Same Sex Marriage Referendum Mega Thread - MOD WARNING IN FIRST POST

traprunner · 22-05-2015 06:31PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

You're mistaking equality in the eyes of the law with people saying things are the same.

You read all that? :eek:

Adamantium · 22-05-2015 06:31PM

traprunner wrote: »

You read all that? :eek:

Did YOU read all of Article 41?

Alt J · 22-05-2015 06:35PM

Playing pool with my friend last nite, as 24 year olds we never have ever had interest in politics but feel passionate about equality. I really sense a postive vibe around my town today, come on let us the know the result

Frank Bullitt · 22-05-2015 06:37PM

Any idea of when they will get an idea of how this might go? Late night I would imagine?

traprunner · 22-05-2015 06:38PM

Adamantium wrote: »

Did YOU read all of Article 41?

Yeah it was slightly more on topic. I hire Doctor Jimbob to read all the tripe and filter it for me. Every now and again I have to check his work so I'm just surprised that even he got through that!

Ps Vote Yes

oppenheimer1 · 22-05-2015 06:38PM

Gintonious wrote: »

Any idea of when they will get an idea of how this might go? Late night I would imagine?

Tomorrow lunchtime, the trend should be apparent.

dark crystal · 22-05-2015 06:39PM

Ah lads, all those amazing people from this nation of ours travelling home from all corners of the world just to vote. I may have something in my eye

#hometovote

BoJack Horseman · 22-05-2015 06:40PM

Gintonious wrote: »

Any idea of when they will get an idea of how this might go? Late night I would imagine?

Tomorrow lunchtime.

RayM · 22-05-2015 06:42PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Overall, the place is a mess with posters...and I am not sure how effective any of them are.

They're such a fixture in Irish elections/referendums that they can give a campaign the illusion of 'legitimacy' and a load of really slick posters can make a small lobbying group look bigger and more professional than it might actually be. Youth Defence (operating under the name 'Coir') had some brilliantly eye-catching posters in the original Lisbon Treaty referendum (something about a €1.84 minimum wage if we voted Yes). Their claims might not have been true (an accusation that could equally be levelled at the 'Yes to Lisbon' side), but they were really effective.

diddley · 22-05-2015 06:43PM

I've a horrible feeling Crystal Swing voted no....

Bannasidhe · 22-05-2015 06:45PM

Is this the thread where you can get two sausages if you voted yes?

_Whimsical_ · 22-05-2015 06:46PM

barretsimpson wrote: »

I was asked by people earlier today which way I'm voting, and said I wanted to keep my vote to myself. One of them started to say I must be one of the cowardly No voters if I'm not saying which way I'm voting. I just walked on but heard jeering behind me. I don't know what to do, I think I'll just stay at home. At least then I can say I didn't vote at all, unless someone can get at me that way for not voting yes.

No go and vote! Your right to vote was hard won by other people, it is your right and your privilege. You do not owe anyone an explanation as to how you vote, if people jeer you or make presumptions it's because they are ignorant bullies, you don't deserve to have your life or your country determined by people like that, have your say whatever it is.
You aren't alone in feeling like this but none of us can cede our right to self determination to the kind of bullies willing to trample all over our democracy, imagine the mess the country will end up in if we all only listen to the loudest voices. I don't mean yes voters by that,i mean the kind of people willing to intimidate others by jeering them.

Duiske · 22-05-2015 06:53PM

Just back from voting and it was brilliant to see so many young people casting their vote. We have the by-election going on as well, but it sure as **** wasn't that that's bringing them out.

S.O · 22-05-2015 06:54PM

I won,t post a link to this person facebook page for possible legal reasons, he changed his profile pic recently to support a no vote, the guy in question was recently on strike as a Dublin bus driver, some of the comments in reply have been in you re voting no- next time you re on strike we mightn't support you striking , I find this to be bullsh'' and an attempt to blackmail someone into voting a certain way, whether the guy was or wasn't on strike, everyone is entitled to hold their own views independently without anyone trying to use blackmail.

Baggy Trousers · 22-05-2015 06:55PM

Got talking to a few people and I am uplifted. It will be a strong Yes vote. I think we will be pleasantly surprised.

hmmm · 22-05-2015 06:56PM

S.O wrote: »

some of the comments in reply have been in you re voting no- next time you re on strike we mightn't support you striking

I don't see anything wrong with that, pity about him. You won't get thanked and hugged for denying people what they think is their basic human right to marry the person they love.

AtomicHorror · 22-05-2015 06:58PM

Floppybits wrote: »

Here is the thing I voted no because the sacrament of marriage belongs to the church. The church unfortunately for what ever reason have something against the gay community But that does not give the government to hijack the sacrament of marriage. I think this referendum is lazy from the government.

This referendum is on civil marriage, not the sacrament. The sacrament remains exactly as it was.

Floppybits wrote: »

What I believe should have been done is that the state introduce stronger legislation around civil partnerships to give those people of all creeds gay or straight the same rights as those people who get married in the church.

Straight people already have those rights if they get married in a hotel by the state. Gay people do not and it would require a constitutional amendment to change that. Which is what you just voted no to.

S.O · 22-05-2015 07:03PM

hmmm wrote: »

I don't see anything wrong with that, pity about him. You won't get thanked and hugged for denying people what they think is their basic human right to marry the person they love.

Some issues are a issue of conscience for some like this and the abortion issue, if he said that he was voting no in an abortion referendum would it be ok for people to try and blackmail him ?

hmmm · 22-05-2015 07:03PM

S.O wrote: »

Some issues are a issue of conscience for some like this and the abortion issue, if he said that he was voting no in an abortion referendum would it be ok for people to try and blackmail him ?

Where's the blackmail? He wants support for something he feels strongly about, and so do many of his passengers for something they feel strongly about. As I say, pity about him - particularly when he's made his views known publicly.

aloyisious · 22-05-2015 07:04PM

sup_dude wrote: »

Yup! Could we have a referendum with zero campaigning and leave everything to the Referendum Commission? That'd be much better.

We wouldn't be having the "debate"

Ave Sodalis · 22-05-2015 07:05PM

S.O wrote: »

Some issues are a issue of conscience for some like this and the abortion issue, if he said that he was voting no in an abortion referendum would it be ok for people to try and blackmail him ?

S.O, do you just spend your whole life going around looking for things to complain about? Seriously, the only contribution you've made to these threads is to whine about how the No side are being bullied..

thegreatescape · 22-05-2015 07:06PM

I support any opinion which does not affect anyone's existence.

cherryghost · 22-05-2015 07:07PM

I seen Fionnuala Kenny is wearing a YES! badge in the rte photo while voting. I thought this wasn't allowed?

budgemook · 22-05-2015 07:07PM

AtomicHorror wrote: »

This referendum is on civil marriage, not the sacrament. The sacrament remains exactly as it was.

Straight people already have those rights if they get married in a hotel by the state. Gay people do not and it would require a constitutional amendment to change that. Which is what you just voted no to.

Reading the post you quoted is really saddening. It's so easy to get informed but people just don't and make really horrible decisions due to lack of understanding. The homophobic no vote - who cares, you'll always get that minority but the ill advised and ignorant vote - no need at all

fr336 · 22-05-2015 07:08PM

What do you think the final turnout figures will be?

Ave Sodalis · 22-05-2015 07:08PM

cherryghost wrote: »

I seen Fionnuala Kenny is wearing a YES! badge in the rte photo while voting. I thought this wasn't allowed?

Not normally, no. Is it a staged photo though?

cherryghost · 22-05-2015 07:11PM

sup_dude wrote: »

Not normally, no. Is it a staged photo though?

Can't imagine it's staged... however it says clearly 'in the vicinity of polling stations', so regardless of whether it was staged or not...

BoJack Horseman · 22-05-2015 07:12PM

fr336 wrote: »

What do you think the final turnout figures will be?

60% would be very good.

I think 55-ish% give or take.

_Whimsical_ · 22-05-2015 07:18PM

hmmm wrote: »

I don't see anything wrong with that, pity about him. You won't get thanked and hugged for denying people what they think is their basic human right to marry the person they love.

That's really not an ok attitude. We live in a democracy,that man's right to vote as he chooses has nothing to do with him striking for better working conditions for him and his colleagues. To say we'll support your strike if you support our political agenda is blackmail. It wasn't right when that attitude dominated Irish society in relation to religious mores 50 years ago and it's not right now when it's liberal mores. I believe in gay marriage,i want to live in a country where people can commit to who they choose, but I also want to live in a country that appreciates the democratic process and its basic tenants like the right to electoral self determination.

KevIRL · 22-05-2015 07:20PM

PP line on yes % vote now 62.5%.

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