Same Sex Marriage Referendum Mega Thread - MOD WARNING IN FIRST POST

CiDeRmAn · 22-05-2015 05:56PM

barretsimpson wrote: »

I was going to vote no, because I think marriage is an outdated concept, and I was going to vote yes for the 21 year old president. Might get some real change then. But given the abuse for not revealing how I intend to vote when I was out earlier, I think I'll stay at home. No doubt I'll get hassle for that in the future as well. I genuinely disturbed by that, that in a democratic country your vote, or not revealing your vote is going to be held against you. That's pretty disturbing.

That's a great pity, regardless of your intentions to vote one way or the other its your choice and of all the things this country was built upon, the right to exercise your vote to affect the destiny of it is one of the most important.
Regardless of Yes or No go and vote, its a private matter, anyone that matters will respect that privacy.
Please vote today.

magma69 · 22-05-2015 05:57PM

Don't know it this has been posted but here's a remix of some muck savage idiot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrPOOkJkXMk

Zubeneschamali · 22-05-2015 05:57PM

barretsimpson wrote: »

I genuinely disturbed by that, that in a democratic country your vote, or not revealing your vote is going to be held against you.

I would be very disturbed by it too, if you hadn't completely made it up.

barretsimpson · 22-05-2015 05:57PM

MightyMandarin wrote: »

My mam works in a care home on a busy road in Dublin, and people always throw rubbish in the front garden. For the past month, she's collected 17 No posters, but 0 Yes posters. Walk past any No poster in Dublin, and you'll see it tarnished with graffiti, I haven't seen one Yes poster tarnished. People in my college course were handing out those YES badges, I refused to take one, and immediately I was hounded by these c*nts because I just didn't want to wear one, even though I'm a yes voter. I've seen nothing but ridicule on social media for anybody who suggests anything which differs from the opinions of the YES campaign. The amount of hate and slander directed towards people just because of their beliefs on this issue has made me sick.

Carful now you're not allowed to say these things, remember.

seamus · 22-05-2015 05:58PM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Bzzzzz wrong again....

Marriage existed well before jeebus, or in fact, any religion we know today.

The RCC may have appropriated it as a 'sacrament' but they don't own it!

Christ.... You'd think this sh*t would be simple to understand!

You see, this is Ireland. Where children learned that everyone was an atheist pagan living in huts and burning their babies over bonfires until Jesus came along and invented everything. And then Saint Patrick came along and shooed the snakes away.

That's the condensed version, but it's basically a summary of my entire religious education in primary school.

oppenheimer1 · 22-05-2015 05:58PM

Stinicker wrote: »

If it is a Yes vote by a small majority then it will be challenged due to the huge amount of voting register irregularities taking place.

There should be clear changes to either prevent expatriates from voting or else grant our expats the Vote and this is something I am in favor of. With nearly 400,000 people left Ireland since 2008, they are our Citizens and our people and should enjoy the same right to vote. Majority of returning voters are returning to Vote Yes but they shouldn't have to fly home to cast their vote. They should have a say on the affairs of the country they were forced to abandon due to the treasonous economic policy of Fianna Fail and Fine Gael.

The margin of difference would have to be extremely slim like divorce in 95 for a challenge to be successful. The high turnout today indicates that the yes side won't need these votes anyway.

The current electoral register is still a mess despite attempts to tidy it up. In my opinion if citizens don't present themselves to polling stations twice in a row then they should be removed from the register. They would then have to reapply to get their vote back. This would remove the dead and the long time emigrants from the register. Overseas voters coming home would have to make a false declaration to get their vote and with a paper trail it would be easy for fraud to be detected.

Those that don't live here should not have a say IMO.

CiDeRmAn · 22-05-2015 06:00PM

MightyMandarin wrote: »

My mam works in a care home on a busy road in Dublin, and people always throw rubbish in the front garden. For the past month, she's collected 17 No posters, but 0 Yes posters. Walk past any No poster in Dublin, and you'll see it tarnished with graffiti, I haven't seen one Yes poster tarnished. People in my college course were handing out those YES badges, I refused to take one, and immediately I was hounded by these c*nts because I just didn't want to wear one, even though I'm a yes voter. I've seen nothing but ridicule on social media for anybody who suggests anything which differs from the opinions of the YES campaign. The amount of hate and slander directed towards people just because of their beliefs on this issue has made me sick.

Sounds pretty lousy.
As a Yes voter I didn't canvas or pressure anyone around to my way of view.
The only heated discussion was with a college who was badgering another co worker about how homosexuality is against nature and only then because he was bullying and harrasing her.
People beliefs are private, how we treat people in public is all that matters and I'm sure most people on both sides of the divide treat everyone equally, regardless of their perceived orientation or the private feelings about the matter.
I detest country and western music and have private feelings about fans of the stuff, but when I meet them I treat them with equal respect as those who like rock and roll, even if deep down I pity them.

barretsimpson · 22-05-2015 06:00PM

MightyMandarin wrote: »

My mam works in a care home on a busy road in Dublin, and people always throw rubbish in the front garden. For the past month, she's collected 17 No posters, but 0 Yes posters. Walk past any No poster in Dublin, and you'll see it tarnished with graffiti, I haven't seen one Yes poster tarnished. People in my college course were handing out those YES badges, I refused to take one, and immediately I was hounded by these c*nts because I just didn't want to wear one, even though I'm a yes voter. I've seen nothing but ridicule on social media for anybody who suggests anything which differs from the opinions of the YES campaign. The amount of hate and slander directed towards people just because of their beliefs on this issue has made me sick.

You're making this up, you are a homophobe, and we'll get you. Everyone else vote yes.

How's that everyone ? Do I get to be in the gang now ?

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oppenheimer1 · 22-05-2015 06:01PM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

That's a great pity, regardless of your intentions to vote one way or the other its your choice and of all the things this country was built upon, the right to exercise your vote to affect the destiny of it is one of the most important.
Regardless of Yes or No go and vote, its a private matter, anyone that matters will respect that privacy.
Please vote today.

This vote is merely a prelude to another abortion on (in terms of the strong opinions it draws out). If you think that this campaign was bad...

Ave Sodalis · 22-05-2015 06:01PM

MightyMandarin wrote: »

My mam works in a care home on a busy road in Dublin, and people always throw rubbish in the front garden. For the past month, she's collected 17 No posters, but 0 Yes posters. Walk past any No poster in Dublin, and you'll see it tarnished with graffiti, I haven't seen one Yes poster tarnished. People in my college course were handing out those YES badges, I refused to take one, and immediately I was hounded by these c*nts because I just didn't want to wear one, even though I'm a yes voter. I've seen nothing but ridicule on social media for anybody who suggests anything which differs from the opinions of the YES campaign. The amount of hate and slander directed towards people just because of their beliefs on this issue has made me sick.

You may not have seen graffiti on Yes posters.. I have. You may have been hounded by Yes voter... I've been hounded by No voters who tried to physically stop me and hurled abuse at me on more than one occassion for various reasons.

Maybe you're just seeing what you want to see?

MightyMandarin · 22-05-2015 06:01PM

barretsimpson wrote: »

You're making this up, you are a homophobe, and we'll get you. Everyone else vote yes.

How's that everyone ? Do I get to be in the gang now ?

Nah, you're not a real yes voter unless you wear one of those badges.

wakka12 · 22-05-2015 06:01PM

Ficheall wrote: »

Come on.. it'll be a landslide. Somewhere in the region of 72 to 28, at a complete guess.

If only..the win won't be anything that large. Id say it'll be 52-55% Yes best case scenario.

BoJack Horseman · 22-05-2015 06:02PM

barretsimpson wrote: »

How's that everyone ? Do I get to be in the gang now ?

Put a penis in your mouth & then get back to us.

Zubeneschamali · 22-05-2015 06:03PM

Knasher wrote: »

It will be high, but you are never going to beat the vote that enacted our constitution in the first place.

That was run the same day as a General Election, which would goose the numbers.

Join the EEC was 71%. Abortion/suicide/travel etc. was 68%. Divorce at 60-62%.

22-05-2015 06:03PM

Voted! Hoping to see Ireland have moved on from the stone age when the results are in tomorrow!

traprunner · 22-05-2015 06:03PM

Just passed that walkie bridge across the Liffey at CHQ and there are people handing out Yes stickers. Great to see them. Quite a few stopping to get one. I'm confident we will win this by quite a bit!!

the groutch · 22-05-2015 06:03PM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

The current electoral register is still a mess despite attempts to tidy it up. In my opinion if citizens don't present themselves to polling stations twice in a row then they should be removed from the register. They would then have to reapply to get their vote back. This would remove the dead and the long time emigrants from the register. Overseas voters coming home would have to make a false declaration to get their vote and with a paper trail it would be easy for fraud to be detected.

Those that don't live here should not have a say IMO.

the electoral register is all over the place.
I wouldn't want to try guess the number of people who got polling cards to their current AND old address, and in could have at least tried to vote twice.

Pov06 · 22-05-2015 06:05PM

52% to 55% for the win side

not 52%:55%...

MightyMandarin · 22-05-2015 06:06PM

sup_dude wrote: »

You may not have seen graffiti on Yes posters.. I have. You may have been hounded by Yes voter... I've been hounded by No voters who tried to physically stop me and hurled abuse at me on more than one occassion for various reasons.

Maybe you're just seeing what you want to see?

I voted yes. Surely if I had an agenda with my post, I would've talked about how horrible the No campaigners were. But the reality is, anyone who canvassed me or handed me a pamphlet was a nice person, who I just didn't agree with.

Trigg171 · 22-05-2015 06:06PM

Err I think he/she it'll be between 52-55%

Voted yes for myself anyways. I'd forgotten to change my address on the registrar so had to head out to my folks place to vote so hoping this will pass now.

molloyjh · 22-05-2015 06:06PM

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Nah, you're not a real yes voter unless you wear one of those badges.

I live in Dublin and haven't seen a single No poster vandalised. I walk through the city centre every day after commuting from a commuter town.

oppenheimer1 · 22-05-2015 06:06PM

222233 wrote: »

Voted! Hoping to see Ireland have moved on from the stone age when the results are in tomorrow!

You would hardly call Germany stone age and they don't have gay marriage. It's only legal in 19 countries.

I hate this nonsense of calling Ireland stone age. Yes in many respects it's quite conservative, but in many others its more progressive than many other nations.

mrkiscool2 · 22-05-2015 06:06PM

For glob's sake, both sides have been pretty sh1tty to be fair. I expected the No side to be worse though! Some people on the Yes side have completely disregarded the fact that if someone votes No or doesn't want to reveal what they voted that is their democratic right. I am so happy this is almost over. It's awful when people completely ignore the fundamental right of freedom and expression and speech for their cause, no matter how noble it is

I voted Yes, I would have voted Yes no matter what happened but the Yes side are not without their faults. The exact same can be for the No side. When the abortion issue rears it's head again I am going to leave the country for the month of campaigning and come back on voting day cause I can only imagine it is going to be an absolute bloodbath.

Not a NSA agent · 22-05-2015 06:07PM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Put a penis in your mouth & then get back to us.

Or a sausage.

Knasher wrote: »

76% on the first referendum.

I'd be very surprised if we got anywhere near that though. It will be high, but you are never going to beat the vote that enacted our constitution in the first place.

seamus wrote: »

If you're talking about constitutional amendments, then it was the referendum to join the EEC, which had 70.88%.

Referendums in general, the original referendum to adopt the constitution saw 75.84%.

I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility that this one would breach 70%. The last one on the Lisbon treaty hit 59%, and that was a "robust" debate, but people weren't nearly as passionate about it as they are with this one.

Anything about 70% would be doubtful. Easily see 60+ though.

22-05-2015 06:07PM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

You would hardly call Germany stone age and they don't have gay marriage. It's only legal in 19 countries.

I hate this nonsense of calling Ireland stone age. Yes in many respects it's quite conservative, but in many others its more progressive than many other nations.

that is me having an opinion on the marriage ref ...
and i say this because of the sad attempts of the no side to use children and the church as part of their campaign

traprunner · 22-05-2015 06:07PM

molloyjh wrote: »

I live in Dublin and haven't seen a single No poster vandalised. I walk through the city centre every day after commuting from a commuter town.

I saw one on mespil road at the maxol station but unless very close to the poster it was impossible to tell.

brianblaze · 22-05-2015 06:07PM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

You would hardly call Germany stone age and they don't have gay marriage. It's only legal in 19 countries.

I hate this nonsense of calling Ireland stone age. Yes in many respects it's quite conservative, but in many others its more progressive than many other nations.

Smoking ban... Plastic bag surcharge... Woo, look at us....

To discriminate against anyone for a reason as stupid as their colour or sexual orientation is stone age, IMO

oppenheimer1 · 22-05-2015 06:08PM

molloyjh wrote: »

I live in Dublin and haven't seen a single No poster vandalised. I walk through the city centre every day after commuting from a commuter town.

Not content with just vandalising posters, many were pulled down. All no posters were vandalised on the drumcondra road by the cat and cage.

mailforkev · 22-05-2015 06:08PM

Done. Possibly the best X I've ever written.

Not that busy at the polling station, I'd call it a solid trickle.

BoJack Horseman · 22-05-2015 06:08PM

Interestingly PP have the over/under for the 'Yes' vote at 61.5%

I would definitely take the 'over' on that.

I think 'Yes' will break 70%.

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