty garmin, I no longer needed mapmyrun so left my phone at home. I planned out a route before I went out. It included the beautiful Lordello Road, which, despite not being too far from me, was not a road I knew. Well. I know it now.

    This was the facebook status which followed.

    353921.JPG
    Hahaha which traumatised you more, the unscheduled 12.5km or ending up in Bray :pac:

    Ps are you in a club? If not, I have just the club for you ;)


  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Dubgal72 wrote: »
    Hahaha which traumatised you more, the unscheduled 12.5km or ending up in Bray :pac:

    Ps are you in a club? If not, I have just the club for you ;)

    I've never been so happy to end up in Bray, at least I knew my way home from there. I had visions of ending up in the boot of someone's car, visibility was getting bad, the sun was going down. I was petrified. The only reason I kept running was because I was afraid to walk :o

    No club! Please do tell :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭libelula


    "5k to 12k in one night"


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    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    I've never been so happy to end up in Bray, at least I knew my way home from there. I had visions of ending up in the boot of someone's car, visibility was getting bad, the sun was going down. I was petrified. The only reason I kept running was because I was afraid to walk :o

    No club! Please do tell :)

    Yeah Lordello at night on my own wouldn't be my first choice of solo run! Or any of those back roads....
    I was thinking of Bray Runners as you're in that neck of the woods. They actually train in Shanganagh Park which is really Shankill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭paulers06


    Have people started thinking about their marathon shoes yet?

    Have Kayano's at the moment, about 350miles up and not loving them. Thinking about the Saucony ride 7 next or the Brookes ghost. Can't find Saucony in Limerick so thinking of ordering off lifestyle and can return to a store if I don't like. I'm a 6.5 in Asics, any recommendations on whether to go for a 6 or 7 in Saucony?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 limoncella


    We are having a crazy heat wave here in N. France (home of the gray skies and rain usually). Waited until 9pm last night to do my 3 miler and it was still 33 degrees :eek:! I only managed 2.5 and I felt like dying. Weather will continue to be 30-40 all this week so I may have to resort to the dreadmill tonight and try to wake up before the ball of fire in the sky tomorrow :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    So, I made plans with a friend this evening because it's a rest day, and tomorrow would normally be a run day (easy run) but I forgot I have a work do tomorrow evening.

    I'd normally just go out in the morning but I have a meeting at 8am and don't want to go running on my own in the park at 5am!

    Would getting my 5 mile easy run done on Saturday be feasible? Before I go for my workout? I'm also running a 10 mile LSR on Sunday.

    Or, is it really safe to run the streets and Phoenix Park of Dublin at 5am...for a single woman running alone?

    What would DubGal do? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    paulers06 wrote: »
    Have people started thinking about their marathon shoes yet?
    I've got a pair of Asics Kayanos (2 months old) and a pair of Saucony Guides (6 months old) that I alternate between.
    The Asics feel a little bit lighter and firmer and the Sauconys a bit more comfortable and roomy.

    I'm presuming that at least one pair of these will last me up to October. I'll probably use the Asics.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,492 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    So, I made plans with a friend this evening because it's a rest day, and tomorrow would normally be a run day (easy run) but I forgot I have a work do tomorrow evening.

    I'd normally just go out in the morning but I have a meeting at 8am and don't want to go running on my own in the park at 5am!

    Would getting my 5 mile easy run done on Saturday be feasible? Before I go for my workout? I'm also running a 10 mile LSR on Sunday.

    Or, is it really safe to run the streets and Phoenix Park of Dublin at 5am...for a single woman running alone?

    What would DubGal do? :)

    Can you run at lunchtime or between finishing work and the work do?

    I wouldn't recommend a 5 mile run and a workout followed by a 10 mile run the next day.

    Can't comment on how safe streets are at that time, I'd imagine they're fine but I'm always tucked up in bed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    adrian522 wrote:
    Can you run at lunchtime or between finishing work and the work do?


    I only get an hour for lunch so that's not enough time unfortunately. The work do is in our office backyard, straight after work. It's a yearly do that I can't really miss.

    Darn it. I can't believe I was so forgetful!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    I only get an hour for lunch so that's not enough time unfortunately. The work do is in our office backyard, straight after work. It's a yearly do that I can't really miss.

    Darn it. I can't believe I was so forgetful!

    What about leaving early and getting a run in before it gets too late? If it's straight after work you should be able to hang around for a few hours before splitting off.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,492 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Could you get your run in after work then go to the work do? Or else run after the work do when temps are a bit cooler anyway?

    If you can't get it done, you can't get it done, chalk it down to experience and move on. One missed run won't have too great an impact come October.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    adrian522 wrote: »
    Could you get your run in after work then go to the work do? Or else run after the work do when temps are a bit cooler anyway?

    If you can't get it done, you can't get it done, chalk it down to experience and move on. One missed run won't have too great an impact come October.

    Would doing a shorter run be better than none at all? So run at lunchtime for 45 mins whatever distance that gets you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Clearlier


    I only get an hour for lunch so that's not enough time unfortunately. The work do is in our office backyard, straight after work. It's a yearly do that I can't really miss.

    Darn it. I can't believe I was so forgetful!

    Why not do whatever you can during lunch, if that's 3 miles, it's better than 0. As Adrian said though 1 missed easy run isn't neither here nor there in the greater scheme of things.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,492 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    paulers06 wrote: »
    Have people started thinking about their marathon shoes yet?

    I think of little else!
    paulers06 wrote: »
    Have Kayano's at the moment, about 350miles up and not loving them. Thinking about the Saucony ride 7 next or the Brookes ghost. Can't find Saucony in Limerick so thinking of ordering off lifestyle and can return to a store if I don't like. I'm a 6.5 in Asics, any recommendations on whether to go for a 6 or 7 in Saucony?

    I've used both the Brooks Ghost and the Saucony Ride.

    One thing I will say is that the Asics is a support shoe while the other 2 are neutral. Have you got Gait analysis done?

    If you need a support shoe I wouldn't go with the Ride or the Ghost.

    I'd certainly recommend you try out any shoes you are thinking about in the shop before buying them if at all possible.

    I don't know any running shops in Limerick but I'm sure somewhere must stock those shoes you mention.

    This is from another thread, might be worth a shot:
    JohnDozer wrote: »
    Gleesons in upper William street have a decent reputation. .

    Have you tried there?

    This is the tread if you want to have a read

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=94128361


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    So, I made plans with a friend this evening because it's a rest day, and tomorrow would normally be a run day (easy run) but I forgot I have a work do tomorrow evening.

    I'd normally just go out in the morning but I have a meeting at 8am and don't want to go running on my own in the park at 5am!

    Would getting my 5 mile easy run done on Saturday be feasible? Before I go for my workout? I'm also running a 10 mile LSR on Sunday.

    Or, is it really safe to run the streets and Phoenix Park of Dublin at 5am...for a single woman running alone?

    What would DubGal do? :)

    Hehe just read all those replies thinking 'oh yeah, that would work', 'oh yeah that's a good idea', 'yeah one missed run isn't the end of a run' and 'yep definitely, something is better than nothing...' So any of the above :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    adrian522 wrote: »
    I think of little else!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 438 ✭✭Omeceron


    5 miles with 3 miles MP done.

    |Plan|Actual
    Warm Up|11:00ish|10:36
    Mile 1|10:10 - 10:30|10:11
    Mile 2|10:10 - 10:30|10:28
    Mile 3|10:10 - 10:30|09:56
    Cool down|11:00 ish|10:47


    Controlling my pace is hard. I thought mile 1 was faster and I am amazed with mile 3. I really thought I had done a consistent 10:20 on that mile.

    Overall happy enough, didn't feel under any real pressure during it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Mrs Mc


    FBOT01 wrote: »
    You must have a few bad influences in your life. Don't be worrying about what those around you are doing just enjoy your running ;)

    Where are the wise words of don't look at your watch don't let anyone pass you and take everyone out in front of you for the last 800 meters gone ????? Mmmmm who said that to me ????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    Omeceron wrote: »
    5 miles with 3 miles MP done.

    |Plan|Actual
    Warm Up|11:00ish|10:36
    Mile 1|10:10 - 10:30|10:11
    Mile 2|10:10 - 10:30|10:28
    Mile 3|10:10 - 10:30|09:56
    Cool down|11:00 ish|10:47


    Controlling my pace is hard. I thought mile 1 was faster and I am amazed with mile 3. I really thought I had done a consistent 10:20 on that mile.

    Overall happy enough, didn't feel under any real pressure during it.

    Well done and don't worry about the pace distribution this week, it's all about getting the feel for the session right now and beginning to analyse how you felt on each section so job done there :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Mrs Mc


    paulers06 wrote: »
    Have people started thinking about their marathon shoes yet?

    Have Kayano's at the moment, about 350miles up and not loving them. Thinking about the Saucony ride 7 next or the Brookes ghost. Can't find Saucony in Limerick so thinking of ordering off lifestyle and can return to a store if I don't like. I'm a 6.5 in Asics, any recommendations on whether to go for a 6 or 7 in Saucony?

    Was in Saucony last year but changed to Kayanos this year found them really light and great support nearly died at the price of them ..... I've never paid that for shoes !!! Crying shame :( but finding the Kayanos good. Got the analysis done over in amphibian king.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭This Fat Girl Runs


    Dubgal72 wrote: »
    Hehe just read all those replies thinking 'oh yeah, that would work', 'oh yeah that's a good idea', 'yeah one missed run isn't the end of a run' and 'yep definitely, something is better than nothing...' So any of the above :D

    Yeah, same here.

    I think I'll go early in the morning, 5.30 maybe, and run what I can in the time I have. Have to be home by 6.45 to start getting ready for work. Running at lunchtime wouldn't be feasible as I couldn't shower afterwards and on the day of a work do, I'd definitely want to be showered! :pac:


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