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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,434 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Sorry, don't want to take this thread off topic

    Did you not read the thread?!?

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭whatismyname


    endacl wrote: »
    Did you not read the thread?!?

    :D

    My answer is irrelevant. I'm talking about me not other people :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,434 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    I'd prefer the people who are personal messaging me to tell me they voted would just stick it up on FB tbh - my fecking head is in meltdown from the notification dings.



    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,744 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    It's not getting people to vote though, they have already cast their vote, this function allows them to broadcast that fact to the world!

    But it can encourage others to get out there and vote too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭Vivisectus


    you cant just question the mindset of people, just because they dont agree with something you believe in.

    Sure you can! It is called "debate". it is where you support your opinion with rational arguments, and try to find out what the rational arguments underpinning another person's belief are, and testing them to see if you feel they old water.

    If this confuses you: it is what a lot of no-voters call "silencing" or "Intolerant behavior".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭CaveCanem


    traprunner wrote: »
    Don't worry about it because it fits will in with the non-referendum conversation on this thread such as unicorns, surrogacy, traditional marriage where it was good to rape the wife, polygamy, adoption, consummation, baby alpacas and the red herrings.

    I fairness with the surrogacy issue it was 'that's false' when it was shown not to be false it and the referendum commission said it was actually yet to be decided it was 'that's irrelevant'.

    When the concerns grew, voters became more undecided Enda Kenny said 'there will be no commercial surrogacy'. That's a classic political answer, total evasion. Is 'there will be...' a prediction or a promise? He can claim either after the referendum; 'oh I meant I thought there wasn't enough demand here'.

    Then they said there will be no legislation until after the election, thereby trying to separate the results of the referendum with what they may already know is inevitable.

    As I said before, I will take him at his word and I am asking people to vote yes despite this. However, it could turn out that the courts determine that while the state does not have to facilitate surrogacy, it cannot ban it or it has to ban IVF etc. which would not be fair on anyone.

    If this happens, then while a yes result is to be celebrated, it will be a final blow to any kind of faith in democratic principles and the impartiality of the Referendum Commission who phrased the reply as 'it has yet to be decided' rather than the more honest 'we don't know'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭CaveCanem


    traprunner wrote: »
    Don't worry about it because it fits will in with the non-referendum conversation on this thread such as unicorns, surrogacy, traditional marriage where it was good to rape the wife, polygamy, adoption, consummation, baby alpacas and the red herrings.

    In fairness with the surrogacy issue it was 'that's false' when it was shown not to be false it and the referendum commission said it was actually yet to be decided it was 'that's irrelevant'.

    When the concerns grew, voters became more undecided Enda Kenny said 'there will be no commercial surrogacy'. That's a classic political answer, total evasion. Is 'there will be...' a prediction or a promise? He can claim either after the referendum; 'oh I meant I thought there wasn't enough demand here'.

    Then they said there will be no legislation until after the election, thereby trying to separate the results of the referendum with what they may already know is inevitable.

    As I said before, I will take him at his word and I am asking people to vote yes despite this. However, it could turn out that the courts determine that while the state does not have to facilitate surrogacy, it cannot ban it or it has to ban IVF etc. which would not be fair on anyone.

    If this happens, then while a yes result is to be celebrated, it will be a final blow to any kind of faith in democratic principles and the impartiality of the Referendum Commission who phrased the reply as 'it has yet to be decided' rather than the more honest 'we don't know'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,105 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    On the FB thing, I really don’t see why anybody would want to broadcast that they voted. The whole process is based on anonymity, and whilst of course the FB thing doesn't give away which way you voted, FB is not doing it for the good of their health. They are collecting data so that the votes can be broken down by age category etc.

    Why someone would give up such information freely is beyond me. It isn't the same as an exit poll etc, as FB already have all your other info, age, location, interests etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,897 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Kiwi in IE wrote: »
    Polling booth in our rural area was very busy. Lots of people seemed happy and excitable and the atmosphere was almost festive. No voters are not happy, excitable and festive. Feeling very positive!

    You can say that again...some/most of them come across a the most miserable, repressed bitter individuals...and that's only the ones that come on here :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    CaveCanem wrote: »
    I fairness with the surrogacy issue it was 'that's false' when it was shown not to be false it and the referendum commission said it was actually yet to be decided it was 'that's irrelevant'.

    When the concerns grew, voters became more undecided Enda Kenny said 'there will be no commercial surrogacy'. That's a classic political answer, total evasion. Is 'there will be...' a prediction or a promise? He can claim either after the referendum; 'oh I meant I thought there wasn't enough demand here'.

    Then they said there will be no legislation until after the election, thereby trying to separate the results of the referendum with what they may already know is inevitable.

    As I said before, I will take him at his word and I am asking people to vote yes despite this. However, it could turn out that the courts determine that while the state does not have to facilitate surrogacy, it cannot ban it or it has to ban IVF etc. which would not be fair on anyone.

    If this happens, then while a yes result is to be celebrated, it will be a final blow to any kind of faith in democratic principles and the impartiality of the Referendum Commission who phrased the reply as 'it has yet to be decided' rather than the more honest 'we don't know'.

    'Yet to be decided' implies that they have come up with a number of options. I would certainly hope that they have options seeing that a number of members of the government said they are currently working on legislation.

    'We don't know' implies that they are clueless. This shouldn't be the case if they are working on legislation.

    So basically it comes down to believing that they are working on it or they aren't. I'd be inclined to believe them as it is an issue that will only get bigger regardless of the outcome of this referendum.

    The issue is there already and will be there tomorrow regardless the result so it is separate to the referendum.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,639 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Is there an exit poll in a referendum?
    And when are we likely to see the first indication of which way the vote is going?

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭Anita Blow


    Serious butterflies reading the past couple pages of this thread from this morning. Cautiously optimistic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭mickstupp


    Woo! Voted. Rarely have I felt good after voting, but I did today. I will not feel good if the majority vote no.

    I will be very glad to see the back of all the campaign nonsense though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Hermy wrote: »
    Is there an exit poll in a referendum?
    And when are we likely to see the first indication of which way the vote is going?
    I don't believe that either exit polls or counts can be provided under after the polls close, as they can influence the vote. Afaik all they can say is whether turnout has been strong, slow, quiet, etc.

    Any news or current affairs programmes from 10pm onwards will likely provide exit polls.

    Though you might find some early reports on twitter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,460 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    Imagine how silly No voters are going to look in 30 years.

    I think they look silly now, everyone will think it in a few decades


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    Hermy wrote: »
    Is there an exit poll in a referendum?
    And when are we likely to see the first indication of which way the vote is going?

    Paddy Power have lengthened the odds for a "No" from 4/1 last night to 9/1 as of now.

    Looks like it will be a fairly emphatic "Yes".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Whats with all the NO advertisements on every ****ing youtube video? They're so patronising it hurts, did anyone see that awful one with the older lady with a white grey/fringe and wearing a pink cardigan? What a bitch. She was like talking about how the YES side are bullies basically, and trying to relate to people on the fence. She was like and look what happened to that poor lovely bakery up north who did nothing wrong, they were just against a political campaign and now their very livelihoods are at stake! I myself am even afraid to say right now that marriage should be between a man and a woman for fear Ill be eaten alive!

    Such BS. Give me a break


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,639 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    seamus wrote: »
    Any news or current affairs programmes from 10pm onwards will likely provide exit polls.

    Wasn't sure if exit polls only apply in elections.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,746 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Whats with all the NO advertisements on every ****ing youtube video?

    Keep watching them, Iona loses a little bit of money every time you do!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Bridge93


    Scrolling through Facebook and have seen over 90 people share that referendum post. Not one has voted No.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,746 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Bridge93 wrote: »
    Scrolling through Facebook and have seen over 90 people share that referendum post. Not one has voted No.

    That's just the demographics of Facebook. No voters will be much quieter on social media, and the internet in general, but they'll still be there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,106 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    What turnout are we predicting? I'm saying 70%


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    Its a shame I couldn't come home and vote Yes ... but I feel optimistic about the outcome..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Whats with all the NO advertisements on every ****ing youtube video? They're so patronising it hurts, did anyone see that awful one with the older lady with a white grey/fringe and wearing a pink cardigan? What a bitch. She was like talking about how the YES side are bullies basically, and trying to relate to people on the fence. She was like and look what happened to that poor lovely bakery up north who did nothing wrong, they were just against a political campaign and now their very livelihoods are at stake! I myself am even afraid to say right now that marriage should be between a man and a woman for fear Ill be eaten alive!

    Such BS. Give me a break

    I like this post, like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭MathDebater


    Irish Halo wrote: »
    I have just seen the #HomeToVote hashtag, look I'm all for the Yes vote but is this not massive, public, electoral fraud?

    The information here is confusing about if you even get the 18 months:

    1) You must also have been ordinarily resident in the State on 1 September in the year before the Register comes into force.

    2) If you leave your address but you plan to return there within 18 months, you can continue to be registered there, as long you do not register at any other.

    3) If you are an Irish citizen living abroad you cannot be entered on the register of electors.

    1 says OK as long as you were resident in Ireland on a certain date
    2 says you get to stay registered at an address for 18 months BUT you must be planning to return by the end of that date
    3 states categorically if you're abroad no vote

    If everyone on that hashtag is a recent emigrant more power to you but really? All of them only left in the last 18 months?

    I said it last night and I'll say it again - lot of people committing electoral fraud.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭timetogo


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Whats with all the NO advertisements on every ****ing youtube video?

    Yep. I see these ads a couple of times a day. Make sure the ad plays all the way through so Google get their money for the play.
    You can't watch them though, I watched a couple and was arguing with the screen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,434 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    timetogo wrote: »
    Yep. I see these ads a couple of times a day. Make sure the ad plays all the way through so Google get their money for the play.
    You can't watch them though, I watched a couple and was arguing with the screen.

    It'll be nice tomorrow on YouTube. No more self-loathing Mr Potatohead...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭whatismyname


    Bridge93 wrote: »
    Scrolling through Facebook and have seen over 90 people share that referendum post. Not one has voted No.

    On my facebook, it only says that they voted, not how they voted?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Fat Christy


    It needs to be 4 o clock. I need to get back to the shticks to vote. Come on Longford, vote yes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    I said it last night and I'll say it again - lot of people committing electoral fraud.

    Report it.


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