Same Sex Marriage Referendum Mega Thread - MOD WARNING IN FIRST POST

KeithWoodshead · 22-05-2015 05:44PM

pmasterson95 wrote: »

No I was on about IRL I just say voting yes to shut up the eejits. Here I simply be honest and laugh at the hypocrites. Keeps my real life nice and easy and keeps here amusing as they try to find new ways to badger. Look at poor barret who wont bother voting after how the yes lot treated him? Promoters of equality indeed.

So in essence you're voting yes and complaining about doing so

:D You realise you can vote whichever way you like

My name is URL · 22-05-2015 05:45PM

Just spent the last good while driving around and staking out a few of the nearby polling stations.

For every person under the age of 60 going in to vote there seemed to be 10 over that age.

I know that doesn't say much but I expected to see more younger people tbh, even though it's early in the day still.

Hope that those getting off work around this time don't say 'fcuk it' and just head home instead. Complacency could lose it for the yes side yet.

KeithWoodshead · 22-05-2015 05:45PM

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Do what I'm doing play along with them and ya get no hassle becos they dont know you said no.

Wow, how cunning!

BoJack Horseman · 22-05-2015 05:45PM

vicwatson wrote: »

When will we have first exit polls?

Not sure there will be any?

Penny Tration · 22-05-2015 05:46PM

barretsimpson wrote: »

I was going to vote no, because I think marriage is an outdated concept, and I was going to vote yes for the 21 year old president. Might get some real change then. But given the abuse for not revealing how I intend to vote when I was out earlier, I think I'll stay at home. No doubt I'll get hassle for that in the future as well. I genuinely disturbed by that, that in a democratic country your vote, or not revealing your vote is going to be held against you. That's pretty disturbing.

New account, 8 posts all about the referendum, most of them stating how scared he is of ridicule from the yes side.

Seems legit.

h2005 · 22-05-2015 05:47PM

vicwatson wrote: »

When will we have first exit polls?

Don't do them here.

barretsimpson · 22-05-2015 05:47PM

MightyMandarin wrote: »

I know, I'm in the young, college age-group too, and the total support for the YES Equality campaign would turn me off admitting to voting No, if I did. I suppose you could lie and say you voted Yes, no harm in that at all.

But you should definitely use your vote for whatever way you want. I know it's a cliche, but people did die for us to have democracy, so make the most of it.

Why should I have to lie for my own well being ?, is that what this "to die for democracy" is now about ?

Floppybits · 22-05-2015 05:47PM

KeithWoodshead wrote: »

If you don't want your views challenged why are you posting on a site that encourages debate?

How about giving a reasoned reason for your no vote ?

You're just looking to get offended. Pathetic

Here is the thing I voted no because the sacrament of marriage belongs to the church. The church unfortunately for what ever reason have something against the gay community But that does not give the government to hijack the sacrament of marriage. I think this referendum is lazy from the government.

What I believe should have been done is that the state introduce stronger legislation around civil partnerships to give those people of all creeds gay or straight the same rights as those people who get married in the church. For me this is where the inequality is.

Knasher · 22-05-2015 05:47PM

barretsimpson wrote: »

There is enormous pressure in my age group to dance about shouting vote yes, and if you don't do that you are to be ostracised from the group. It's a real eye opener to be honest.

Yeah. It must be very difficult having to put up with people who would reject you if they knew who you really are. To be looked down on for trying to enjoy the freedoms that the rest of us take for granted.

KeithWoodshead · 22-05-2015 05:49PM

Floppybits wrote: »

Here is the thing I voted no because the sacrament of marriage belongs to the church. The church unfortunately for what ever reason have something against the gay community But that does not give the government to hijack the sacrament of marriage. I think this referendum is lazy from the government.

What I believe should have been done is that the state introduce stronger legislation around civil partnerships to give those people of all creeds gay or straight the same rights as those people who get married in the church. For me this is where the inequality is.

No it does not. Marriage has nothing to do with religion unless you're religious. The RCC still won't wed two men, that won't change

BoJack Horseman · 22-05-2015 05:49PM

Floppybits wrote: »

because the sacrament of marriage belongs to the church.

Bzzzzz!

Wrong buddy.

MightyMandarin · 22-05-2015 05:49PM

barretsimpson wrote: »

Why should I have to lie for my own well being ?, is that what this "to die for democracy" is now about ?

Well you don't want to be ridiculed do you?

It's not acceptable that you have to do this, but not voting is the worst thing you can do in this situation imo. I know it's wrong what a lot of the YES Equality campaigners are doing, but nobody can stop it from happening. So make the best of a bad situation.

vicwatson · 22-05-2015 05:50PM

h2005 wrote: »

Don't do them here.

What? first I heard of it, really?

Agent Smith · 22-05-2015 05:50PM

Floppybits wrote: »

Here is the thing I voted no because the sacrament of marriage belongs to the church. The church unfortunately for what ever reason have something against the gay community But that does not give the government to hijack the sacrament of marriage. I think this referendum is lazy from the government.

What I believe should have been done is that the state introduce stronger legislation around civil partnerships to give those people of all creeds gay or straight the same rights as those people who get married in the church. For me this is where the inequality is.

you know that a marriage done in a church is still a civil marriage.

You have a ceremony, then afterwards the priest does the civil marriage bit.

KeithWoodshead · 22-05-2015 05:51PM

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Well you don't want to be ridiculed do you?

It's not acceptable that you have to do this, but not voting is the worst thing you can do in this situation imo. I know it's wrong what a lot of the YES Equality campaigners are doing, but nobody can stop it from happening. So make the best of a bad situation.

What exactly is wrong? Could you point to specific things now? Because i can point out multiple things the No side has done wrong

MightyMandarin · 22-05-2015 05:51PM

Knasher wrote: »

Yeah. It must be very difficult having to put up with people who would reject you if they knew who you really are. To be looked down on for trying to enjoy the freedoms that the rest of us take for granted.

Well if his friends would reject him simply because of his beliefs in on gay marriage, then he's got some sh*tty friends.

BoJack Horseman · 22-05-2015 05:51PM

vicwatson wrote: »

What? first I heard of it.

Exit polls cost money....

Spending money is like kryptonite to media organisations here.

Floppybits · 22-05-2015 05:51PM

KeithWoodshead wrote: »

No it does not. Marriage has nothing to do with religion unless you're religious. The RCC still won't wed two men, that won't change

It is pal. It is one if the sacraments along with christening, communion. Confirmation And a few others.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacraments_of_the_Catholic_Church

Paramite Pie · 22-05-2015 05:52PM

Stinicker wrote: »

It will be a very small turnout and Rural Ireland will vote No and I see the No sneaking it by around 2% 52% - 48%, Donegal will be 70% No and followed strongly by Kerry South which will poll strongly No.

Rural Ireland has higher birthrates than urban Ireland, thus a very young population living in other counties. I assume many are going back to vote. I came down to Galway (county) from Dub to vote Yes.:)

barretsimpson wrote: »

I was thinking of voting no, is it safe to do so though, will there be any personal repercussions if I do in the future and people suspect which way I might have voted ? I haven't voted much . . just asking

No, it'd be illegal (and ludicris!) to persecute someone for voting No. It'd be borderline entrapment to offer the option and then persecute those who take it. You've Legal & Constitutional protection. Now go vote.

Stinicker wrote: »

Just got back in from voting and feel I did the right thing, the abolsute disgraceful bullyboy tactics I witnessed over the last week drove me from being a Yes to being a No voter.

I voted for the Referendum issue itself. Sounds like you voted for a popularity contest. If you didn't believe in the Yes that strongly to see past the loud bullyboys & think of the average gay person behind the scenes then that's a shame.:o
Can I ask you why you didn't just spoil the vote? If your going the protest route I imagine that'd be the best way to go.

Anita Blow · 22-05-2015 05:52PM

Floppybits wrote: »

Here is the thing I voted no because the sacrament of marriage belongs to the church. The church unfortunately for what ever reason have something against the gay community But that does not give the government to hijack the sacrament of marriage. I think this referendum is lazy from the government.

What I believe should have been done is that the state introduce stronger legislation around civil partnerships to give those people of all creeds gay or straight the same rights as those people who get married in the church. For me this is where the inequality is.

The constitution does not allow this. Existing CP is the most the government can do without breaching their constitutional duty to defend marriage, as per the Attorney General.

Importantly, this referendum is not on the sacrament (which is of matrimony, not marriage), but rather civil marriage. If it were a christian marriage enshrined in our constitution then muslims, jews, atheists etc would not be able to marry in this country.

Mr. CooL ICE · 22-05-2015 05:52PM

Floppybits wrote: »

It is pal. It is one if the sacraments along with christening, communion. Confirmation And a few others.

Marriage existed before christianity

KeithWoodshead · 22-05-2015 05:52PM

Floppybits wrote: »

It is pal. It is one if the sacraments along with christening, communion. Confirmation And a few others.

Yes because muslims, jews etc all get married too and we know they just love communion wafer.:rolleyes:

Penny Tration · 22-05-2015 05:53PM

Floppybits wrote: »

It is pal. It is one if the sacraments along with christening, communion. Confirmation And a few others.

That's the sacrament of marriage.

The sacrament of marriage isn't a legal marriage. It's a spiritual ceremony.

The part that makes it legal is when the priest does the CIVIL marriage part.

That's the only part gay people are asking for - civil marriage. Not spiritual marriage

wakka12 · 22-05-2015 05:53PM

podgemonster wrote: »

Most polling stations in Dublin in around the 40% turnout. That's before after work evening rush! That's pretty awesome!

Helps that all students in both college and school are off for summer now!

BoJack Horseman · 22-05-2015 05:54PM

Floppybits wrote: »

It is pal. It is one if the sacraments along with christening, communion. Confirmation And a few others.

Bzzzzz wrong again....

Marriage existed well before jeebus, or in fact, any religion we know today.

The RCC may have appropriated it as a 'sacrament' but they don't own it!

Christ.... You'd think this sh*t would be simple to understand..... But apparently not!

wakka12 · 22-05-2015 05:55PM

seamus wrote: »

If you're talking about constitutional amendments, then it was the referendum to join the EEC, which had 70.88%.

Referendums in general, the original referendum to adopt the constitution saw 75.84%.

I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility that this one would breach 70%. The last one on the Lisbon treaty hit 59%, and that was a "robust" debate, but people weren't nearly as passionate about it as they are with this one.

I really like it, its really interesting having a whole country debating social issues with such passion.

Ficheall · 22-05-2015 05:55PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Complacency could lose it for the yes side yet.

Come on.. it'll be a landslide. Somewhere in the region of 72 to 28, at a complete guess.

Tasden · 22-05-2015 05:55PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Just spent the last good while driving around and staking out a few of the nearby polling stations.

For every person under the age of 60 going in to vote there seemed to be 10 over that age.

I know that doesn't say much but I expected to see more younger people tbh, even though it's early in the day still.

Hope that those getting off work around this time don't say 'fcuk it' and just head home instead. Complacency could lose it for the yes side yet.

I know a lot of people heading in together after they're all finished work and then heading to the pub together after. I was waiting for my little one to get home from school so she could be a part of it all. Plenty people planning their day around it!

MightyMandarin · 22-05-2015 05:56PM

KeithWoodshead wrote: »

What exactly is wrong? Could you point to specific things now? Because i can point out multiple things the No side has done wrong

My mam works in a care home on a busy road in Dublin, and people always throw rubbish in the front garden. For the past month, she's collected 17 No posters, but 0 Yes posters. Walk past any No poster in Dublin, and you'll see it tarnished with graffiti, I haven't seen one Yes poster tarnished. People in my college course were handing out those YES badges, I refused to take one, and immediately I was hounded by these c*nts because I just didn't want to wear one, even though I'm a yes voter. I've seen nothing but ridicule on social media for anybody who suggests anything which differs from the opinions of the YES campaign. The amount of hate and slander directed towards people just because of their beliefs on this issue has made me sick.

barretsimpson · 22-05-2015 05:56PM

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Well you don't want to be ridiculed do you?

It's not acceptable that you have to do this, but not voting is the worst thing you can do in this situation imo. I know it's wrong what a lot of the YES Equality campaigners are doing, but nobody can stop it from happening. So make the best of a bad situation.

I'm not going to lie, that's giving in to tyranny. I'll take the consequences, that's doesn't mean I have to say its all grand. That's not the type of place I want to live. It's actually been a useful exercise to see what it brings out in people I thought I knew. Every cloud has a silver lining and all that

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Well if his friends would reject him simply because of his beliefs in on gay marriage, then he's got some sh*tty friends.

I wouldn't call them ****ty, though I'm pretty disturbed by their attitude to me not wanting to reveal my voting intention. Round here friend choices are limited, so you take what you get.

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