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Donegal GAA Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭Shadow1983


    Does anyone know if tonight's game will be on TV?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    SKY 3,it is not been shown on terrestrial TV. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    Derry need to put a taller speedy man marker on Michael Murphy for the entire game. Put Lynch, Bradley and if selected Kielt in a diamond 21 to 30 yards from goal. Perfect target for Derrys posession. If they will actually kick the ball. Based on matches this year they won't. Paddy Bradley reckons 9 out of the top 10 scorers in Derry club football this year are not on the panel!!!
    Paddy Bradley unfit is still better than most forwards. Remember this guy is regressing from being the most game winning forward in the country. He won several games every single season on his own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    There was no finer forward than Paddy Bradley in his heyday,he'd still walk into most intercounty teams.Eoin is pretty damn handy too and will be vital to whatever limited chance of success Derry have this evening. Looking forward to a tight(ish) game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Nidgeweasel


    seligehgit wrote: »
    There was no finer forward than Paddy Bradley in his heyday,he'd still walk into most intercounty teams.Eoin is pretty damn handy too and will be vital to whatever limited chance of success Derry have this evening. Looking forward to a tight(ish) game.

    Remember hearing on the early morning bulletin that Eoin had done his cruciate in the lead up to the 2011 Ulster final. Sin é after that. Fantastic footballers the pair of them.

    Your man O Boyle is he purely in as a target man?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    I know of someone who spent an hour trying to get through Enniskillen. Hope too many didn't make that mistake!

    Derry Minors arrived on the bus togged out

    Good Donegal support here.

    Shabby enough treatment for season ticket holders again...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Remember hearing on the early morning bulletin that Eoin had done his cruciate in the lead up to the 2011 Ulster final. Sin é after that. Fantastic footballers the pair of them.

    Your man O Boyle is he purely in as a target man?

    Think you might have me mistaken for a Derry man :) Mayo man myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Very poor from the Minors. Derry full value for the win. The missed penalty was symptomatic of the overall display.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Nidgeweasel


    Fúcking disaster.

    I've a horrible feeling generally. Had it all afternoon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭awnow


    does anyone know if there's a LIVE stream of the game??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    Five each at half time. Derry should let the ball in quicker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    Five each at half time. Derry should let the ball in quicker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    This is worrying. Five scores from 17. Paddy doesn't want to be out there. Not sure it was wise to leave him on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭RGM


    Too much standing around. Where is the drive to get forward?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    Derry would have won if Lynch and Bradley were placed near OBoyle. McIvers decisions and attacking tactics were abysmal. Left OBoyle isolated in treble coverage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Nidgeweasel


    Shades of Down in 2013.

    Derry's set up contributed to it but we were flat, stationary and lethargic.

    We need a massive improvement to take this title.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭babybuilder


    Shocking game but a win nevertheless. As has been said reminds me of Down game in 2013. Very leggy performance plus poor decision making. Perhaps culmination of a series of tough months of training. Monaghan will set up exactly the same as Derry leaving two target men up front.

    Half forward line really non-existent. Don't understand this thing of soloing up to the blanket and then turning around and passing it back from where you started. Teams are and will cop on to marking the line breakers like Lacey and McGlynn. The lack of physicality of ryan McHugh is apparent when the other teams set up like Derry. Derry at times got through our defensive line quite easily but kicked very poorly.
    Positives are the scrappy etched out win and a reminder of big Neil's value to the team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Nidgeweasel


    Two things.

    1) we really struggle against such a defensive set up. It counteracts our own game so much it is hugely problematic.

    2) we are incredibly light in terms of options and squad.


    Big increase needed. Don't want to be going to scenic route.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Nidgeweasel


    Double post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭babybuilder


    Two things.

    1) we really struggle against such a defensive set up. It counteracts our own game so much it is hugely problematic.

    2) we are incredibly light in terms of options and squad.


    Big increase needed. Don't want to be going to scenic route.

    Totally agree. Are the players we rely on beginning to suffer physically through tiredness and injuries? The players coming off the bench don't offer that much. Would be great to get Mcloon and ryan Bradley back as well as a fit Anthony Thompson. Looking ahead it would be an incredible achievement to get to the All Ireland semis. Dublin, Kerry or Cork will not have to expend the same effort.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Not impressed at all but our fifth Ulster Final in five years by as hard a route as you could take. Plenty to work on ahead of 19 July which is fine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 298 ✭✭Mackas_view


    Not fully convinced it was just a bad day of the office I think it could of been partly a tactic played by RG.
    We showed no sense of urgency or intensity either in getting back to defend or breaking on the counter attack. A few times the Derry forwards were let kick points without anyone closing them down.
    It's a bit outside the box but I think we kept Bradley scoreless from play which was a priority, we didn concede a goal and we scored one. Sounds to me like three boxes ticked that were crucial to winning the game. Possibly to ensure we don't peak to early. I know the wides were shocking but that comes with complacency when you deploy that kind of tactic.

    Just a bit of outside the box thinking. I don't believe so many top players can have a quiet day at the office just by coincidence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭Alvin Holler


    Surprised that McHugh didn't start, not sure if there was any reason for this. O'Reilly seems to have a nice habit of scoring goals but doesn't offer much else.

    Thought we kicked too much long ball yesterday, we don't really have many decent long kickers and our full forward line were usually out numbered. Our best football is usually built around a running game which was missing yesterday. Hopefully with 3 weeks to the Ulster final we'll be able to sort things out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,791 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Not fully convinced it was just a bad day of the office I think it could of been partly a tactic played by RG.
    We showed no sense of urgency or intensity either in getting back to defend or breaking on the counter attack. A few times the Derry forwards were let kick points without anyone closing them down.
    It's a bit outside the box but I think we kept Bradley scoreless from play which was a priority, we didn concede a goal and we scored one. Sounds to me like three boxes ticked that were crucial to winning the game. Possibly to ensure we don't peak to early. I know the wides were shocking but that comes with complacency when you deploy that kind of tactic.

    Just a bit of outside the box thinking. I don't believe so many top players can have a quiet day at the office just by coincidence

    Don't think it's as simplistic as that, but I think they maybe didn't want to show too much. If they went out and did what they did to Armagh the hype leading up to the final would have been ridiculous so a poor performance and a win not necessarily a bad thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭greeno


    Poor performance but I do think it was deliberate the hype after Armagh was out of control.

    Donegal always looked like they had an extra gear I never doubted they wouldn't win the game. Reminded me of the QF against Armagh last year where they pushed on and won when needed. It's a pleasure to see a donegal team with balls, 6-7 years ago that game would of been lost.

    Roll on the ulster final 5 finals in 5 years it's the golden years enjoy it while it lasts. Never in my wildest dreams last decade did I think Donegal would push on to be this team


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭North of 32


    Surprised that McHugh didn't start, not sure if there was any reason for this. O'Reilly seems to have a nice habit of scoring goals but doesn't offer much else.

    That's a really unusual criticism. Your forward scoring goals - what else could you ask for? :D I think I see what you're getting at with his limitations, but given his role, he just can't contribute as much. Mark McHugh starts from the base of the field, often collecting the ball in defense. He gets so many more possessions, so obviously that makes it more likely he'd contribute to general play. He hasn't scored a goal in the last 2 games, though. Plus, O'Reilly does work very hard in tracking back.

    The decision making was poor yesterday, the parallel running was out of synch and players generally looked lethargic. Some of the kick passes were very poor, and I remember at one point Frank McGlynn had space to run into, as well as a man to pass forward to, but instead he slowed down while in possession and waited what seemed like an age for someone to run off him. It characterised what seemed like a slow-thinking day.

    I thought leaving Neil Gallagher at full forward for so long at the beginning of the game was unnecessary and definitely done for too long. We were struggling to move the play forward in midfield while Neil was sitting, marked up, at full forward. Neil then won the game with his strong spell later in the match. He has been effective there before but I would have switched him out immediately when things slowed down so much in midfield.

    Derry defended excellently, and with McBrearty almost certainly injured, it was a good win but not a good performance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,185 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    This idea that Donegal intentionally played badly to dampen down hype is BS if you ask me.

    No team with the experience of Donegal is going to go into a Ulster SF against a team like Derry and hold back in order to quell hype or not want to show too much, as if there is something new to them that Monaghan have yet to encounter.
    Donegal have to be be pretty close to their peak for such a game

    If they were leggy due to tough training that's fine, they got through, but if they were poor due to the fact that they may not be all that good then that is another problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    Caileen OBoyle caused them problems. McIver however is far too emotional and close minded towards tactics to have took advantage. When he should have been playing to get the draw in the last ten minutes he was busy roaring abuse at the ref and busy deciding to take off OBoyle and Bradley. Bradley did not score but he had some good passes to OBoyle. Bradley and Lynch should have been closer to OBoyle.
    McGoldrick who had 28 posessions did not have the talent to do anything with it. Unless OBoyle was injured subbing him was madness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭North of 32


    I thought the crowd was very flat yesterday too. At times you would hear a pin drop.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,791 ✭✭✭✭fullstop



    If they were leggy due to tough training that's fine, they got through, but if they were poor due to the fact that they may not be all that good then that is another problem.

    Yeah they're sh!te Tod, but you knew that. Have you got bored of winding them up in the Roscommon thread?


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