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Vivisectus · 22-05-2015 10:28AM

RobertKK wrote: »

Newstalk got a lot of complaints to it for the interview, it would have been fine if both sides got an aggressive tone from Chris Donoghue when he interviewed them on the referendum.
Lots of complaints around over the interview, Chris is so easy to read, that it makes balanced impossible to him.

You seem to miss the point entirely. Emotive and manipulative irrelevancies is what Quinn is famous for. His Ionians got a ridiculous amount of media attention for such a small and unrepresentative organisation.

It is a bit like receiving noise complaints from the airport that you live next door to. It just boggles the mind.

endacl · 22-05-2015 10:31AM

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

As a matter of interest why isnt there lots of pictures on facebook and twitter of NO voters after happily and proudly voting NO?

Because people only voted yes because it's cool to vote yes? This 'gay' thing is just a fad?

I'd say, based on personal anecdotal experience only, that yes voters have an understanding that they are participating in something really important. Important stuff goes on Facebook.

I don't do Facebook, btw. Not cool enough.

Merry Prankster · 22-05-2015 10:32AM

MrWalsh wrote: »

I dunno, I can post you a couple?

Cheers MrWalsh. Have PM'd you.

Irish Halo · 22-05-2015 10:32AM

Merry Prankster wrote: »

Surely both sides will even themselves out?

Optimistic, I'd like to think though of us who left are the intelligent ones (Yes voters

).

Also found legislation I think you only get 18 months if you plan on returning within that time see Electoral Act, 1963 Sec5/4/a:
a person shall be deemed not to have given up ordinary residence if he intends to resume residence within eighteen months after giving it up.

So even if you emigrated within the last 18 month but do not plan on returning before that time is up you are not eligible to vote.

Knasher · 22-05-2015 10:32AM

Irish Halo wrote: »

1) You must also have been ordinarily resident in the State on 1 September in the year before the Register comes into force.

I think ordinarily resident might mean the same thing it means for tax purposes. In which case you only lose your "ordinarily resident" status if you have been non resident for 3 continuous tax years.

But it is an interesting question.

endacl · 22-05-2015 10:33AM

Vivisectus wrote: »

You seem to miss the point entirely. Emotive and manipulative irrelevancies is what Quinn is famous for. His Ionians got a ridiculous amount of media attention for such a small and unrepresentative organisation.

It is a bit like receiving noise complaints from the airport that you live next door to. It just boggles the mind.

Well. We just need to focus on separation of church and education now, and reproductive rights, and Quinn et al can get on with living their private lives according to their consciences, and leave the rest of us to do the same.

looking_around · 22-05-2015 10:34AM

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

As a matter of interest why isnt there lots of pictures on facebook and twitter of NO voters after happily and proudly voting NO?

because they know full well it's something to be proud about.

Brancott · 22-05-2015 10:35AM

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

As a matter of interest why isnt there lots of pictures on facebook and twitter of NO voters after happily and proudly voting NO?

Too busy posting up fictitious Santy letters

Baggy Trousers · 22-05-2015 10:35AM

I am nervous about this vote. I don't think I have even been this nervous about a vote. I just think it's so important.

A No vote will completely disillusion me about the mindset of Irish people. I think we have enough "baggage" already

endacl · 22-05-2015 10:36AM

Baggy Trousers wrote: »

I am nervous about this vote. I don't think I have even been this nervous about a vote. I just think it's so important.

A No vote will completely disillusion me about the mindset of Irish people. I think we have enough "baggage" already

Ah, you'll be grand. Your trousers can take it.

whatismyname · 22-05-2015 10:37AM

https://twitter.com/NaomiOhReally/status/601659164025331713

Also (although not sure how he can know this true for everyone):

https://twitter.com/diylan/status/601678669359222784

Merry Prankster · 22-05-2015 10:41AM

whatismyname wrote: »

https://twitter.com/NaomiOhReally/status/601659164025331713

Care Bears 1 - 0 Dementors

whatismyname · 22-05-2015 10:41AM

Irish Halo wrote: »

I have just seen the #HomeToVote hashtag, look I'm all for the Yes vote but is this not massive, public, electoral fraud?

The information here is confusing about if you even get the 18 months:

1) You must also have been ordinarily resident in the State on 1 September in the year before the Register comes into force.

2) If you leave your address but you plan to return there within 18 months, you can continue to be registered there, as long you do not register at any other.

3) If you are an Irish citizen living abroad you cannot be entered on the register of electors.

1 says OK as long as you were resident in Ireland on a certain date
2 says you get to stay registered at an address for 18 months BUT you must be planning to return by the end of that date
3 states categorically if you're abroad no vote

If everyone on that hashtag is a recent emigrant more power to you but really? All of them only left in the last 18 months?

I don't really get it, either.

I no longer live in Ireland (UK based past few years) and technically I think am still on the electoral register in Ireland, so could probably get away with going back and voting in the referendum (may be wrong on that, not sure). But it just wouldn't occur to me, I will almost certainly never return to Ireland to live again, and so it's not really anything to do with me.

Kiwi in IE · 22-05-2015 10:46AM

Polling booth in our rural area was very busy. Lots of people seemed happy and excitable and the atmosphere was almost festive. No voters are not happy, excitable and festive. Feeling very positive!

Ash.J.Williams · 22-05-2015 10:46AM

i've just woken up from a coma, and i am seeing the queues of people coming back to vote and i'm thinking whatever it is they are voting for i'm voting with them. This is unprecedented, this is historic no doubt about it.

RollieFingers · 22-05-2015 10:51AM

Regardless of what way you vote, does anyone else think that facebook "I'm a voter" function is a bit cringey? Some people seem to be voting just to broadcast it all over social media!

endacl · 22-05-2015 10:51AM

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

Polling booth in our rural area was very busy. Lots of people seemed happy and excitable and the atmosphere was almost festive. No voters are not happy, excitable and festive. Feeling very positive!

Enniscorthy is a colourful town these days. I remember when almost all the buildings were the same gloomy shade of grey.

The times they certainly are a changin'

whatismyname · 22-05-2015 10:51AM

RollieFingers wrote: »

Regardless of what way you vote, does anyone else think that facebook "I'm a voter" function is a bit cringey? Some people seem to be voting just to broadcast it all over social media!

Yes. We had that recently in the UK general election, and almost everyone I know hit it, had a newsfeed full of 'yay, everyone's voting' and thought it was quite stupid indeed.

endacl · 22-05-2015 10:52AM

Won't somebody please think of the ccccchhhhhhhiiiiiilllllddddrrreeeeeeeennnnnnn!!!!!!

:P

endacl · 22-05-2015 10:54AM

RollieFingers wrote: »

Regardless of what way you vote, does anyone else think that facebook "I'm a voter" function is a bit cringey? Some people seem to be voting just to broadcast it all over social media!

If it promotes a interest in participation in the democratic process?

Good thing.

homerjay2005 · 22-05-2015 10:55AM

Baggy Trousers wrote: »

I am nervous about this vote. I don't think I have even been this nervous about a vote. I just think it's so important.

A No vote will completely disillusion me about the mindset of Irish people. I think we have enough "baggage" already

well its already clear that ~40% of people will vote no and theres going to be 1000s of people who dont agree with it, but at the same time dont want to deny anybody the chance, so just wont vote.

i would say that if every person in the country voted, it wouldnt pass but the intensive focus on the yes side especially in young people and the mode for "change" thats currently in this country, it will pass.

you cant just question the mindset of people, just because they dont agree with something you believe in.

personally i hope it passes, but i wish people in the Yes stopped saying there is something wrong with people who are opposed to it.

whatismyname · 22-05-2015 10:55AM

endacl wrote: »

If it promotes a interest in participation in the democratic process?

Good thing.

I'd say it can be a good thing in some ways, while still being incredibly cringy.

HalloweenJack · 22-05-2015 10:57AM

RollieFingers wrote: »

Regardless of what way you vote, does anyone else think that facebook "I'm a voter" function is a bit cringey? Some people seem to be voting just to broadcast it all over social media!

Well good, then. If it's a way to get people voting (as retarded as it may be), then it's something to be happy about, regardless of how they vote.

endacl · 22-05-2015 10:58AM

whatismyname wrote: »

I'd say it can be a good thing in some ways, while still being incredibly cringy.

But, Facebook = cringey?

Non?

whatismyname · 22-05-2015 10:59AM

endacl wrote: »

But, Facebook = cringey?

Non?

Sorry, don't want to take this thread off topic, especially not today, so not gonna get into a non-referendum conversation on facebook..

KeithWoodshead · 22-05-2015 10:59AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

you cant just question the mindset of people, just because they dont agree with something you believe in.

Yes you can. Civil rights, womens rights etc..... all came about from doing exactly that

RollieFingers · 22-05-2015 10:59AM

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Well good, then. If it's a way to get people voting (as retarded as it may be), then it's something to be happy about, regardless of how they vote.

It's not getting people to vote though, they have already cast their vote, this function allows them to broadcast that fact to the world!

Merry Prankster · 22-05-2015 10:59AM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

You cant just question the mindset of people, just because they dont agree with something you believe in.
Personally i hope it passes, but i wish people in the Yes stopped saying there is something wrong with people who are opposed to it.

Of course you can question the mindset. Would you feel the same if were a vote to lower the age of consent or to force black people to use different buses from the rest of us?

Bannasidhe · 22-05-2015 11:00AM

endacl wrote: »

But, Facebook = cringey?

Non?

I'd prefer the people who are personal messaging me to tell me they voted would just stick it up on FB tbh - my fecking head is in meltdown from the notification dings.

traprunner · 22-05-2015 11:01AM

whatismyname wrote: »

Sorry, don't want to take this thread off topic, especially not today, so not gonna get into a non-referendum conversation on facebook..

Don't worry about it because it fits will in with the non-referendum conversation on this thread such as unicorns, surrogacy, traditional marriage where it was good to rape the wife, polygamy, adoption, consummation, baby alpacas and the red herrings.

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