DAS and B&B cattle

mayota · 09-03-2015 05:25PM #1

Can I use b&b cattle for DAS minimum stocking rates. I have new herd number but no stock of my own yet..

mayota · 10-03-2015 10:28AM

Any info on this lads?

merryberry · 10-03-2015 11:51AM

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patrickn · 10-03-2015 03:34PM

mayota wrote: »

Can I use b&b cattle for DAS minimum stocking rates. I have new herd number but no stock of my own yet..

If you have no stock in your own Herd number you will not qualify with b and b stock registered under someone elses herd number. To qualify for DAS you will need to have minimum stock level in your herd for 7 consecutive months in this calendar year.

Farrell · 17-06-2015 01:19PM

Quick question
We've under stocked this year and very tempted to let neighbour graze some of the fields.
We're going to do correctly with B&B, but he intends using his springers.
If these should calve while in B&B, do they get his tag or mine?

golfhead · 17-06-2015 09:39PM

If they calve on your holding, then they must be tagged with your tags.

Farmer Pudsey · 18-06-2015 12:23AM

Cattle under B&B arrangments are not suitable for DA stocking rate. you may get away with it however if department check and find you do not own the cattle they will recoup the payment. Cattle owned and farmed at owner risk are those that should only be used for DAS stocking rates.

OnDtown · 18-06-2015 09:02AM

patrickn wrote: »

If you have no stock in your own Herd number you will not qualify with b and b stock registered under someone elses herd number. To qualify for DAS you will need to have minimum stock level in your herd for 7 consecutive months in this calendar year.

QQ on this, if your minimum stocking rate was determined to be 10 cattle, >24month, but you ended up with 20 of these cattle, would this reduce the total length of time you would need to keep them in your heard or is the 7 consecutive months set in stone?

ABlur · 18-06-2015 01:35PM

OnDtown wrote: »

QQ on this, if your minimum stocking rate was determined to be 10 cattle, >24month, but you ended up with 20 of these cattle, would this reduce the total length of time you would need to keep them in your heard or is the 7 consecutive months set in stone?

The seven months are set in stone as i learnt to my cost by being 5 days short of the limit and losing my DAS payment!

Farrell · 18-06-2015 02:46PM

golfhead wrote: »

If they calve on your holding, then they must be tagged with your tags.

Thanks for that, was thinking the case but had to be sure.
Will have them for only 4 weeks, hopefully they carry a little longer

AP2014 · 18-06-2015 04:48PM

ABlur wrote: »

The seven months are set in stone as i learnt to my cost by being 5 days short of the limit and losing my DAS payment!

That's some kick in the stones, worth remembering this year you also have to have an average over the year of 0.15.

djmc · 18-06-2015 04:55PM

mayota wrote: »

Can I use b&b cattle for DAS minimum stocking rates. I have new herd number but no stock of my own yet..

I know a guy contract rearing heifers cattle are transferred to his herd when reared and paid in full they are transferred back with movement permits
This gives peace of mind of being paid in full and he can use stock for das as they are legally in his own heard until reared.

DAS and B&B cattle

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