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Same Sex Marriage Referendum Mega Thread - MOD WARNING IN FIRST POST

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  • #8912
    sunshine and showers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭sunshine and showers


    K4t wrote: »
    When are the exit polls out?

    There aren't any.


  • #8913
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    oppenheimer1 wrote: »
    So it's all finally over thankfully. On my own story, I always was in the yes camp but my opinion was quite soft since the proposal didn't effect me or anyone I was close to. Over the course of the campaign I became increasingly disillusioned with the yes side. I found the way they presented their arguments preachy and condescending - particularly the videos of the grannies. While yes had the better arguments, their attitude of shouting down and dismissing the alternative viewpoint, rather than engage and convince the voter lost me. While I was never going to vote no, I had resolved to abstain. I felt I couldn't have my vote claimed by the yes campaign, up until two days ago.

    While I still feel the same about the way yes ran their campaign, I did have a rethink about my approach. I opted to vote and vote yes in the end. While it will gall me that yes will think that this is vindication of their approach, I felt the good in the proposal should outweigh my own personal disillusionment with them.

    So you ended up voting on the issue itself? Well done.


  • #8914
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    JamboMac wrote: »
    I didn't vote for the simple fact as this vote isn't as black and white as the yes voters seem to see it this is massively grey.

    May I ask what makes you draw this conclusion?


  • #8915
    Cold War Kid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Cold War Kid


    traprunner wrote: »
    Am I the only one that avoided all debates, YouTube ads and practically every newspaper article etc?
    I did apart from this thread.
    Boards is the voice of reason of the internet to be fair (IMO).


  • #8916
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    JamboMac wrote: »
    I didn't vote for the simple fact as this vote isn't as black and white as the yes voters seem to see it this is massively grey.

    For you to tell people voting no to take a long hard look at themselves is a disgrace this is a democracy no Stalinist Russia where you can vote whatever way you want as long as it's yes.

    The no voters came out with some tripe but the yes voters where as equally full of bull, saying that no means my country doesn't except me, the guilt trip these yes voters put people on was shambolic but if you say anything it's like your hitler.

    The yes vote has bigger repercussions then has simply been laid out, yes or no it doesn't bother me.

    But whether anybody voted yes or no they had that right and should be held accountable by some overly PC people.

    I'm curious what the repercussions of a Yes vote would be. Can you please elaborate?


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  • #8917
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    Cold War Kid wrote: »
    I did apart from this thread.
    Boards is the voice of reason of the internet to be fair (IMO).

    So I'm not the only weird one 😛


  • #8918
    frostyjacks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    Thank f**k it's all over


  • #8919
    homerjay2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    starting to look like alot of the no people just didnt bother going to vote then.


  • #8920
    joseph brand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,540 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    I'd like to thank the No campaign for putting forward some great reasons to vote Yes.

    Ronan Mullen
    David Quinn
    Breda O'Brien
    John Waters
    Petra Conroy
    Paddy Manning (disgusted by childrens charities)
    Keith Mills
    And last but not least, The Catholic Church. (the less said about that organisation and its 'affection' for children the better).

    Could they not find anyone who was in any way amiable? Perhaps they just thought that, according to the census, Ireland is still very religious. The church hates gays, therefore it's in the bag.


  • #8921
    smokingman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,795 ✭✭✭smokingman


    oppenheimer1 wrote: »
    So it's all finally over thankfully. On my own story, I always was in the yes camp but my opinion was quite soft since the proposal didn't effect me or anyone I was close to. Over the course of the campaign I became increasingly disillusioned with the yes side. I found the way they presented their arguments preachy and condescending - particularly the videos of the grannies. While yes had the better arguments, their attitude of shouting down and dismissing the alternative viewpoint, rather than engage and convince the voter lost me. While I was never going to vote no, I had resolved to abstain. I felt I couldn't have my vote claimed by the yes campaign, up until two days ago.

    While I still feel the same about the way yes ran their campaign, I did have a rethink about my approach. I opted to vote and vote yes in the end. While it will gall me that yes will think that this is vindication of their approach, I felt the good in the proposal should outweigh my own personal disillusionment with them.

    I have spent this campaign enjoying every human interaction that included chatting about it. Don't get me wrong, there are a few jebus freaks in my workplace, but they said they were voting no voluntarily before we started discussing it and, while we agreed to disagree, we didn't insult each other once.
    The only ones I have seen do this were from the iona institute/MAFMMattie McGrath.
    Maybe, being on the "yes" side, mine was a more celebratory mood of conversation compared to no voters, but there's no need to fall out.

    ...and this is the reason that, should this be a big "yes", no-one here should gloat. Keep it civil and cool and be happy this nation is a better place going into next year.

    ...and then chase the iona money to see who pays David Quinns salary.


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  • #8922
    mackerski
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭mackerski


    joseph brand wrote: »
    I'd like to thank the No campaign for putting forward some great reasons to vote Yes.

    While we're at it, wasn't it wonderful how few homophobes were active in the No campaign? Let's see more of that.


  • #8923
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    JamboMac wrote: »
    I didn't vote for the simple fact as this vote isn't as black and white as the yes voters seem to see it this is massively grey.

    For you to tell people voting no to take a long hard look at themselves is a disgrace this is a democracy no Stalinist Russia where you can vote whatever way you want as long as it's yes.

    The no voters came out with some tripe but the yes voters where as equally full of bull, saying that no means my country doesn't except me, the guilt trip these yes voters put people on was shambolic but if you say anything it's like your hitler.

    The yes vote has bigger repercussions then has simply been laid out, yes or no it doesn't bother me.

    But whether anybody voted yes or no they had that right and should be held accountable by some overly PC people.

    You didn't vote. You don't get a voice now.

    Iona's mask slipped for me when they lashed out at Catholic Yes voters


  • #8924
    K4t
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    sunshine and showers wrote: »
    There aren't any.
    Not even entrance polls?
    JamboMac wrote: »
    For you to tell people voting no to take a long hard look at themselves is a disgrace this is a democracy no Stalinist Russia where you can vote whatever way you want as long as it's yes.
    It's also an opinion, which he has a right to express in a democracy. Correct, this isn't Stalinist Russia.


  • #8925
    marmurr1916
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭marmurr1916


    Alt J wrote: »
    Go too bed you're drunk

    Go to bed. You have no sense of humour.


  • #8926
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,370 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Well done you, that'll show the gays.

    More like that will show the GAA I am sure Donal Òg will agree?

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #8927
    FluffyAngel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭FluffyAngel


    i was really surprised to see relgious statues in the polling station ..

    im not a man for a consirpacy theory,but i swear i felt it was put there just to remind people ..

    no way should it have being allowed


  • #8928
    JamboMac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭JamboMac


    traprunner wrote: »
    I'm curious what the repercussions of a Yes vote would be. Can you please elaborate?

    If it was as clearly black and white to me I would have easily voted yes but I could so many grey areas that I couldn't vote so didn't.

    If you think it was just clearly black and white fine. But for every action their is an equal or opposite reaction.

    Nothing is ever truly black and white.


  • #8929
    darced
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    This post has been deleted.


  • #8930
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,811 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    efb wrote: »
    You didn't vote. You don't get a voice now.

    Iona's mask slipped for me when they lashed out at Catholic Yes voters

    This is the truth, if you couldn't be bothered to vote you have decided to let others do your thinking for you and handed over any right to an opinion on the outcome.
    Whatever side people who made it to the polling booths were on they did themselves good service by making the effort and acting as responsible citizens, the rest are just fooling themselves, as if sitting at home or in work with principles ever decided a damn thing that ever mattered.


  • #8931
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,370 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    K4t wrote: »
    Not even entrance polls?

    It's also an opinion, which he has a right to express in a democracy. Correct, this isn't Stalinist Russia.

    Stalin had a bit of a Freddie mercury tache going on. I wonder did they sing "I want to break free" in the Siberian Gulag's?:)

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • #8932
    mrsoundie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭mrsoundie


    I think this referendum has killed thejournal.ie


  • #8933
    K4t
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    joseph brand wrote: »

    Could they not find anyone who was in any way amiable? .
    Oh they could, but they were all too afraid of being bullied and silenced. They are the silent victims in all of this. Also, they simply were not as brave and courageous as those you mentioned. I'll go back to the conspiracy theory forum.


  • #8934
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,946 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    I need an exit poll dammit. My nails can't take it.
    Did anyone else sorta try and figure out if everyone voting around them was a yes or a no just by the look of them?

    Try and remember how many "no" looking people you saw and how many "yes" looking people. It was pretty close to 50/50 for me.


  • #8935
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,636 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    JamboMac wrote: »
    I didn't vote for the simple fact as this vote isn't as black and white as the yes voters seem to see it this is massively grey.

    Voting in referendums can actually be quite straighforward for the don't knows or the undecided. If you vote No nothing changes.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • #8936
    BoJack Horseman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,247 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    mrsoundie wrote: »
    I think this referendum has killed thejournal.ie

    That is a hope too great.


  • #8937
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    JamboMac wrote: »
    If it was as clearly black and white to me I would have easily voted yes but I could so many grey areas that I couldn't vote so didn't.

    If you think it was just clearly black and white fine. But for every action their is an equal or opposite reaction.

    Nothing is ever truly black and white.

    If nothing is ever truly black and white you would never be able to vote


  • #8938
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    So apparently the government were campaigning for a yes vote because they are to use the electoral register to register everyone with Irish Water.

    Gotta love conspiracy theories.


  • #8939
    YurOK2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭YurOK2


    JamboMac wrote: »
    If it was as clearly black and white to me I would have easily voted yes but I could so many grey areas that I couldn't vote so didn't.

    If you think it was just clearly black and white fine. But for every action their is an equal or opposite reaction.

    Nothing is ever truly black and white.

    That doesn't answer the question.


  • #8940
    StewartGriffin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭StewartGriffin


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    This is the truth, if you couldn't be bothered to vote you have decided to let others do your thinking for you and handed over any right to an opinion on the outcome.

    What utter rubbish. Where did you find that rule?


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  • #8941
    JamboMac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭JamboMac


    traprunner wrote: »
    If nothing is ever truly black and white you would never be able to vote

    I haven't in 12 years of being able to.


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