Soccer Forum Feedback Thread 2015

SlickRic · 14-06-2015 11:10AM

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Ignore function is a joke when imbeciles quote trolls

Well than I would ask the imbeciles to stop quoting them.

It's all part of the 'don't be an idiot' umbrella that I'm encouraging people to congregate under.

Will I Amnt · 14-06-2015 11:32AM

SlickRic wrote: »

Well than I would ask the imbeciles to stop quoting them.

Asking for people to stop quoting a certain poster is a roundabout way of telling that poster you have them on ignore and would probably earn you a yellow no?

Mickeroo · 14-06-2015 11:40AM

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Asking for people to stop quoting a certain poster is a roundabout way of telling that poster you have them on ignore and would probably earn you a yellow no?

We can't card PMs,

Pro. F · 14-06-2015 11:42AM

Could the mods address the post I made about the cross-thread baiting rule?

This thread is due to close tomorrow iirc, I hope it won't be closed before that issue has been discussed.

Mickeroo · 14-06-2015 11:57AM

Pro. F wrote: »

Could the mods address the post I made about the cross-thread baiting rule?

This thread is due to close tomorrow iirc, I hope it won't be closed before that issue has been discussed.

The rule already covers the scenario you put forward as far as I can see.

pmasterson95 · 14-06-2015 12:30PM

I still think the Brenda/Rodgers thing is harsh. I can mis-type on my phone if my fingers dont hit screen properly. Getting carded for omitting the "n" in Brendan would be harsh?

Pro. F · 14-06-2015 01:00PM

Mickeroo wrote: »

The rule already covers the scenario you put forward as far as I can see.

Yes the rule covers the original scenario that it was intended to cover. It also covers, and is being used to enforce, things which it was not intended to cover, because it is vaguely written and so is overly broad.

That was the whole point of my post. The posters requested a particular rule, but the mods introduced and overly broad rule and so have unilaterally added a new rule that has no right being in the charter.

padd b1975 · 14-06-2015 01:25PM

pmasterson95 wrote: »

I still think the Brenda/Rodgers thing is harsh. I can mis-type on my phone if my fingers dont hit screen properly. Getting carded for omitting the "n" in Brendan would be harsh?

Ninja edit and type your reason at the bottom.

Mickeroo · 14-06-2015 01:27PM

I don't see how making the rule only applicable to one specific type cross thread baiting would benefit the forum tbh.

Pro. F · 14-06-2015 01:35PM

Mickeroo wrote: »

I don't see how making the rule only applicable to one specific type cross thread baiting would benefit the forum tbh.

First of all, can you acknowledge what happened?

The posters requested a new rule to prevent a specific type of behaviour - quoting and responding antagonistically to a post in a thread other than the original, so that the original poster is denied the chance to defend themselves. The mods agreed to do that, but wrote a vaguely defined rule and started also prohibiting a different type of behaviour (making jokes about rival teams in your own superthread) on the back of it.

Do you agree that this is what happened?

Turtyturd · 14-06-2015 01:49PM

padd b1975 wrote: »

Ninja edit and type your reason at the bottom.

Or just type Rodgers. Majority of players/managers are referred to by their surname.

It's not really a difficult situation to avoid.

That_Guy · 14-06-2015 02:14PM

I'm only really in and out of the Bohs/Newcastle related threads. I won't specifically mention names here but surely, when you make outlandish statements, are called on it to engage in a proper debate and that poster(s) ignore it and returns a couple of days later to make more outlandish statements; can something not be done about it?

It's infuriating and blatant form of trolling imo.

EDIT: I don't see the problem with Man Yoo, Brenda Rodgers, Liverpoo etc etc

There's far worse posted in the humour thread in my opinion. It's childish sure but if you're offended by things like that then football probably isn't the sport for you.

dfx- · 14-06-2015 02:57PM

Pro. F wrote: »

First of all, can you acknowledge what happened?

The posters requested a new rule to prevent a specific type of behaviour - quoting and responding antagonistically to a post in a thread other than the original, so that the original poster is denied the chance to defend themselves. The mods agreed to do that, but wrote a vaguely defined rule and started also prohibiting a different type of behaviour (making jokes about rival teams in your own superthread) on the back of it.

Do you agree that this is what happened?

Cross thread baiting can take many forms, you don't need to quote a post to do it. You can just start talking about the rival thread or "I went to the United thread and they're so deluded on [such and such]". So it needs to be broader and I don't see enough disagreement with it.

Such specificity brings about rules lawyering which I would be very happy to see decrease.

Gbear · 14-06-2015 03:08PM

Just add all the common nicknames to the swear filter and have them print the full correctly spelled and capitalised name of the coach/team.

There we go. Problem solved.

Pro. F · 14-06-2015 03:08PM

dfx- wrote: »

Cross thread baiting can take many forms, you don't need to quote a post to do it. You can just start talking about the rival thread or "I went to the United thread and they're so deluded on [such and such]". So it needs to be broader and I don't see enough disagreement with it.

Such specificity brings about rules lawyering which I would be very happy to see decrease.

Okay, so that is a reasonable argument. The rule might need to be slightly broader than I first described. I'd be interested in discussing that.

However, you are still failing to address the initial point I made. Nobody requested a ban on jokes about rival teams from superthreads, but the mods decided to introduce such a ban unilaterally. The fact that they did this by misusing a rule that the posters had requested I think is a serious issue.

dfx- · 14-06-2015 03:26PM

To my knowledge and from what I'm seeing reported by posters, cross thread baiting in all forms is an issue for posters and not just the specific type you have picked out and outlined.

You're saying nobody requested it, but from what I've seen, that's what people want.

Pro. F · 14-06-2015 03:36PM

dfx- wrote: »

To my knowledge and from what I'm seeing reported by posters, cross thread baiting in all forms is an issue for posters and not just the specific type you have picked out and outlined.

I'm not denying that making jokes about rival teams in a superthread is an issue for some posters. If the posters wanted a ban on those jokes then they could have requested one and we could have discussed it before it was put in the charter.

Do you deny that the rule that was requested by posters and agreed upon by the mods, was not requested with the intention of banning jokes about rival teams* in superthreads? Like Will I Amnt says, that the rule he suggested was nothing like the one that was subsequently brought in.

* Just to be clear, I'm talking about jokes about rival teams, not jokes about rival team superthreads.

Beasty · 14-06-2015 04:03PM

Gbear wrote: »

Just add all the common nicknames to the swear filter and have them print the full correctly spelled and capitalised name of the coach/team.

There we go. Problem solved.

The swear filter covers the whole site - we cannot apply/impose SF rules elsewhere and poor Brenda Fricker would wonder what she had done wrong if we could/did

K-9 · 14-06-2015 04:14PM

dfx- wrote: »

Cross thread baiting can take many forms, you don't need to quote a post to do it. You can just start talking about the rival thread or "I went to the United thread and they're so deluded on [such and such]". So it needs to be broader and I don't see enough disagreement with it.

Such specificity brings about rules lawyering which I would be very happy to see decrease.

Have to agree on that, calling opinions in a rivals team deluded is stupidity, trolling and down right winding up others.

Nalz · 14-06-2015 10:25PM

K-9 wrote: »

Have to agree on that, calling opinions in a rivals team deluded is stupidity, trolling and down right winding up others.

Not all of the time.

Pro. F · 14-06-2015 10:30PM

From the OP this thread is due to be closed tomorrow. But I'm still waiting on responses to the question that I asked Mickeroo and Dfx about the cross-thread baiting issue (I think neither of them have been on the forum since I asked the question). So could the thread be left open a bit longer to discuss this further?

The Moldy Gowl · 14-06-2015 10:34PM

Pro. F wrote: »

From the OP this thread is due to be closed tomorrow. But I'm still waiting on responses to the question that I asked Mickeroo and Dfx about the cross-thread baiting issue (I think neither of them have been on the forum since I asked the question). So could the thread be left open a bit longer to discuss this further?

If someone is following you around threads just report it?

Pro. F · 14-06-2015 10:40PM

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

If someone is following you around threads just report it?

It's nothing like that.

GavRedKing · 15-06-2015 09:16AM

I'll close this thread later this evening, incase anyone has any other issues they want to raise

TheDoc · 15-06-2015 10:03AM

Al Capwned wrote: »

Spill.
Go on....

haha easy

It was a properly organised meeting that resulted in some pretty constructive discussions. Although thinking back on it, it wasn't with mods( although one was present) it was a meeting with the higher level of administration and Dav was leading discussions.

It was a very odd scenario but somewhat required as boards(like many other things) had become the epicentre of the community that was building at the time. (Although since, has migrated away to other platforms, mostly Facebook)

Cantona's Collars · 15-06-2015 01:15PM

One small thing before the thread is closed is the issue of some posters who are habitually reporting posts ad nauseum,I won't go dragging up the issues we had before with certain posters using other media to basically set up posters and report them on this site but it still seems that a certain few just live to report every little thing then thank each other's posts.

Dozen Wicked Words · 15-06-2015 01:27PM

zerks wrote: »

One small thing before the thread is closed is the issue of some posters who are habitually reporting posts ad nauseum,I won't go dragging up the issues we had before with certain posters using other media to basically set up posters and report them on this site but it still seems that a certain few just live to report every little thing then thank each other's posts.

How do you know who is reporting what?

Darkglasses · 15-06-2015 01:44PM

zerks wrote: »

One small thing before the thread is closed is the issue of some posters who are habitually reporting posts ad nauseum,I won't go dragging up the issues we had before with certain posters using other media to basically set up posters and report them on this site but it still seems that a certain few just live to report every little thing then thank each other's posts.

To be clear, how do you know who reports what?

15-06-2015 01:45PM

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

How do you know who is reporting what?

Yeah, it's a fairly big accusation to be throwing out there

Cantona's Collars · 15-06-2015 01:46PM

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

How do you know who is reporting what?

As I said,we had an issue before with a group of posters using Twitter to basically work out ways of getting other posters banned.A couple were permabanned but a few are still around and as soon as a poster gets a warning they are celebrating it.
I'm sure mods know those who are constantly hitting report & I reckon the majority of stuff is ignored at this stage as they know the craic.We all see fans of other clubs popping into other threads looking for reasons to be offended,that's how this whole issue of the word "slippy" suddenly becoming an offensive term.It's as if come posters are stalking others just to find an excuse to report them.

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